I feel for you. I pulled myself out of my depression in May of 2009. I sold off all my investments, which were real estate. I'm not a financial wizard (just a fucking boat captain) and everyone advised investing in real estate; ha! "It's safe." they said! Ha, again.
So I cashed out at 10 cents on the dollar and bought my boat and an annuity. Ouch, but still the best move I could have made, I'm sure. Talk about depressing though!
You are right, of course, not everyone can do it alone. As you have noticed, I'm much more a "I challenge you to do it" or tough love sort of adviser on here. There are plenty of the other kind on IIN and they don't ever consider that perhaps a few may respond positively my challenge, they just spew hate at me for being insensitive and unsympathetic. Well that's life I guess, to be one of the most hated members for being honest and not following the "party line".
However much I am despised, I shall not compromise my opinions just to be liked.
Hey thanks for that gypsysailor and yeah, sometimes I think you're a bit insensitive but also challenging, which I do like. The effective counsellors I've had have been the ones who challenged me, ditto friends, who don't let me get away with any bullshit and support me in exactly that "tough love" sort of way. Sometimes, though, just having a good cry on a friend's shoulder and being patted and told I'm going to be ok is great too!
Are you really hated and despised? You've annoyed me at times but it's clear to me that you are honest and forthright which are valuable qualities in a world of superficial waffle and new age meanderings. Have you noticed that I too have been attacked for writing in a similar vein?
My least favourite piece of crap is the response by many wishy washy beige people that disagreeing with them is abuse, to which my standard response is that I know what verbal abuse is and I do know how to do it, but I choose not to ... unless of course they'd like a demonstration?
Bravo for the last sentence: I don't compromise my opinions either, for which I've often paid a high price, but I just can't do it.
I like that we can go from antagonists through a discussion to come out with a mutual understanding. It happens way too rarely on here. Usually I get personal attacks which only open the door for me to let fly with any stress relief I may need at the moment. Sometimes I wish I was a better person, but hey, we've all got to vent sometime, and I enjoy doing so if someone changes opinions to personal attacks. Small of me to be sure, but fun, none the less.
I'm sure we will butt heads again, but if we can keep it civil, we will either come to a mutual understanding or agree to disagree. Sound like a plan to you?
Sounds like a great plan to me, gypsysailor, I look forward to that. Even when we've disagreed very strongly, at least I usually knew what you were on about, which is refreshing on here where so many people are illogical, inconsistent or just plain incomprehensible.
Cranky questioners of the world unite, I say, even when they don't always agree with each other
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I feel for you. I pulled myself out of my depression in May of 2009. I sold off all my investments, which were real estate. I'm not a financial wizard (just a fucking boat captain) and everyone advised investing in real estate; ha! "It's safe." they said! Ha, again.
So I cashed out at 10 cents on the dollar and bought my boat and an annuity. Ouch, but still the best move I could have made, I'm sure. Talk about depressing though!
You are right, of course, not everyone can do it alone. As you have noticed, I'm much more a "I challenge you to do it" or tough love sort of adviser on here. There are plenty of the other kind on IIN and they don't ever consider that perhaps a few may respond positively my challenge, they just spew hate at me for being insensitive and unsympathetic. Well that's life I guess, to be one of the most hated members for being honest and not following the "party line".
However much I am despised, I shall not compromise my opinions just to be liked.
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Hey thanks for that gypsysailor and yeah, sometimes I think you're a bit insensitive but also challenging, which I do like. The effective counsellors I've had have been the ones who challenged me, ditto friends, who don't let me get away with any bullshit and support me in exactly that "tough love" sort of way. Sometimes, though, just having a good cry on a friend's shoulder and being patted and told I'm going to be ok is great too!
Are you really hated and despised? You've annoyed me at times but it's clear to me that you are honest and forthright which are valuable qualities in a world of superficial waffle and new age meanderings. Have you noticed that I too have been attacked for writing in a similar vein?
My least favourite piece of crap is the response by many wishy washy beige people that disagreeing with them is abuse, to which my standard response is that I know what verbal abuse is and I do know how to do it, but I choose not to ... unless of course they'd like a demonstration?
Bravo for the last sentence: I don't compromise my opinions either, for which I've often paid a high price, but I just can't do it.
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I like that we can go from antagonists through a discussion to come out with a mutual understanding. It happens way too rarely on here. Usually I get personal attacks which only open the door for me to let fly with any stress relief I may need at the moment. Sometimes I wish I was a better person, but hey, we've all got to vent sometime, and I enjoy doing so if someone changes opinions to personal attacks. Small of me to be sure, but fun, none the less.
I'm sure we will butt heads again, but if we can keep it civil, we will either come to a mutual understanding or agree to disagree. Sound like a plan to you?
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Sounds like a great plan to me, gypsysailor, I look forward to that. Even when we've disagreed very strongly, at least I usually knew what you were on about, which is refreshing on here where so many people are illogical, inconsistent or just plain incomprehensible.
Cranky questioners of the world unite, I say, even when they don't always agree with each other