If the people standing around were a distraction and the media ate it up you're ignoring the fact that the media was there in the first place. Look up the articles with photos of the event and look at the portfolios of the people who were credited in taking the pictures. They put this out in the open bruh. Im not thinking Im coming here with top secret information, you can do a google search and confirm what Im saying in one minute.
Steel beams are a non-issue. The top of a building cant crush the entire bottom of a building. The structure gets heavier the further down you go.
And if you think the NRA bought the CIA you're looking at the wrong people. Or maybe you've never heard of Operation Northwoods, Operation Mockingbird, MK Ultra, CIA trafficking of drugs, Testing AIDS vaccines on forster children, or COINTELPRO. Fucking building 7 man.
My state is announcing we're going to have to scan into buisinesses with a vaccine passport soon. This is all moving in one direction. Total surveilance of everything we do with a social credit system like China has.
Don't believe ANYTHING you see in the news. Its all a lie to keep you distracted and confused. If they can lie to you about the world you live in they own you, and you're a slave. The flicker rate of the TV is hypnosis and there's been a patent filed for this technology for almost 20 years. This shit isn't "silly conspiracy theory" anymore. Its all really happening.
Shrooms are cool though. Psilocybin is one of the greatest medicines that exists.
Trump openly discussed the protest/riot/terrorist attack/coup attempt for weeks. I have no idea why you think it’s significant that the media was there in the first place. I’m genuinely lost on this one.
I only brought up 9/11 to make the point that it’s easy to find somebody who makes any claim you want to look for. You can find somebody who claims the top of a building can’t crush the bottom, or that an entire building can’t collapse from an uncontrolled fire. That doesn’t make it true. It’s just as easy to find a whole lot more people, who have a whole lot more credibility, explaining that that’s exactly what should’ve happened to the towers and building 7 under those exact circumstances. I could make a website saying that if the planes had really flown into the buildings, they would’ve come out the other side intact because the buildings aren’t strong enough to damage a plane. Or that the entire building should’ve launched off the surface of the Earth at 600 mph since that’s how fast the planes were going. That’d be as scientifically sound as the claims as anything else these people come up with.
I’m just trying to figure out where you think the CIA fits in with these mass shootings. Like I said, if there’s a group behind them, clearly the NRA is involved, so did the NRA buy off the CIA or is the CIA profiting from the NRA or what?
As for everything being a lie, that is EXACTLY what they want you to think. You really don’t see it? Convincing somebody that everybody is lying to them is one of the oldest manipulation tricks in the book. If you get somebody to believe you’re the only one telling them the truth, you own them. It’s a method used by millions of abusive spouses trying to control their partners, all the way up to dictators trying to control the populace. Why do you think Trump is always demonizing the media? It’s not just because he wants to inspire his supporters to harass and attack them, that’s just the icing on the cake. He wants people to view him as the only source of information, so he has complete control over his followers. He learned it from Hitler and Putin, among others.
Now see, here's the part where we part ways. You said it perfectly. You can find people with a lot of "credibility" who can tell you anything you want them to say. Who's giving them this credibility in the first place? Have they earned my credibility by scientifically demonstrating a structural collapse like that? Well they never even tried. All models explaining 9/11 were based off COMPUTER MODELS, not actual phyiscal models like would normally be used in a building or bridge collapse. You're listening to disinfo about 9/11 if you think doubting the official narrative is as credbile as the plane blasting a skyscraper off the face of the planet. Building 7 is the smoking gun. "Credible experts" can tell me rockets can land on boats in the water, but no physical demonstration of this exists outside SpaceX propaganda.
CIA fits in because of Operation Mockingbird and COINTELPRO being openly declassified as exisitng. You can look this up.
I don't know where you get that I support trump but as I see it you have it half right. Apparently in eastern countries it doesnt really work like this in terms of people tying their identity to their political party like its a football team. In america the system is based off pre-approved 2 sided arguments and convincing everyone on the other side is either a racist redneck or welfare-defrauding baby killer, depending on which side you're talking to. The media is nothing but propaganda. But Trump wasn't any different from Obama, Biden, Bush, any of them, they're all pre-selected candidates. They don't have real elections.
Politics is left twix vs right twix like in those commercials. Both sides hate each other, but in the end they're exactly the same thing. Political figures are playing a wrestling character. Trumps character was the "Anti-establishment wildcard who doesn't give a fuck." The point is he was still playing a character, no different from any of the others. I don't get why you seem to think I supported Trump.
Its all a show. We're free range slaves and the crop being farmed is our money, compliance, and bodily autonomy. They present you a picture of the world that isn't accurate to manipulate and control you.
I feel like this is going to go the same way as our moon landing conversations. There’s a world of difference between “doubting the official narrative” and “bombs were used to bring down the buildings.” I’m 100% on board with you if you tell me you’re not convinced the planes were the only reasons the towers fell, or that we actually went to the moon. I might not agree, but I can absolutely see where you’re coming from and I would totally support that because skepticism is good. But taking the 180 degree opposite stance - that it was clearly an inside job or that NASA is faking it all - is something else entirely. That’s closer to denialism than skepticism. The people claiming bombs were used didn’t use physical models or computer models. They have even less credibility than the people who support the “official narrative” of what happened. This isn’t a binary choice, you don’t have to fully believe one side or the other. You can choose to believe aspects of both, or simply say you don’t know altogether.
You may be onto something here with the connections between the CIA and NRA. COINTELPRO was definitely something that the NRA would fully support.
I’m not sure where you got that I think you support Trump, but you’re right that most other countries don’t do politics like the US does. No other country has cockamamie rules that bend and twist the will of the people so that the minority consistently has as much or more power than the majority, most countries don’t even put everybody into nice, square boxes where everybody agrees with the all the people in their box and hates the people in the other.
Media wants ratings, because ratings = money. And, sadly, debates = ratings these days. That’s why you can turn on just about any cable news network and see two people on opposite sides screaming at each other until the “host” goes to commercial, or in some cases the host might be representing one side in which case they’ll cut off the other person so they can get the last word. That’s what people want to see, apparently, because the same thing happens on sports networks. Some of it is definitely state run, ie Fox News would never air anything that the Trump White House wouldn’t approve of, but that’s mostly just because they’re both bought and paid for by the same people(the Koch brothers, the NRA, etc).
It was obviously a controlled demolition. But we can agree to disagree. There are physical models demonstrating this though, this is a really good short video:
Im glad we finally agree on something though. Everybody gets put into little boxes. You have the freedom to do whatever you want, so long as your belief system aligns with boxes we're allowing you to check. What does your feelings on immigration have to do with abortion or gay marriage? Nothing, but to be a part of the group you need to follow the belief system of the group. People get their whole identity tied up in this nonsense. Fundamentally, people are scared of not belonging.
Media wants ratings but the people behind the news have a more nefarious agenda. The world you see portrayed in the news isn't reality, it's a simplified, skewed version of reality but it's not really the truth. Everything gets filtered through what the powers that be want you to be seeing, and that's how they control you. The people that think ONLY fox news or ONLY CNN are lying are missing the whole point.
At the end of the day we really don't know altogether, much of anything. Because it's all told to us by other people. The only thing you can really "know" is things you can demonstrate to yourself. That's why I honestly don't believe in a lot of this stuff. If you can land a rocket on a boat but cant demonstrate the physics of something like that working in reality, I have no reason to believe its possible because I have no reason to trust the people telling me they did it.
That’s not a model of a tower with a plane crashing into it, I’m really not sure what that’s supposed to demonstrate. But I can see why that would be effective, convincing propaganda for people who decided ahead of time that they were not going to believe the official story no matter what it was.
I will say that I think all those issues are at least somewhat loosely connected. It’s easy to see a person who believes in fairness and equality and treating others with kindness and respect taking one side on all of those issues. And people who only care about themselves taking the other. I used to work with a guy who never watched the news or listened to anything political but he always took the conservative position on things on his own because he didn’t give a shit if people had the right to do things he didn’t care about doing. He was never going to leave the country so he didn’t care about immigration, he was never going to have an abortion so he didn’t care they were legal, he was never going to marry a man so he didn’t care if gay marriage was legal. His argument against gay marriage was that there are gay people who secretly didn’t want to get married but used the fact that it was illegal as an excuse, and if it became legal then they’d be screwed because they’d be forced into a marriage they didn’t want. That was his thought process, because he didn’t want to get married(his wife had put pressure on him to do so), so he only related to theoretical gay people that might think like him. He opposed making Election Day a holiday or moving it to weekends because some people vote on their way to or from work, which is what he did. He didn’t care that millions more people would be able to vote overall, he only cared about himself and, by extension, people who thought like him.
I definitely understand what you’re saying about not trust people. I’m just saying, it’s a step beyond “I don’t trust them so I don’t know if it’s true or not” to say “that’s a lie.” The latter is still playing into the hands of the people who want you to be in one box or the other, because you’re still picking one side of a supposed two sided argument. It’s okay to say you don’t know, it’s okay to not pick a side. You don’t have to be atheist or theist, you can be agnostic. There are a whole lot of things that we don’t know and there’s nothing wrong with acknowledging that.
Im pretty agnostic about most things. If technology that cant be demonstrated is being shown to people, Im not going to believe its real. Someone making a fantastical claim like "We have ships that can go to space" has a burden of proof to satisfy to be taken seriously. I watch everything NASA and SpaceX put out, and I can tell you exactly how they're faking all of it with openly availible film editing technology.
The news is fiction. Its a narrative scripted to appeal to people who think one way or another and pit those people against each other over non-issues that will never be resolved. Do you think the bankers running the world care if gay people get married? Of course not, but its a divisive "A or B" argument that they can trot out every time there's an election and everybody goes on one side or the other.
Its one thing not to trust people and its another to consider things a liar tells you as probably intentionally false. Trusting propaganda has gotten people in some pretty bad situations. No one knows anything that they can't demonstrate and prove to themselves, everything else is a religious belief.
The video is supposed to demonstrate that floors falling on top of each other don't accelerate, the downward movement is slowed and eventually stops before the falling floors reach the bottom. The top couple of floors of a tower weigh a lot less than the 95 floors below them, so the weight isnt enough to collapse the entire building.
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If the people standing around were a distraction and the media ate it up you're ignoring the fact that the media was there in the first place. Look up the articles with photos of the event and look at the portfolios of the people who were credited in taking the pictures. They put this out in the open bruh. Im not thinking Im coming here with top secret information, you can do a google search and confirm what Im saying in one minute.
Steel beams are a non-issue. The top of a building cant crush the entire bottom of a building. The structure gets heavier the further down you go.
And if you think the NRA bought the CIA you're looking at the wrong people. Or maybe you've never heard of Operation Northwoods, Operation Mockingbird, MK Ultra, CIA trafficking of drugs, Testing AIDS vaccines on forster children, or COINTELPRO. Fucking building 7 man.
My state is announcing we're going to have to scan into buisinesses with a vaccine passport soon. This is all moving in one direction. Total surveilance of everything we do with a social credit system like China has.
Don't believe ANYTHING you see in the news. Its all a lie to keep you distracted and confused. If they can lie to you about the world you live in they own you, and you're a slave. The flicker rate of the TV is hypnosis and there's been a patent filed for this technology for almost 20 years. This shit isn't "silly conspiracy theory" anymore. Its all really happening.
Shrooms are cool though. Psilocybin is one of the greatest medicines that exists.
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Trump openly discussed the protest/riot/terrorist attack/coup attempt for weeks. I have no idea why you think it’s significant that the media was there in the first place. I’m genuinely lost on this one.
I only brought up 9/11 to make the point that it’s easy to find somebody who makes any claim you want to look for. You can find somebody who claims the top of a building can’t crush the bottom, or that an entire building can’t collapse from an uncontrolled fire. That doesn’t make it true. It’s just as easy to find a whole lot more people, who have a whole lot more credibility, explaining that that’s exactly what should’ve happened to the towers and building 7 under those exact circumstances. I could make a website saying that if the planes had really flown into the buildings, they would’ve come out the other side intact because the buildings aren’t strong enough to damage a plane. Or that the entire building should’ve launched off the surface of the Earth at 600 mph since that’s how fast the planes were going. That’d be as scientifically sound as the claims as anything else these people come up with.
I’m just trying to figure out where you think the CIA fits in with these mass shootings. Like I said, if there’s a group behind them, clearly the NRA is involved, so did the NRA buy off the CIA or is the CIA profiting from the NRA or what?
As for everything being a lie, that is EXACTLY what they want you to think. You really don’t see it? Convincing somebody that everybody is lying to them is one of the oldest manipulation tricks in the book. If you get somebody to believe you’re the only one telling them the truth, you own them. It’s a method used by millions of abusive spouses trying to control their partners, all the way up to dictators trying to control the populace. Why do you think Trump is always demonizing the media? It’s not just because he wants to inspire his supporters to harass and attack them, that’s just the icing on the cake. He wants people to view him as the only source of information, so he has complete control over his followers. He learned it from Hitler and Putin, among others.
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Now see, here's the part where we part ways. You said it perfectly. You can find people with a lot of "credibility" who can tell you anything you want them to say. Who's giving them this credibility in the first place? Have they earned my credibility by scientifically demonstrating a structural collapse like that? Well they never even tried. All models explaining 9/11 were based off COMPUTER MODELS, not actual phyiscal models like would normally be used in a building or bridge collapse. You're listening to disinfo about 9/11 if you think doubting the official narrative is as credbile as the plane blasting a skyscraper off the face of the planet. Building 7 is the smoking gun. "Credible experts" can tell me rockets can land on boats in the water, but no physical demonstration of this exists outside SpaceX propaganda.
CIA fits in because of Operation Mockingbird and COINTELPRO being openly declassified as exisitng. You can look this up.
I don't know where you get that I support trump but as I see it you have it half right. Apparently in eastern countries it doesnt really work like this in terms of people tying their identity to their political party like its a football team. In america the system is based off pre-approved 2 sided arguments and convincing everyone on the other side is either a racist redneck or welfare-defrauding baby killer, depending on which side you're talking to. The media is nothing but propaganda. But Trump wasn't any different from Obama, Biden, Bush, any of them, they're all pre-selected candidates. They don't have real elections.
Politics is left twix vs right twix like in those commercials. Both sides hate each other, but in the end they're exactly the same thing. Political figures are playing a wrestling character. Trumps character was the "Anti-establishment wildcard who doesn't give a fuck." The point is he was still playing a character, no different from any of the others. I don't get why you seem to think I supported Trump.
Its all a show. We're free range slaves and the crop being farmed is our money, compliance, and bodily autonomy. They present you a picture of the world that isn't accurate to manipulate and control you.
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I feel like this is going to go the same way as our moon landing conversations. There’s a world of difference between “doubting the official narrative” and “bombs were used to bring down the buildings.” I’m 100% on board with you if you tell me you’re not convinced the planes were the only reasons the towers fell, or that we actually went to the moon. I might not agree, but I can absolutely see where you’re coming from and I would totally support that because skepticism is good. But taking the 180 degree opposite stance - that it was clearly an inside job or that NASA is faking it all - is something else entirely. That’s closer to denialism than skepticism. The people claiming bombs were used didn’t use physical models or computer models. They have even less credibility than the people who support the “official narrative” of what happened. This isn’t a binary choice, you don’t have to fully believe one side or the other. You can choose to believe aspects of both, or simply say you don’t know altogether.
You may be onto something here with the connections between the CIA and NRA. COINTELPRO was definitely something that the NRA would fully support.
I’m not sure where you got that I think you support Trump, but you’re right that most other countries don’t do politics like the US does. No other country has cockamamie rules that bend and twist the will of the people so that the minority consistently has as much or more power than the majority, most countries don’t even put everybody into nice, square boxes where everybody agrees with the all the people in their box and hates the people in the other.
Media wants ratings, because ratings = money. And, sadly, debates = ratings these days. That’s why you can turn on just about any cable news network and see two people on opposite sides screaming at each other until the “host” goes to commercial, or in some cases the host might be representing one side in which case they’ll cut off the other person so they can get the last word. That’s what people want to see, apparently, because the same thing happens on sports networks. Some of it is definitely state run, ie Fox News would never air anything that the Trump White House wouldn’t approve of, but that’s mostly just because they’re both bought and paid for by the same people(the Koch brothers, the NRA, etc).
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It was obviously a controlled demolition. But we can agree to disagree. There are physical models demonstrating this though, this is a really good short video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJNzaMRsN00&t=688s
Im glad we finally agree on something though. Everybody gets put into little boxes. You have the freedom to do whatever you want, so long as your belief system aligns with boxes we're allowing you to check. What does your feelings on immigration have to do with abortion or gay marriage? Nothing, but to be a part of the group you need to follow the belief system of the group. People get their whole identity tied up in this nonsense. Fundamentally, people are scared of not belonging.
Media wants ratings but the people behind the news have a more nefarious agenda. The world you see portrayed in the news isn't reality, it's a simplified, skewed version of reality but it's not really the truth. Everything gets filtered through what the powers that be want you to be seeing, and that's how they control you. The people that think ONLY fox news or ONLY CNN are lying are missing the whole point.
At the end of the day we really don't know altogether, much of anything. Because it's all told to us by other people. The only thing you can really "know" is things you can demonstrate to yourself. That's why I honestly don't believe in a lot of this stuff. If you can land a rocket on a boat but cant demonstrate the physics of something like that working in reality, I have no reason to believe its possible because I have no reason to trust the people telling me they did it.
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That’s not a model of a tower with a plane crashing into it, I’m really not sure what that’s supposed to demonstrate. But I can see why that would be effective, convincing propaganda for people who decided ahead of time that they were not going to believe the official story no matter what it was.
I will say that I think all those issues are at least somewhat loosely connected. It’s easy to see a person who believes in fairness and equality and treating others with kindness and respect taking one side on all of those issues. And people who only care about themselves taking the other. I used to work with a guy who never watched the news or listened to anything political but he always took the conservative position on things on his own because he didn’t give a shit if people had the right to do things he didn’t care about doing. He was never going to leave the country so he didn’t care about immigration, he was never going to have an abortion so he didn’t care they were legal, he was never going to marry a man so he didn’t care if gay marriage was legal. His argument against gay marriage was that there are gay people who secretly didn’t want to get married but used the fact that it was illegal as an excuse, and if it became legal then they’d be screwed because they’d be forced into a marriage they didn’t want. That was his thought process, because he didn’t want to get married(his wife had put pressure on him to do so), so he only related to theoretical gay people that might think like him. He opposed making Election Day a holiday or moving it to weekends because some people vote on their way to or from work, which is what he did. He didn’t care that millions more people would be able to vote overall, he only cared about himself and, by extension, people who thought like him.
I definitely understand what you’re saying about not trust people. I’m just saying, it’s a step beyond “I don’t trust them so I don’t know if it’s true or not” to say “that’s a lie.” The latter is still playing into the hands of the people who want you to be in one box or the other, because you’re still picking one side of a supposed two sided argument. It’s okay to say you don’t know, it’s okay to not pick a side. You don’t have to be atheist or theist, you can be agnostic. There are a whole lot of things that we don’t know and there’s nothing wrong with acknowledging that.
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Im pretty agnostic about most things. If technology that cant be demonstrated is being shown to people, Im not going to believe its real. Someone making a fantastical claim like "We have ships that can go to space" has a burden of proof to satisfy to be taken seriously. I watch everything NASA and SpaceX put out, and I can tell you exactly how they're faking all of it with openly availible film editing technology.
The news is fiction. Its a narrative scripted to appeal to people who think one way or another and pit those people against each other over non-issues that will never be resolved. Do you think the bankers running the world care if gay people get married? Of course not, but its a divisive "A or B" argument that they can trot out every time there's an election and everybody goes on one side or the other.
Its one thing not to trust people and its another to consider things a liar tells you as probably intentionally false. Trusting propaganda has gotten people in some pretty bad situations. No one knows anything that they can't demonstrate and prove to themselves, everything else is a religious belief.
The video is supposed to demonstrate that floors falling on top of each other don't accelerate, the downward movement is slowed and eventually stops before the falling floors reach the bottom. The top couple of floors of a tower weigh a lot less than the 95 floors below them, so the weight isnt enough to collapse the entire building.
And then there's building 7...