Geez that's depressing, Dappled. It's not THAT bad to be a woman at all! I'm outspoken, opinionated, forward, bold & blunt, but I have had plenty of people interested over the years. Many more than I have actually taken up on the offer. I'm not saying this to brag, but I mean... to be honest, thinking that men ONLY want weak-willed, quiet women is pretty misogynistic. I hope it doesn't feel like an attack when I say that, but really the world is far less bleak. There are a myriad different kinds of men (and women) who find women who freely state their opinions quite attractive and interesting.
Ahh no, of course not, but it does seem harder for women to be taken seriously. I mean, even in today's supposedly enlightened society, how many female philosophers can any of us name?
Interesting side note, I just asked my roommates and they came up with Nancy Cartwright, Judy Butler, and Ayn Rand. I was impressed! (even though they're all much more modern)
I'm impressed too, actually. And I have to confess that I thought Nancy Cartwright was the voice of Bart Simpson. I did know who Judith Butler and Ayn Rand were, though, and they probably should have sprang to mind when I asked the question.
Well, like, 20... but because I'm double-majoring in philosophy and had to memorize a lot. Point taken, though, there's not much out there like that. But really, are you going for renown and fame?
Ha! I guess it's not really representative to direct a question about how many philosophers someone knows to someone who is studying philosophy. But it serves me right for not phrasing it properly and directing at you personally!
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Geez that's depressing, Dappled. It's not THAT bad to be a woman at all! I'm outspoken, opinionated, forward, bold & blunt, but I have had plenty of people interested over the years. Many more than I have actually taken up on the offer. I'm not saying this to brag, but I mean... to be honest, thinking that men ONLY want weak-willed, quiet women is pretty misogynistic. I hope it doesn't feel like an attack when I say that, but really the world is far less bleak. There are a myriad different kinds of men (and women) who find women who freely state their opinions quite attractive and interesting.
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Ahh no, of course not, but it does seem harder for women to be taken seriously. I mean, even in today's supposedly enlightened society, how many female philosophers can any of us name?
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Interesting side note, I just asked my roommates and they came up with Nancy Cartwright, Judy Butler, and Ayn Rand. I was impressed! (even though they're all much more modern)
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I'm impressed too, actually. And I have to confess that I thought Nancy Cartwright was the voice of Bart Simpson. I did know who Judith Butler and Ayn Rand were, though, and they probably should have sprang to mind when I asked the question.
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(The only reason my one roomie knew of her is because she got her confused with the Simpson's voice actress in a google search once)
Well, like, 20... but because I'm double-majoring in philosophy and had to memorize a lot. Point taken, though, there's not much out there like that. But really, are you going for renown and fame?
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Ha! I guess it's not really representative to direct a question about how many philosophers someone knows to someone who is studying philosophy. But it serves me right for not phrasing it properly and directing at you personally!
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Ah, it's all good. If I wasn't forced to in order to get good grades, I'd probably only contemptuously mention Ayn Rand :P