I facetiously replied,
"They exist, it's not like santa."
I'm not trolling, you just have problems understanding me.
My point about drugs was you shouldn't always assume there is a good reason for something being illegal, you should find out what the reason is, and then judge whether or not your agree.
"When have you ever heard of a person killing for a pack of cigarettes?" That's right. But then cigarettes are a leading cause of death in many countries, contributing to lung cancer rates (a cancer with one of the highest mortality rates) and heart disease. In terms of a public health risk, cigarettes are pretty high up there. The drug component, nicotine, is addictive, but worse than that is the carcinogenic chemicals that accompany nicotine in tobacco (proven to cause cancer). Yet cigarettes are legal in most countries.
Similarly with alcohol, which contributes to anti-social behaviour, violent crime, car accidents, is addictive and can lead to alcoholism which can result in early death due to organ failure (especially the liver). Yet it's legal in most countries.
So the conclusion that 'it's because of the side-effects' is only sometimes applicable. This makes you question the logic. Why are some drugs, which are less harmful, illegal, yet others, which are more harmful, legal? Hence one of the primary arguments for the legalisation of cannabis; there is plenty of evidence which suggests cannabis is less harmful than alcohol, so why can't it be sold and regulated? Which is a good question. Actually in many countries it is legally permissible to possess and use a small amount of cannabis. In others, it's legal to grow and sell.
We have people who believe in legalizing it and we have people who do not. I dont see how legalizing every illegal substance will make things better. I dont see why people are so dependent on drugs to begin with.
If illegal drugs are so great why do we have rehab? People actually wanting to quit these drugs. Its not like every single person quitting is forced either. Some people generally want to stop doing drugs and believe it ruined there life. Also I don’t see the reason in legalizing alcohol either as its no longer necessary.
I'm speaking specifically about cannabis - that is what this question is about. I'm saying, particularly in response to your 'they made these illegal for a reason' statement, that sometimes the application of the law is inconsistent and the reasoning isn't perfect. It's good to consider this. Also the law varies from country to country, and attitudes vary from culture to culture. What is legal in one place is illegal in another.
And at no point did I say illegal drugs are great. Congratulations for jumping to conclusions.
If pot is illegal its illegal for a reason. Legalizing more drugs is not going to stop crime rates. Its an illegal drug and saying you want to legalize this is the same as legalizing speed, mushrooms and any other type of illegal substance.
Drugs like meth and heroin are a completely different topic from marijuana. Marijuana is less harmful than alcohol or tobacco. It's legal where I live and I think it should be. I do not think meth, heroin, pcp or any hard drugs should be legal because they fuck up society too much and cause a lot of problems. Have you ever heard of someone acting violent because of weed? If you have it probably wasn't the weed. Not all laws make sense either. If you google "dumb laws" you can read about thousands of pointless laws. One reason weed is illegal in some places is that the government makes money from prosecuting people for it. If you think it should be illegal that's fine but realize it is not on the same level as hard drugs. You should try to think deeper into your reasoning for what you believe.
Well I don't see how that can be true when they are having an issue with jail crowding right now. If they have no where to put they have no where to put them. Meaning they would most likely be more lenient on things like drug abuse and minor offences. If that is so why is there overcrowded prisons? Also if that was the case why don’t people seem to be jailed for things like smoking cigars or cigarettes?
Jails are over crowded because of lots of reasons. One of them is jailing people for stupid shit. At the same time people who should be in there longer are often let out too easily such as some child molesters. Here they never really put people in jail for long, if at all, over weed when it was illegal, but they did make money off fining people for it, so I wasn't necessarily talking about jail but I was talking about the fines people get. It's not jail they make money from, its the fines. What they are starting to do at least in the U.S. is try to legalize weed more and tax it a bunch like tobacco. The laws are different depending on where you live.
Rehab supports drug addiction. Its all about the money, honey.
Get a little opiate in your system and check into a methadone clinic. You get 120 Mg of methadone for a couple bucks. And the best part is, the pillheads can go every day for years without their dose being dropped. Thanks gov for rehab.you really care don't you?
If pot was completely legal, how much and how often would you use it?
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"I don't believe in drugs"
I facetiously replied,
"They exist, it's not like santa."
I'm not trolling, you just have problems understanding me.
My point about drugs was you shouldn't always assume there is a good reason for something being illegal, you should find out what the reason is, and then judge whether or not your agree.
"When have you ever heard of a person killing for a pack of cigarettes?" That's right. But then cigarettes are a leading cause of death in many countries, contributing to lung cancer rates (a cancer with one of the highest mortality rates) and heart disease. In terms of a public health risk, cigarettes are pretty high up there. The drug component, nicotine, is addictive, but worse than that is the carcinogenic chemicals that accompany nicotine in tobacco (proven to cause cancer). Yet cigarettes are legal in most countries.
Similarly with alcohol, which contributes to anti-social behaviour, violent crime, car accidents, is addictive and can lead to alcoholism which can result in early death due to organ failure (especially the liver). Yet it's legal in most countries.
So the conclusion that 'it's because of the side-effects' is only sometimes applicable. This makes you question the logic. Why are some drugs, which are less harmful, illegal, yet others, which are more harmful, legal? Hence one of the primary arguments for the legalisation of cannabis; there is plenty of evidence which suggests cannabis is less harmful than alcohol, so why can't it be sold and regulated? Which is a good question. Actually in many countries it is legally permissible to possess and use a small amount of cannabis. In others, it's legal to grow and sell.
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We have people who believe in legalizing it and we have people who do not. I dont see how legalizing every illegal substance will make things better. I dont see why people are so dependent on drugs to begin with.
If illegal drugs are so great why do we have rehab? People actually wanting to quit these drugs. Its not like every single person quitting is forced either. Some people generally want to stop doing drugs and believe it ruined there life. Also I don’t see the reason in legalizing alcohol either as its no longer necessary.
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I'm speaking specifically about cannabis - that is what this question is about. I'm saying, particularly in response to your 'they made these illegal for a reason' statement, that sometimes the application of the law is inconsistent and the reasoning isn't perfect. It's good to consider this. Also the law varies from country to country, and attitudes vary from culture to culture. What is legal in one place is illegal in another.
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Drugs like meth and heroin are a completely different topic from marijuana. Marijuana is less harmful than alcohol or tobacco. It's legal where I live and I think it should be. I do not think meth, heroin, pcp or any hard drugs should be legal because they fuck up society too much and cause a lot of problems. Have you ever heard of someone acting violent because of weed? If you have it probably wasn't the weed. Not all laws make sense either. If you google "dumb laws" you can read about thousands of pointless laws. One reason weed is illegal in some places is that the government makes money from prosecuting people for it. If you think it should be illegal that's fine but realize it is not on the same level as hard drugs. You should try to think deeper into your reasoning for what you believe.
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Jails are over crowded because of lots of reasons. One of them is jailing people for stupid shit. At the same time people who should be in there longer are often let out too easily such as some child molesters. Here they never really put people in jail for long, if at all, over weed when it was illegal, but they did make money off fining people for it, so I wasn't necessarily talking about jail but I was talking about the fines people get. It's not jail they make money from, its the fines. What they are starting to do at least in the U.S. is try to legalize weed more and tax it a bunch like tobacco. The laws are different depending on where you live.
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Rehab supports drug addiction. Its all about the money, honey.
Get a little opiate in your system and check into a methadone clinic. You get 120 Mg of methadone for a couple bucks. And the best part is, the pillheads can go every day for years without their dose being dropped. Thanks gov for rehab.you really care don't you?