I don't want to go on with this optimism vs pessimism talk.
My point is that when parents decide to have a child in a world that entails a serious possibility for suffering, they are risking to create someone whose life could be nothing but misery, and they are fully aware of this possibility. Parents impose their views that life is good and worth living on their children as they bring them into a world without their consent.
That's what I happen to find immoral and that's why I hate parents, because they don't respect their own offspring's opinions and put their irrational desires above the well-being of their children.
I think the optimism vs pessimism talk is key to this whole thing. Parents sacrifice 18 or more years of their life to give a lifetime's worth of time to another. What life is, then, is key to this whole argument. If you could objectively prove that life is necessarily all misery, hatred and conceit then yes, it would follow that parents are bad people. The issue I'm taking with your argument is that parents are bringing people into a necessarily bad world.
Yes, because raising kids is selfless but having kids is selfish. There is a difference between having kids and raising kids. Now,I believe that parents are bad because they are gambling with the life of an innocent entity for self-gratification and this is the most selfish act imaginable. You could say that the majority of people enjoy being alive, but the point is that parents are risking to create a life of suffering without the consent of that life.
Parents are aware that they could create a miserable child and they still go and procreate. They don't take into consideration the well-being of the child.
I hate people who have children
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I don't want to go on with this optimism vs pessimism talk.
My point is that when parents decide to have a child in a world that entails a serious possibility for suffering, they are risking to create someone whose life could be nothing but misery, and they are fully aware of this possibility. Parents impose their views that life is good and worth living on their children as they bring them into a world without their consent.
That's what I happen to find immoral and that's why I hate parents, because they don't respect their own offspring's opinions and put their irrational desires above the well-being of their children.
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I think the optimism vs pessimism talk is key to this whole thing. Parents sacrifice 18 or more years of their life to give a lifetime's worth of time to another. What life is, then, is key to this whole argument. If you could objectively prove that life is necessarily all misery, hatred and conceit then yes, it would follow that parents are bad people. The issue I'm taking with your argument is that parents are bringing people into a necessarily bad world.
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Yes, because raising kids is selfless but having kids is selfish. There is a difference between having kids and raising kids. Now,I believe that parents are bad because they are gambling with the life of an innocent entity for self-gratification and this is the most selfish act imaginable. You could say that the majority of people enjoy being alive, but the point is that parents are risking to create a life of suffering without the consent of that life.
Parents are aware that they could create a miserable child and they still go and procreate. They don't take into consideration the well-being of the child.