I once had an English professor who was a female. She left her husband and son to come to California because she wanted freedom - freedom from her suburban life of being a wife and Mommy, she wanted to explore and live the life of an intellectual. I'm almost certain that I was the only person in the room thinking "if this were a man saying all of this, we'd consider him a jackass, but since it's a woman leaving her parental obligation and her oath of companionship, she's a fucking inspiration?". Yeah, she still had contact with her son and all, who was a small child when she left, but if it were a man saying this? Oh, what a shit head he'd be.
I'm just saying.
I'm familiar with at least one of those pieces of literature. Nothing, even oppression, will justify certain selfishness in my mind. I refuse to believe that it is in any way ethical to apply moral standards to men but not to apply the same to females.
Wow... this English professor of yours actually does sound like a jackass. Did people really find her an "inspiration" for abandoning her duty as a mother to become an "intellectual"? She sounds like a selfish dick to me :/
Yeah, for real, fuck this bitch. Like I said, if she was a dude saying that she fucking left suburbia parenthood to be a profound intellectual bullshit then everyone would have been like "WTF, you ditched your kid to follow your dreams, why'd you even have kids, you ditched your obligation!". But no, she was a fucking inspiration and she spoke with the honest conviction that there was nothing wrong with her jackassery.
Meh. To me, the concept of feminism revolves around the concept, that women should be free to chose, not that selfishness and lack of care for seemingly archaic obligations is in any way acceptable. If it's bashing men, or commending women for doing something that a man would be condemned for doing or vice versa, then to hell with it. That said, many feminists share my mentality, so I don't expect that all feminist literature "bashes men"...
Lol, no offense taken. I just assumed that the story about your professor was one that really pissed you off, which I totally understand.
Part of me just doesn't think I've read enough feminist literature... maybe it's just the ones that the teachers picked for us to read in high school were the only ones that bashed men and all the other typical feminist stuff really isn't like that.
Yeah well that seems to be a common theme in more... uh... publicized feminist literature.
I enjoy reading about society's effects and expectations of women... and to the reader, no that does not mean that I don't also care to read about society's effects and expectations of men either... But I enjoy reading literature that is empowering to females and encourages females to take control of their lives rather than being pitiful as many of these literary works portray them to be, or giving up all of your power to men ("I need a man to take care of me!"). I'm not saying that I enjoy literature that bashes men, empowering women is not the same as bashing men in any respect unless it is given that trait by the author, but I have read many articles and blogs that send the messages that I like, that women NEED to hear, which is "Hey, ladies, you got your freedom, now take control of your lives!".
I am surprised I got any thumbs up on it, sounds like a stupid rant now that I read it.
Anywho, most girlies are told to do all of the fun stuff you want to do before you become a Mommy, because you don't get the chance to live freely until all of the kiddies are grown and out. I thought that was common fucking sense, she broke the rules!
I've never liked a single piece of feminist literature I've read
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I once had an English professor who was a female. She left her husband and son to come to California because she wanted freedom - freedom from her suburban life of being a wife and Mommy, she wanted to explore and live the life of an intellectual. I'm almost certain that I was the only person in the room thinking "if this were a man saying all of this, we'd consider him a jackass, but since it's a woman leaving her parental obligation and her oath of companionship, she's a fucking inspiration?". Yeah, she still had contact with her son and all, who was a small child when she left, but if it were a man saying this? Oh, what a shit head he'd be.
I'm just saying.
I'm familiar with at least one of those pieces of literature. Nothing, even oppression, will justify certain selfishness in my mind. I refuse to believe that it is in any way ethical to apply moral standards to men but not to apply the same to females.
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Wow... this English professor of yours actually does sound like a jackass. Did people really find her an "inspiration" for abandoning her duty as a mother to become an "intellectual"? She sounds like a selfish dick to me :/
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Yeah, for real, fuck this bitch. Like I said, if she was a dude saying that she fucking left suburbia parenthood to be a profound intellectual bullshit then everyone would have been like "WTF, you ditched your kid to follow your dreams, why'd you even have kids, you ditched your obligation!". But no, she was a fucking inspiration and she spoke with the honest conviction that there was nothing wrong with her jackassery.
Meh. To me, the concept of feminism revolves around the concept, that women should be free to chose, not that selfishness and lack of care for seemingly archaic obligations is in any way acceptable. If it's bashing men, or commending women for doing something that a man would be condemned for doing or vice versa, then to hell with it. That said, many feminists share my mentality, so I don't expect that all feminist literature "bashes men"...
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Man, that's a lot of cursing. I've done a lot of smoking. My apologies.
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Lol, no offense taken. I just assumed that the story about your professor was one that really pissed you off, which I totally understand.
Part of me just doesn't think I've read enough feminist literature... maybe it's just the ones that the teachers picked for us to read in high school were the only ones that bashed men and all the other typical feminist stuff really isn't like that.
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Yeah well that seems to be a common theme in more... uh... publicized feminist literature.
I enjoy reading about society's effects and expectations of women... and to the reader, no that does not mean that I don't also care to read about society's effects and expectations of men either... But I enjoy reading literature that is empowering to females and encourages females to take control of their lives rather than being pitiful as many of these literary works portray them to be, or giving up all of your power to men ("I need a man to take care of me!"). I'm not saying that I enjoy literature that bashes men, empowering women is not the same as bashing men in any respect unless it is given that trait by the author, but I have read many articles and blogs that send the messages that I like, that women NEED to hear, which is "Hey, ladies, you got your freedom, now take control of your lives!".
thats messed up by amy standard.
Great post. You are spot on mate.
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I am surprised I got any thumbs up on it, sounds like a stupid rant now that I read it.
Anywho, most girlies are told to do all of the fun stuff you want to do before you become a Mommy, because you don't get the chance to live freely until all of the kiddies are grown and out. I thought that was common fucking sense, she broke the rules!