Right. If you do some research, I think you'll find that you're not well informed enough on the subject/s to come to that kind of conclusion. And you haven't explained why you think it's delusional.
Well, I hope we can agree that the subject isn't that black and white. I'm not suggesting you're going against my beliefs, I just don't see how you can come out with that sweeping statement if you're informed on the matter/s (if you're a decent person.) Women are being treated appallingly in this world. We're a long way from equality (as in all people, everyone, male or female, should be in it together.)
More so on the subject. When people posted "Don't be that girl" posters, to tell women not to falsely accuse men of rape, which is a crime, they were torn down by feminists claiming it was promoting rape...Telling women not to lie about rape is supporting rape to these people.
Another reason would be that when men try to make speeches aimed at boys/men that both men and women are allowed to view, feminists always try to stop the speech, always try to stop freedom of speech because they don't want men to be told of the issues they face, so much so as to push fire alarms to prevent speeches.
They tear down posters that promote the speeches to get people informed of the time and date of it happening.
They constantly target speeches or anything aimed to help men, then claim to be about equality and that they don't hate men, and nobody in the entire movement stands up to tell these feminists what they are doing is wrong, and that if they do this to not consider themselves a feminists due to it targeting freedom of speech.
I think the wording 'that girl' is a bit... accusatory? I don't actually know of the campaign, to be honest, so I can't really comment.
I think maybe you have experience of extreme feminism, rather than feminism in the true sense. Feminism believes in equality, not superiority or misandry. I guess there will always be extremists in any group. And it is unfair to label it 'moronic'. What was more moronic, was the time before feminism, when women weren't even allowed to vote and were bossed around by men. A lot has changed in the last century due to feminism and many men have supported the cause as well as women. It is about equality - that's the true meaning.
No, sorry, I am all for equality, just not under the hat of what feminism claims equality is.
Women are treated appallingly in areas of the world where men also have it rough, such as third world countries.
You hear about the woman that was violently raped and murdered on the news in some third world country, but you never hear about how a man was beaten to death and beheaded in that same country, which gives the public this idea that women are the only targeted victims in the areas because the media is primarily focused on the female victims, giving the idea that they are the only victims of the vast majority.
If you are talking about being treated appallingly in western society, etc, then sorry, they aren't, and give a few examples of what you, as a feminist, thinks women have to deal with that is "appalling" that men don't.
I learned a long time ago that feminism doesn't practice what they preach. They scream about making the genders equal, yet fight to make sure women get the choices of man and woman, with the responsibility of neither, all while saying men should not get the choices women do, all while expected to take responsibility like a man and a woman.
I disagree when you say it's not reported when men are treated badly. It is. Yes, the treatment of women is worse in poorer countries (usually), but they face problems in western societies, just in different ways. Unequal pay, being constantly objectified in the media, obsession with how old women look (e.g. an actress will be scrutinised, an actor, applauded for his performance and talent.) There are very few women in government when compared to the amount of men. Those are examples off the top of my head. If you think the whole objectification thing and having your appearance scrutinised isn't a big deal and women should just be able to brush it off, then I suggest that if you were to be a woman for a month (that probably includes one period, btw... sorry) then you'd see it's harder than you might imagine.
The definition of feminism is - the advocacy of women’s rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes. To me, that's just common sense. Just because sometimes a few feminists skew that meaning and verge on misandry, doesn't render the whole movement a waste of space. But in the true meaning, everyone should be a feminist - i.e. support equal rights.
Can you give an example of what you mean by some feminists fighting to make choices for everyone but not taking the responsibility? And who is saying men shouldn't get the choices women do? Thanks.
P.s, if you think that using the thumb feature to be anonymous and give the impression I am wrong simply due to how many dislikes you give, then don't parade as being rational.
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Would you please care to explain why it's 'delusional crap'?
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"Patriarchy", "War on women", "Male privilege", "Rape culture". All of that.
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Right. If you do some research, I think you'll find that you're not well informed enough on the subject/s to come to that kind of conclusion. And you haven't explained why you think it's delusional.
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Ofcourse, because going against your beliefs means I am "not informed". Typical feminist - the reason why I left feminism.
I'll tell you what, you go ahead and bring up a few feminist arguments on subjects. Let me inform you of feminism's stupidity.
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Well, I hope we can agree that the subject isn't that black and white. I'm not suggesting you're going against my beliefs, I just don't see how you can come out with that sweeping statement if you're informed on the matter/s (if you're a decent person.) Women are being treated appallingly in this world. We're a long way from equality (as in all people, everyone, male or female, should be in it together.)
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More so on the subject. When people posted "Don't be that girl" posters, to tell women not to falsely accuse men of rape, which is a crime, they were torn down by feminists claiming it was promoting rape...Telling women not to lie about rape is supporting rape to these people.
Another reason would be that when men try to make speeches aimed at boys/men that both men and women are allowed to view, feminists always try to stop the speech, always try to stop freedom of speech because they don't want men to be told of the issues they face, so much so as to push fire alarms to prevent speeches.
They tear down posters that promote the speeches to get people informed of the time and date of it happening.
They constantly target speeches or anything aimed to help men, then claim to be about equality and that they don't hate men, and nobody in the entire movement stands up to tell these feminists what they are doing is wrong, and that if they do this to not consider themselves a feminists due to it targeting freedom of speech.
So again, feminism is just moronic.
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I think the wording 'that girl' is a bit... accusatory? I don't actually know of the campaign, to be honest, so I can't really comment.
I think maybe you have experience of extreme feminism, rather than feminism in the true sense. Feminism believes in equality, not superiority or misandry. I guess there will always be extremists in any group. And it is unfair to label it 'moronic'. What was more moronic, was the time before feminism, when women weren't even allowed to vote and were bossed around by men. A lot has changed in the last century due to feminism and many men have supported the cause as well as women. It is about equality - that's the true meaning.
No, sorry, I am all for equality, just not under the hat of what feminism claims equality is.
Women are treated appallingly in areas of the world where men also have it rough, such as third world countries.
You hear about the woman that was violently raped and murdered on the news in some third world country, but you never hear about how a man was beaten to death and beheaded in that same country, which gives the public this idea that women are the only targeted victims in the areas because the media is primarily focused on the female victims, giving the idea that they are the only victims of the vast majority.
If you are talking about being treated appallingly in western society, etc, then sorry, they aren't, and give a few examples of what you, as a feminist, thinks women have to deal with that is "appalling" that men don't.
I learned a long time ago that feminism doesn't practice what they preach. They scream about making the genders equal, yet fight to make sure women get the choices of man and woman, with the responsibility of neither, all while saying men should not get the choices women do, all while expected to take responsibility like a man and a woman.
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I disagree when you say it's not reported when men are treated badly. It is. Yes, the treatment of women is worse in poorer countries (usually), but they face problems in western societies, just in different ways. Unequal pay, being constantly objectified in the media, obsession with how old women look (e.g. an actress will be scrutinised, an actor, applauded for his performance and talent.) There are very few women in government when compared to the amount of men. Those are examples off the top of my head. If you think the whole objectification thing and having your appearance scrutinised isn't a big deal and women should just be able to brush it off, then I suggest that if you were to be a woman for a month (that probably includes one period, btw... sorry) then you'd see it's harder than you might imagine.
The definition of feminism is - the advocacy of women’s rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes. To me, that's just common sense. Just because sometimes a few feminists skew that meaning and verge on misandry, doesn't render the whole movement a waste of space. But in the true meaning, everyone should be a feminist - i.e. support equal rights.
Can you give an example of what you mean by some feminists fighting to make choices for everyone but not taking the responsibility? And who is saying men shouldn't get the choices women do? Thanks.
P.s, if you think that using the thumb feature to be anonymous and give the impression I am wrong simply due to how many dislikes you give, then don't parade as being rational.
Only fools hide behinds such tactics when they are incapable of actually defending their point.