Lol I do, he no understand big words. Ive seen bits and pieces. Basically, he says burden of proof is on you despite him being the one making claims, you more than fully address it anyway and then he either just flat out says "Your wrong" or "Im not reading that" then says something else uninformed.
Sorry to hear that, and no need to be rude about it. In what way was I impossible to debate? I'll try to work on it. I don't want to be annoying or unapproachable.
Well it's not entirely your fault. Its just a problem when you have political motivations giving you a preconceived notion. Also I don't know if you understand the burden of proof concept. In this case, if your claiming someone with a penis can compete fairly with women that goes against the way things have been set before so you need to prove it's fair rather than me proving its not fair. The one other issue I had is that you didn't want any of my sources because their biased and then you sent me a bunch of super liberal sources.
> you have political motivations giving you a preconceived notion
I mean, so did you, and so does everybody else on the planet. We can't help being biased, we can only try to avoid letting it influence our rational thinking. I try my best, but of course, I'm not perfect. It's part of being human.
> Also I don't know if you understand the burden of proof concept. In this case, if your claiming someone with a penis can compete fairly with women that goes against the way things have been set before so you need to prove it's fair rather than me proving its not fair.
Sure, and I tried to throughout the course of the debate. That's kind of the idea.
> The one other issue I had is that you didn't want any of my sources because their biased
Mostly because they didn't actually cite any data or scientific research in general that I can find, actually, but maybe I missed something.
Your sources being biased doesn't mean they're automatically wrong, not unless one can make a compelling argument that the bias is harming the validity of the claims being made (which, sometimes, is the case).
> and then you sent me a bunch of super liberal sources
I agree that the non-scientific articles I linked were generally from left-leaning sources, but I did try to check them on Media Bias to make sure their ability to report facts was not compromised by their liberalness. Also, those were more analytics / explanations than evidence.
My main piece of evidence, a recent systematic review of multiple scientific studies (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs40279-016-0621-y), is not biased (that I am aware of). You certainly haven't made such an argument, or actually, acknowledged that it existed at all. The same is true for the other study I listed. Explaining why something is unreliable is one thing, ignoring it is another.
I'm not trying to be hostile, I just want to get to the bottom of it. I enjoy working on my debate skills. I hope you have a nice day!
Well at least your being nicer about It than most people, but still the answer to me is painfully obvious. I have seen enough people with dicks beat the shit out of real women to know that it's at least POSSIBLE that there is an advantage. And if it's even possible that there is, then they should not be allowed to compete. You realize that in some federations you don't even have to do hormones! It's possible that after a shit ton of hormones it may be close enough to fair but my point is that there is jo way for sure, and the benefit of the doubt should be given to the real women getting their ass kicked.
So would you think it's fair if I grew out my hair and competed as a woman a MONTH from now in powerlifting with no hormones? Because where I compete in powerlifting, I could actually do this if I felt like a woman. I would beat every record by over 100 pounds, that's at least 20% better. If you think THAT is fair, than idk what to tell you.
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Some definently are, but certainly not all. I know people.
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I'm rather interesting as well. If you stick around on iin a while you can find out.
I agree.
Also, are you planning to continue our earlier debate? or are you dropping it?
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Lol "your impossible to debate" aka "you have a different opinion and my brain cant handle it your wrong" I'd say youre the winner here
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Your like my nemesis lol. I could care less what ya'll think really I know I'm right.
Tell that to Doesnormalmatter, lol. Also, did you see the debate?
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Lol I do, he no understand big words. Ive seen bits and pieces. Basically, he says burden of proof is on you despite him being the one making claims, you more than fully address it anyway and then he either just flat out says "Your wrong" or "Im not reading that" then says something else uninformed.
I'm dropping it now sftu about it. I didn't reply to you for a reason your impossible to debate.
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Sorry to hear that, and no need to be rude about it. In what way was I impossible to debate? I'll try to work on it. I don't want to be annoying or unapproachable.
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Well it's not entirely your fault. Its just a problem when you have political motivations giving you a preconceived notion. Also I don't know if you understand the burden of proof concept. In this case, if your claiming someone with a penis can compete fairly with women that goes against the way things have been set before so you need to prove it's fair rather than me proving its not fair. The one other issue I had is that you didn't want any of my sources because their biased and then you sent me a bunch of super liberal sources.
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> you have political motivations giving you a preconceived notion
I mean, so did you, and so does everybody else on the planet. We can't help being biased, we can only try to avoid letting it influence our rational thinking. I try my best, but of course, I'm not perfect. It's part of being human.
> Also I don't know if you understand the burden of proof concept. In this case, if your claiming someone with a penis can compete fairly with women that goes against the way things have been set before so you need to prove it's fair rather than me proving its not fair.
Sure, and I tried to throughout the course of the debate. That's kind of the idea.
> The one other issue I had is that you didn't want any of my sources because their biased
Mostly because they didn't actually cite any data or scientific research in general that I can find, actually, but maybe I missed something.
Your sources being biased doesn't mean they're automatically wrong, not unless one can make a compelling argument that the bias is harming the validity of the claims being made (which, sometimes, is the case).
> and then you sent me a bunch of super liberal sources
I agree that the non-scientific articles I linked were generally from left-leaning sources, but I did try to check them on Media Bias to make sure their ability to report facts was not compromised by their liberalness. Also, those were more analytics / explanations than evidence.
My main piece of evidence, a recent systematic review of multiple scientific studies (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs40279-016-0621-y), is not biased (that I am aware of). You certainly haven't made such an argument, or actually, acknowledged that it existed at all. The same is true for the other study I listed. Explaining why something is unreliable is one thing, ignoring it is another.
I'm not trying to be hostile, I just want to get to the bottom of it. I enjoy working on my debate skills. I hope you have a nice day!
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Well at least your being nicer about It than most people, but still the answer to me is painfully obvious. I have seen enough people with dicks beat the shit out of real women to know that it's at least POSSIBLE that there is an advantage. And if it's even possible that there is, then they should not be allowed to compete. You realize that in some federations you don't even have to do hormones! It's possible that after a shit ton of hormones it may be close enough to fair but my point is that there is jo way for sure, and the benefit of the doubt should be given to the real women getting their ass kicked.
So would you think it's fair if I grew out my hair and competed as a woman a MONTH from now in powerlifting with no hormones? Because where I compete in powerlifting, I could actually do this if I felt like a woman. I would beat every record by over 100 pounds, that's at least 20% better. If you think THAT is fair, than idk what to tell you.