The difference between can and can not is only 3 letters, and those 3 letters determine your life's direction.
You can have a life, if you choose to. You can not if you so choose.
Your choice.
While I do agree with you at some extent, this mentality is incredibly hard to see from the perspective of a depressed person. In my opinion,to be able to choose to go ahead in life one must have hope.
I spent many years alone and at survival level; day to day. One day I tired of it and got off my ass and refused to allow the depression to rule me any longer.
No doctor or medication can do it for someone.
As I said, "The difference between can and can not is only 3 letters, and those 3 letters determine your life's direction." Three silly little letters. To wake one morning and not allow those three letters to rule one any longer. It's not easy, but life was never guarantied to be easy.
You really don't understand the nature of depression in my opinion. Both meds and therapy have helped me come back to who I am... happy and hopeful. You certainly shouldn't be discouraging someone who says they feel hopeless from getting help. We all need help sometimes and we can't always help ourselves.
Thanks again sillygirl. It seems like the last eight years of my life have gone downhill. Marriage gone, family issues, job loss, like Im having to start over completely in middle age. Im so scared. I feel like Im fighting alone. Thank you so much for your kindness.
18 years of depression and I don't understand it?
That's quite a statement.
But hey, whatever works for you, right. But the meds and doctors can not make yo change; only you can choose to do it.
Most often the meds only cover up the symptoms; they certainly are not a cure, even you must understand that.
I don't doubt that you'd understand your own depression after 18 years of it, but that doesn't mean you understand anyone else's.
I've had depression off and on for most of my life and have learnt that sometimes I just CAN'T move out of it and need some therapy type help, but never medication as I hate being more lethargic and apathetic than I already am.
It's taken me years to get to a point where I can tell myself "this will pass" because it always has, and to know that I will get so bored with being miserable I'll find some tiny way out of it and then built on that.
I have been very lucky in my life to have found good counsellors at different times when I needed them, and learned a long time ago to avoid the pill pushers and the quick fix therapists.
I wish OP luck in whatever search h/she undertakes to move out of depression, because it's a boring and pointless waste of what I believe is our only life.
You need to give yourself more credit. YOU did what was necessary to control your depression, not your therapists. They may have set you on the path, but they could no more MAKE you change than they could fix you. You are responsible for your successes, just like you would be for your failures.
Also, you understood that the meds were a futile avenue and refused to be seduced by them. Most do not and waste their life in a fog.
I agree with Ellenna. You can't generalize your experiences with others and many people do benefit from help. Who are you to suggest the OP doesn't try to get it?
I am someone who understands that no doctor can MAKE a patient well. Only the patient can choose to get well. Since 99% of the mental health providers in the US are just pill pushers and don't care half as much about their patients recovery as they do about a steady income, the last suggestion I will make is to suggest professional help first.
If you read my comments on this site, there are some who I suggest should seek therapy, others, not so much.
But absolutely the FIRST place most should start is in their own mind and see if they can effect a change for the best.
Is that so awful?
Lots of truth in this statement. While everyone's situation is different, in the end no one can save you except you. People who say they have no control over their depression might be right, but that's only because they truly believe that. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. "The person who says they can, and the person who says they can't, are both usually right."
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While I do agree with you at some extent, this mentality is incredibly hard to see from the perspective of a depressed person. In my opinion,to be able to choose to go ahead in life one must have hope.
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I spent many years alone and at survival level; day to day. One day I tired of it and got off my ass and refused to allow the depression to rule me any longer.
No doctor or medication can do it for someone.
As I said, "The difference between can and can not is only 3 letters, and those 3 letters determine your life's direction." Three silly little letters. To wake one morning and not allow those three letters to rule one any longer. It's not easy, but life was never guarantied to be easy.
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You really don't understand the nature of depression in my opinion. Both meds and therapy have helped me come back to who I am... happy and hopeful. You certainly shouldn't be discouraging someone who says they feel hopeless from getting help. We all need help sometimes and we can't always help ourselves.
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*hugs* Fleetline. I hope you can find hope again. It sounds very painful.
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18 years of depression and I don't understand it?
That's quite a statement.
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I don't doubt that you'd understand your own depression after 18 years of it, but that doesn't mean you understand anyone else's.
I've had depression off and on for most of my life and have learnt that sometimes I just CAN'T move out of it and need some therapy type help, but never medication as I hate being more lethargic and apathetic than I already am.
It's taken me years to get to a point where I can tell myself "this will pass" because it always has, and to know that I will get so bored with being miserable I'll find some tiny way out of it and then built on that.
I have been very lucky in my life to have found good counsellors at different times when I needed them, and learned a long time ago to avoid the pill pushers and the quick fix therapists.
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You need to give yourself more credit. YOU did what was necessary to control your depression, not your therapists. They may have set you on the path, but they could no more MAKE you change than they could fix you. You are responsible for your successes, just like you would be for your failures.
Also, you understood that the meds were a futile avenue and refused to be seduced by them. Most do not and waste their life in a fog.
I'm glad you've found good counselors. Personally, meds don't make me feel lethargic at all, but everyone reacts differently.
I agree with Ellenna. You can't generalize your experiences with others and many people do benefit from help. Who are you to suggest the OP doesn't try to get it?
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I am someone who understands that no doctor can MAKE a patient well. Only the patient can choose to get well. Since 99% of the mental health providers in the US are just pill pushers and don't care half as much about their patients recovery as they do about a steady income, the last suggestion I will make is to suggest professional help first.
If you read my comments on this site, there are some who I suggest should seek therapy, others, not so much.
But absolutely the FIRST place most should start is in their own mind and see if they can effect a change for the best.
Is that so awful?
Lots of truth in this statement. While everyone's situation is different, in the end no one can save you except you. People who say they have no control over their depression might be right, but that's only because they truly believe that. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. "The person who says they can, and the person who says they can't, are both usually right."