"I'm just saying that people love to focus on the false accusations" I feel you were doing exactly that by focusing only on the rapes and discounting false accusations. Just like others only focus on false accusations and not real rapes. This was his whole point its always one side or the other. Women vs men. You were doing the same thing in reverse. Its all good though.
I know, I am going against what the OP is claiming to be about, but he did ask "In what cases are women in the western world treated unfairly in the law system?" which is why I brought up actual rape cases getting thrown out. I dont think it's a male vs female thing, but he made it that way, so i'm just calling out the hypocrisy.
That's not good either, and I would be for stricter penalties to deter rapists, when it is actually proven. But it's not a matter of what happens after. In law you have to make your mind, should it be possible to sentence someone based on an accusation with no actual proof? If you have to settle that question once for all I think the answer is obvious... And it especially would seem obvious (to most women also) if that actually went both ways and women can go to prison because a man accused them.
The problem with rape is a matter of dealing with individual rapists, there is neither a law or an overall culture for men to encourage or accept rape (unless you mean those crazy actually stereotype incels maybe, but most of society oppose them)
In cases where rape cases are "thrown away" as you say, is it due to lack of proof, or due to actual refusal to investigate?
You're looking at it way too simply. You think that someone can just call 911 and say "there's been a rape!" and the dude gets cuffed and stuffed instantly afterwards. You are one of these "according to the internet" guys you pretended to be against at the beginning of the post.
Another funny one is how you guys are quick to say things like "what was she wearing?" or "she should have chosen a nice guy like me!" in rape/abuse cases, but we never see about all these supposed false rape claims: "what did you do to make her mad?", "why did you choose a psycho?"
In other words it doesn't happen out of nowhere or to just anyone. Be smart and get to know someone before you stick your dick in them.
I never said it matters in the setting what she's wearing and it doesn't. Nor does it matter if she was angry at him for an unrelated reason. If the cases are nearly always properly investigated and nobody actually gets sentenced without proof that goes beyond the accusation then maybe I can change my mind on that a little. But how do people end up wrongfully convicted then?
By the way, I'm actually a woman and never said otherwise. Doesn't mean I have to side with my gender in every cause.
And maybe normalizing casual sex with strangers was a mistake on societies behalf, because you should be able to trust them among many other issue. I dont want to make it illegal still.
People end up wrongfully convicted for a lot of things. But it happens far less often than actual crimes. Point is you shouldn’t be siding with anyone based on gender. It’s a red herring.
I find it unreasonable how men and women hate each other
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"I'm just saying that people love to focus on the false accusations" I feel you were doing exactly that by focusing only on the rapes and discounting false accusations. Just like others only focus on false accusations and not real rapes. This was his whole point its always one side or the other. Women vs men. You were doing the same thing in reverse. Its all good though.
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I know, I am going against what the OP is claiming to be about, but he did ask "In what cases are women in the western world treated unfairly in the law system?" which is why I brought up actual rape cases getting thrown out. I dont think it's a male vs female thing, but he made it that way, so i'm just calling out the hypocrisy.
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That's not good either, and I would be for stricter penalties to deter rapists, when it is actually proven. But it's not a matter of what happens after. In law you have to make your mind, should it be possible to sentence someone based on an accusation with no actual proof? If you have to settle that question once for all I think the answer is obvious... And it especially would seem obvious (to most women also) if that actually went both ways and women can go to prison because a man accused them.
The problem with rape is a matter of dealing with individual rapists, there is neither a law or an overall culture for men to encourage or accept rape (unless you mean those crazy actually stereotype incels maybe, but most of society oppose them)
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You're looking at it way too simply. You think that someone can just call 911 and say "there's been a rape!" and the dude gets cuffed and stuffed instantly afterwards. You are one of these "according to the internet" guys you pretended to be against at the beginning of the post.
Another funny one is how you guys are quick to say things like "what was she wearing?" or "she should have chosen a nice guy like me!" in rape/abuse cases, but we never see about all these supposed false rape claims: "what did you do to make her mad?", "why did you choose a psycho?"
In other words it doesn't happen out of nowhere or to just anyone. Be smart and get to know someone before you stick your dick in them.
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I never said it matters in the setting what she's wearing and it doesn't. Nor does it matter if she was angry at him for an unrelated reason. If the cases are nearly always properly investigated and nobody actually gets sentenced without proof that goes beyond the accusation then maybe I can change my mind on that a little. But how do people end up wrongfully convicted then?
By the way, I'm actually a woman and never said otherwise. Doesn't mean I have to side with my gender in every cause.
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People end up wrongfully convicted for a lot of things. But it happens far less often than actual crimes. Point is you shouldn’t be siding with anyone based on gender. It’s a red herring.