It kind of depends if she was fully aware, and to be fair just before this happened he was doing a sexual act on her while she was sleeping. She should have woken him up, but I'm reluctant to tell a woman what she should do with a man who's rubbing his dick against her, whatever the reason. That's kind of her decision to make. In the end I think this is between them.
No. According to the Department of Justice, the definition of "rape" is as follows: “The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”
If you're gunning to make rape a meaningless word, you're on the right track. However you missed a little detail here, which is that a victim is someone who has been harmed. Homeboy came to no harm here whatsoever. In any case, when you get in bed with a girl and rub your dick on her, if that's not consent then consent isn't real and the distinction doesn't matter. I don't care if he wasn't aware he was doing it. She didn't put his soul in her vagina, and she's not responsible for whatever disconnect a man might have going on between his mind and his body. Another human was in her bed being sexual with her and she responded correctly. If that's rape, mark me down as an enthusiastic supporter.
So is date rape not rape, then? I mean, the person isn't -harmed- by it. The only thing they're actually harmed by is the drugging, not the rape itself. So, by your logic of "a victim must be harmed", then date rape is not rape.
If you're really talking about children, that's not statutory rape, it's actual rape. Children cannot consent to sex, and those who say they do are shown to have experienced psychological harm. If we are talking about consenting sex between sexually mature teenagers then no, obviously that is not rape.
Oh boo hoo. This political correct crap has got to go. Sex is gonna be so boring in 10 years if we keep this shit. The future looks like this:
"I am legally required to ask before or this will be sexual assault so may I try to kiss you?" "I consent"
"Ok now that I have kissed you may I advance to butt rub?" "I consent".
Thats where this crap is going because of these crybabies. Always a technicality. Like "oh no he just kissed that girl without asking" give me a break. What a turnoff
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It kind of depends if she was fully aware, and to be fair just before this happened he was doing a sexual act on her while she was sleeping. She should have woken him up, but I'm reluctant to tell a woman what she should do with a man who's rubbing his dick against her, whatever the reason. That's kind of her decision to make. In the end I think this is between them.
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No. According to the Department of Justice, the definition of "rape" is as follows: “The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”
Sounds like rape to me.
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If you're gunning to make rape a meaningless word, you're on the right track. However you missed a little detail here, which is that a victim is someone who has been harmed. Homeboy came to no harm here whatsoever. In any case, when you get in bed with a girl and rub your dick on her, if that's not consent then consent isn't real and the distinction doesn't matter. I don't care if he wasn't aware he was doing it. She didn't put his soul in her vagina, and she's not responsible for whatever disconnect a man might have going on between his mind and his body. Another human was in her bed being sexual with her and she responded correctly. If that's rape, mark me down as an enthusiastic supporter.
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So is date rape not rape, then? I mean, the person isn't -harmed- by it. The only thing they're actually harmed by is the drugging, not the rape itself. So, by your logic of "a victim must be harmed", then date rape is not rape.
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Maybe you should ask someone who has been date raped if they have been harmed or not.
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Or what about in one of the statutory rape cases in which the child has fun? Is that not rape then because the child wasn't harmed?
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If you're really talking about children, that's not statutory rape, it's actual rape. Children cannot consent to sex, and those who say they do are shown to have experienced psychological harm. If we are talking about consenting sex between sexually mature teenagers then no, obviously that is not rape.
So the Department of Justice is trying to make rape a meaningless word? Yeah, right.
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No, you are by deliberately ignoring the meaning of the word victim.
Who gives a crap about the technicalities? God darn liberals. Two ppl fucked big deal. We aint gotta make a trial out of this.
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What part of "this is between them" did you miss?
The problem is that it wasn't consentual.
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Oh boo hoo. This political correct crap has got to go. Sex is gonna be so boring in 10 years if we keep this shit. The future looks like this:
"I am legally required to ask before or this will be sexual assault so may I try to kiss you?" "I consent"
"Ok now that I have kissed you may I advance to butt rub?" "I consent".
Thats where this crap is going because of these crybabies. Always a technicality. Like "oh no he just kissed that girl without asking" give me a break. What a turnoff