I have argued that atheism is a religion; it is a belief. You were told to believe; so you did. You didn't like what you believed, but you believed it anyway. since you were told to. As you grew older, you became more independent, thinking, "Maybe, since I don't like what I believe, it's wrong." You then used this logic to reject what you previously believed, becoming an agnostic, due to your lack of knowledge of other religions. Then, when looking up the scientists, you found out that they had their own religion: a belief in the falsehood of other religions. Their religion was then offered to you as an option for you to believe. You chose to believe it, and you still believe it to this day. The agnostics are those who were never told to believe.
I figured you would say that, but again, I can't choose what to believe. There are other religions that I think it would be beyond fantastic to learn were true. If my mind worked that way I would be scouring for information supporting them as they're way preferable to my atheist reality. Being an atheist is not comforting at all.
Religion is expressly about worship and/or faith. Science expressly rejects faith. Nothing is considered hard science until it's beyond the point of faith. Faith is illogical. Contrary to what most theists seem to believe, hard science doesn't even claim to yet know how the universe started with 100% accuracy yet. We do know that the expansion of the universe and cosmic background radiation certainly seem to imply there's over a 99% certainly a Big Bang event occurred. We have very little clue what prompted it or if a prompt is required.
We do how the Earth was formed. We know its age. We don't know with 100% certainty where the moon came from although we've narrowed it down.
See how science is about evidence? There's no room for faith. It's not a belief system. It's a knowledge system. If we don't yet know something, we don't yet know. But when we know, we know because we outright prove it. Unfortunately for religion, we do now know enough that happens to contradict most of religion's claims.
These are not things I'm told to believe but things I understand and can't unsee. I wish I could so that I could join a religion I like but the fact is I've seen what I've seen and as my brain doesn't work in a faulty way that allows belief without evidence, it for damned sure doesn't allow belief /contrary/ to evidence, which is just insane.
The foundation of atheism is science and the encompassed /knowledge/ of things which directly contradict religion, not mere faith that religions are wrong.
There is nothing that proves religion wrong, just as there is nothing that proves religion correct. It's all based on faith in one's thoughts of the correct religion.
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I have argued that atheism is a religion; it is a belief. You were told to believe; so you did. You didn't like what you believed, but you believed it anyway. since you were told to. As you grew older, you became more independent, thinking, "Maybe, since I don't like what I believe, it's wrong." You then used this logic to reject what you previously believed, becoming an agnostic, due to your lack of knowledge of other religions. Then, when looking up the scientists, you found out that they had their own religion: a belief in the falsehood of other religions. Their religion was then offered to you as an option for you to believe. You chose to believe it, and you still believe it to this day. The agnostics are those who were never told to believe.
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I figured you would say that, but again, I can't choose what to believe. There are other religions that I think it would be beyond fantastic to learn were true. If my mind worked that way I would be scouring for information supporting them as they're way preferable to my atheist reality. Being an atheist is not comforting at all.
Religion is expressly about worship and/or faith. Science expressly rejects faith. Nothing is considered hard science until it's beyond the point of faith. Faith is illogical. Contrary to what most theists seem to believe, hard science doesn't even claim to yet know how the universe started with 100% accuracy yet. We do know that the expansion of the universe and cosmic background radiation certainly seem to imply there's over a 99% certainly a Big Bang event occurred. We have very little clue what prompted it or if a prompt is required.
We do how the Earth was formed. We know its age. We don't know with 100% certainty where the moon came from although we've narrowed it down.
See how science is about evidence? There's no room for faith. It's not a belief system. It's a knowledge system. If we don't yet know something, we don't yet know. But when we know, we know because we outright prove it. Unfortunately for religion, we do now know enough that happens to contradict most of religion's claims.
These are not things I'm told to believe but things I understand and can't unsee. I wish I could so that I could join a religion I like but the fact is I've seen what I've seen and as my brain doesn't work in a faulty way that allows belief without evidence, it for damned sure doesn't allow belief /contrary/ to evidence, which is just insane.
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I am not arguing that science is a religion; I'm arguing that atheism is a religion. Atheists have faith that all other religions are false.
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The foundation of atheism is science and the encompassed /knowledge/ of things which directly contradict religion, not mere faith that religions are wrong.
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There is nothing that proves religion wrong, just as there is nothing that proves religion correct. It's all based on faith in one's thoughts of the correct religion.
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There are things which prove fundamental aspects of it wrong though.
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If you want to make that argument, make it; don't just claim it to be true. What are these things that prove the concept of religion wrong?