Ya know, that's the second time I've seen you use that quote on this site and I gotta tell ya it's pretty fucking dumb. Why give yourself permission to be a miserable person? That's like saying it's okay to be a malcontent, ungrateful twat because your neighbor has a new car. Life is all about perspective. You can either focus on what you're fortunate enough to have compared to many people and be happy or focus on what you don't and be a whiny fuck. I choose to be grateful for a home, a job, plenty of food in the fridge, good friends, etc, etc, because many people around the world aren't so fortunate. There is no reward in negativity. Don't intellectualize yourself out of a beneficial perspective, out of a content existence.
I don't agree with that. It's self-congratulatory. Why should you only go ra-ra-ra at what good has fallen into your lap? Isn't it at all possible to reflect upon the bad things that have happened as well? Or perhaps do you live in a world where bad things only happen to other people?
Believe me, a lot bad has "fallen into my lap." And yes you can reflect on that as well. But that's not something I want to be at the forefront of my mind. If I was constantly thinking of the things I've been through I'd be an angry mother fucker. Look, everyone, myself included, is susceptible to sadness, I know that. Take that story I linked, the girl is contemplating suicide because her fucking iPod broke, her vacation was cancelled, and she was getting a little chubby. Those, in my opinion, are stupid ass reasons to want to die. If that was me I'd try to change my perspective on the issue. Try to find things that I can be grateful for. How about the fact that she has enough food to eat? Maybe that she has the resources to own an iPod? Or that her parents are of a socioeconomic class that can afford to plan a vacation in the first place? Or is this all too "self-congratulatory"?
Did I? You're saying telling someone to be happy because others have it worse is unhelpful, ineffective advice. The equivalent of telling someone they can't be happy because others have it better. If that's not what the quote suggest then please enlighten me.
Oh, okay, I think I get it now. I just realized I don't agree. I think any comparisons are pointless. You should only compare your life and yourself to (ta-dah!!!) yourself!
You're right. There doesn't have to be comparisons. If you're grateful for what you have instead of thinking of what you don't you'll be more content. Period. No comparisons to others necessary.
In that story a few people were telling the OP that her problems are comparatively petty. Then he basically says that telling her to cheer up because things could be worse is comparable to being sad because things could be better. Which is fucking stupid (see comment above) yeah... Read it tomorrow. Haha
It's fucking stupid that you completely missed the point. Just because someone has it worse, doesn't make the problems of the one suffering any less valid. It's ok to be sad once in awhile. In fact, it's better than bottling all up until it explodes. We all get sad, it's called being human. There's nothing wrong with it. You remind me of a rude version of those overly positive hippie people who ignore every problem and force themselves to act like everything is alright 24/7.
Oh and may I remind you that not everybody is like you? Good for you that you are happy with your things. Doesn't mean they satisfy someone else. Yes yes being a "whiny fuck" is just another part of being human. With emotions.
Ha. You think I don't have sympathy for sadness? That I think it's an intolerable feeling? You've misjudged me. I'm well aware of the spectrum of human emotion. This may be a shock to you but I have they ability to feel sadness too. But instead of wallowing in despair I choose to change my frame of mind. it's simple fucking psychology. This isn't about passive aggressive explosions, let's be real. it's simply a choice to be happier by reflecting on your blessings rather than what's lacking in your life, what you don't have. Hope your "favorite quote of all times" serves you well.
Yeah well not everyone can just "look on the bright side". I'm actually a positivist but I know what it's like to have a completely different mindset too. And yeah, it does serve me well. It pisses off people who go "BUT KIDS IN AFRICA ARE STARVING!!!" Crapola.
Damn! I just can't keep up with this conversatuion. I understood you meant that no one's suffering should be berated or belittled because others have it worse.
So true or just think happy thoughts 'wow thank God you're around you should win the Nobel Peace Prize for that awesome advice' is all I think in my head when people tell me that
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I'm almost sure I saw someone say the same the other day around here. Either way, that's a great point, I'd never thought of it that way.
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I absolutely love this. I could never find a way to express my point of view on that before
Ya know, that's the second time I've seen you use that quote on this site and I gotta tell ya it's pretty fucking dumb. Why give yourself permission to be a miserable person? That's like saying it's okay to be a malcontent, ungrateful twat because your neighbor has a new car. Life is all about perspective. You can either focus on what you're fortunate enough to have compared to many people and be happy or focus on what you don't and be a whiny fuck. I choose to be grateful for a home, a job, plenty of food in the fridge, good friends, etc, etc, because many people around the world aren't so fortunate. There is no reward in negativity. Don't intellectualize yourself out of a beneficial perspective, out of a content existence.
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Does it matter how many times a single quote is used? I think not.
I don't agree with that. It's self-congratulatory. Why should you only go ra-ra-ra at what good has fallen into your lap? Isn't it at all possible to reflect upon the bad things that have happened as well? Or perhaps do you live in a world where bad things only happen to other people?
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Believe me, a lot bad has "fallen into my lap." And yes you can reflect on that as well. But that's not something I want to be at the forefront of my mind. If I was constantly thinking of the things I've been through I'd be an angry mother fucker. Look, everyone, myself included, is susceptible to sadness, I know that. Take that story I linked, the girl is contemplating suicide because her fucking iPod broke, her vacation was cancelled, and she was getting a little chubby. Those, in my opinion, are stupid ass reasons to want to die. If that was me I'd try to change my perspective on the issue. Try to find things that I can be grateful for. How about the fact that she has enough food to eat? Maybe that she has the resources to own an iPod? Or that her parents are of a socioeconomic class that can afford to plan a vacation in the first place? Or is this all too "self-congratulatory"?
You completely missed the point.
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Did I? You're saying telling someone to be happy because others have it worse is unhelpful, ineffective advice. The equivalent of telling someone they can't be happy because others have it better. If that's not what the quote suggest then please enlighten me.
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Hahahahaha I'm awfully sorry but I still don't get your point. And I already had coffee. Guess I'll have to wait till tomorrow.
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Oh, okay, I think I get it now. I just realized I don't agree. I think any comparisons are pointless. You should only compare your life and yourself to (ta-dah!!!) yourself!
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You're right. There doesn't have to be comparisons. If you're grateful for what you have instead of thinking of what you don't you'll be more content. Period. No comparisons to others necessary.
I'm not sure I just had more to drink than I should have or if this just doesn't make sense. Maybe tomorrow I'll understand. Haha
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Maybe this will help put it in context:
http://m.isitnormal.com/story/i-think-i-just-hit-rock-bottom-181480/?dl=comment-1821327
In that story a few people were telling the OP that her problems are comparatively petty. Then he basically says that telling her to cheer up because things could be worse is comparable to being sad because things could be better. Which is fucking stupid (see comment above) yeah... Read it tomorrow. Haha
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It's fucking stupid that you completely missed the point. Just because someone has it worse, doesn't make the problems of the one suffering any less valid. It's ok to be sad once in awhile. In fact, it's better than bottling all up until it explodes. We all get sad, it's called being human. There's nothing wrong with it. You remind me of a rude version of those overly positive hippie people who ignore every problem and force themselves to act like everything is alright 24/7.
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Ha. You think I don't have sympathy for sadness? That I think it's an intolerable feeling? You've misjudged me. I'm well aware of the spectrum of human emotion. This may be a shock to you but I have they ability to feel sadness too. But instead of wallowing in despair I choose to change my frame of mind. it's simple fucking psychology. This isn't about passive aggressive explosions, let's be real. it's simply a choice to be happier by reflecting on your blessings rather than what's lacking in your life, what you don't have. Hope your "favorite quote of all times" serves you well.
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Yeah well not everyone can just "look on the bright side". I'm actually a positivist but I know what it's like to have a completely different mindset too. And yeah, it does serve me well. It pisses off people who go "BUT KIDS IN AFRICA ARE STARVING!!!" Crapola.
Damn! I just can't keep up with this conversatuion. I understood you meant that no one's suffering should be berated or belittled because others have it worse.
Nope, still not dumb.
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I'm not going to further explain why that quote is a poor way of looking at things. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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I agree. =)
Oh, wait, you just did that in the link provided... I'm so so confused.
So true or just think happy thoughts 'wow thank God you're around you should win the Nobel Peace Prize for that awesome advice' is all I think in my head when people tell me that