How long is too long to wait? is it normal to wait this long?

I got out of a 4 year relationship about a year ago. Long story short, I fell into the abyss that was my first year of med school. I was essentially replaced with one of the men in her online stables. I'm not saying it is her fault, as I am to blame as well. I suppose if I could do things over I wish she could have seen I was setting up 'our' future or that I would have been able to articulate this to her. I now find myself back on the dating scene . . .

Ahh, online dating . . . for those individuals that have no time and can only find suitable dates online? I gravitated to online dating because I do not (1) want to date a med student(too much in common) and (2) I am not getting any younger (30 year old male). . .

Those matching profiles must be superbly accurate . . . or not. How many dates did I go on? I believe at least twenty. Twenty different women that I carved out time and money for to take out. Is it a 'true match' when the woman across from me begins speaking of babies on a first date? How about the lady that suggests to go out on several dates to, mind you, expensive locales just to disappear off the face of the Earth? How about women who show up and are 10 years older, 10 years younger, and/or 75 pounds heavier than how they describe their self online? Or women insurmountably inseparable to the exact date you graduate med school and when you set up residence . . .there not digging for gold. . . they like me for me?

I'm not a monster and I'm not an ass. I'm simply looking for a girl that has healthy life style habits and is sincere. Mind you, you can be a 'chunky monkey' and exponentially healthier than Miss Twiggy. Health, within reason, is not tied to a number on a scale. Also important is like interests. My 'profile' is not lying to 'woo' potential females. . . Nor it there to be disregarded. . . to share a common core in which a foundation can be developed would be nice.

And then I finally met the lady to whom this post is dedicated. She is older than me, by one year, and is my (as I see it) 'chunky little monkey.' I prefer, in honesty, a little extra to grab a hold of . . and health is important to her as she realizes it and is/has been making steps to improve it by being active in conjunction with a better diet.

But . . .we have now been courting for almost 6 months. I have met her parents. I have been on many dates with her to anywhere you can imagine. I try to make time to be with her the best I can considering my time constraints and current situation in life (I make time, a lesson I learned from my scarred heart). But here in lies the problem . . . we have not been romantically intimate. Mind you, this is not what I am 'looking for.' It is, though, I feel, a part of any healthy relationship.

Is this normal? I am physically within the norms, I am 'in shape', I try to do right by her and show affection but I seem to get nowhere. Is it because she does not like sex? Is it because she is dealing with past issues? Is it because she does not like me? What is normal for a 30 year old female to wait to have sex with a suitor? Is it six months?

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  • Add all the letters of your first and middle name - if its two digits add those two numbers together. Multiply the sum by the number of your birth month and count the days 'til the rains come and add that number to your sum-this is the number of Weeks you must wait for sex with chunky monkey.

    Or you could just, you know, ask her. Most women have a reasonable explanation for such things.

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  • too long didn't read

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  • Holy shit guy, I gotta drop a knowledge bomb on your ass:

    1. Your problem is you :

    You sound like a good person looking for a real relationship which is great but you don't seem to have a clue about what girls/women are and want.

    YOU'RE THE MALE. YOU'RE EXPECTED TO LEAD AND SEDUCE THE FEMALES(S).
    They want and expect that. Guys who don't do it become the 'friend'.
    Listen up, GIRLS WANT TO GET FUCKED.

    You taking 6 months to do anything with this girl is completely retarded.
    NO GIRL 'dates' a guy for 6 months and 'waits' for him thinking 'OH, he's just a great guy taking his time to get to know me.'
    BULLSHIT.

    I fuck girls the first night I meet them and that's what they want.

    Stop being a pussy and learn to put moves on girls so you immediately know if they are potential mates or just a friend.
    If she turns you down GREAT! She just did you a favor because now you don't have to waste months of your life wrongly thinking she's going to be your girlfriend or wife some day.

    The truth is girls are like busses:

    There's a new one showing up every 15 minutes. So don't even get heartbroken that some girl you aren't even in a relationship with doesn't want you.

    Reach between your legs and find your balls and realize you're a male.
    Stop being a pussy.

    2. You generally should not spend any money on a girl you don't even know yet. You've mentioned you take these girls out to fancy dinners, etc. and you don't even know them.
    STOP THAT.
    STOP BEING A WUSSY SUCKER / PUSHOVER.
    Girls don't respect that and they often view that as a needy guy which is a total turn off.
    Why the hell would/should you take a complete stranger out to a fancy dinner or spend a lot of money on them? It's stupid. I realize you're trying to be nice and considerate but don't do it. It makes you look weak, desperate and pathetic.
    So what happens is when you take out these girls to a nice dinner trying to impress them you're probably very boring. So some disappear and others use you for fancy dinners while they're thinking about and are screwing someone else.

    Girl don't respect a desperate sucker. What you're telling them is your time/energy (you) is worthless and you're so pathetic they have no reason to respect or value you.

    STOP IT.

    Dude. Go do something fun with a girl that doesn't cost a lot of money. Money doesn't impress good girls. Believe it or not girls would rather do something fun and exciting than sit in a boring fancy dinner.
    Go hiking, take a walk, go get coffee and learn how to flirt with them and have fun.
    It really doesn't matter what it is you are doing, they don't care. It's YOU that needs to be fun and interesting to them.

    I think I've taken a girl to dinner less than 2 times in my entire life and I generally don't spend a dime on them and I get laid and get girlfriends all the time.

    Girls are looking for excitement, fun and sexy adventure from a man.
    Not some boring dull person to waste their time.

    From the way you write you sound like a good person that is totally introverted and boring. You can easily fix that.

    Don't try to be 'James Bond' all quiet and sophisticated. That's movie bullshit that might get you laid but girls get bored of that really fast.

    Be honest with yourself. You complain you have 'no time' for a relationship and that's total BS. EVERYONE has time to date and be in a relationship if that's what they want. Stop using excuses for you not being a more fun and interesting person.

    99% of girls aren't going to marry a boring guy (why would they?). That doesn't get their pussies wet. And if they do marry a boring guy usually it's because he has money and they'll cheat on him.

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  • After six months, why can you still not talk to her about how you feel?

    "I'm not a monster and I'm not an ass." That's your problem right there. You're courting her too slowly. It might be too late to fix things.

    You have to be bolder. Make her feel desired sexually. You said she's on the fat side of healthy. Maybe she has issues with that.

    Flatter her, before some fly guy steals her away. And I don't mean write her poems or that other beta sh't. She's not a statue. She's a woman, flesh and blood.

    If it doesn't work out then so be it. Let grief be a fallen leaf. Time is too precious to piss it away like you're both doing.

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  • ask her about it!!!!!!!!

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  • too much talking not enough kissing

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  • Yeah...this sounds like a strange situation. It might be time to have the talk but know that moving to a point of no intimacy to some intimacy is going to be weird and will most likely end in you two going separate ways. The talk is...being just straight up honest and asking her what's what? What are you guys? Are you dating? Are you friends? 6 months and no intimacy? Do you guys kiss? If not...You may be her best friend in the whole wide world that will never see her chach. If you kiss...then I'm just confused.

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  • I am one of those girls, that would make a guy wait. The unlike some people on here the OP sounds like he wants a real and meaningful relationship and you are doing just fine. Being a gentleman. That is really what Women want. The only reason I might think of is, she wants to wait to know if this is for real, or not. like if this is long term or not. That's what I would do anyway. It is a good idea to talk with her about that.just to see what is holding her back. Good luck. I hope it works out.

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  • Suck her Father off first and see what you think about...let us know on here you kinky fucker...

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  • "I got out of a 4 year relationship about a year ago. Long story short, I fell into the abyss that was my first year of med school. I was essentially replaced with one of the men in her online stables. I'm not saying it is her fault, as I am to blame as well. I suppose if I could do things over I wish she could have seen I was setting up 'our' future or that I would have been able to articulate this to her. I now find myself back on the dating scene . . ."

    Not sure if you do this on your dates but just to let you know NEVER talk about your ex-girlfriend to another girl on a date.
    No girl wants to hear that bullshit and they'll think you're still stuck on her then they'll immediately rule you out and say bye bye.

    "Those matching profiles must be superbly accurate . . . or not. "

    Matching has very little to do with attraction. Learn to be attractive and the girls 'type' doesn't matter.

    "Twenty different women that I carved out time and money for to take out."
    As I wrote you're doing it wrong. Don't take a girl out on a fancy dinner you don't even know.
    Meet her for coffee or a walk, or some common interest.

    "Is it a 'true match' when the woman across from me begins speaking of babies on a first date?"
    It has nothing to do with a true match but that doesn't mean it isn't a true match or she's a bad person.
    She's just letting you know her overall roadmap and life plans and relationship expectations and she's testing you/feeling you out to see if you fit her qualifications for a mate and her goals.

    "How about the lady that suggests to go out on several dates to, mind you, expensive locales just to disappear off the face of the Earth? "

    Are you really in med school? Damn dude. Stop being so naive.
    If a girl suggests to go out on several expensive dates you should say "Great! that sounds like fun WHERE ARE YOU TAKING ME? :)"

    "How about women who show up and are 10 years older, 10 years younger, and/or 75 pounds heavier than how they describe their self online?"
    It's being dishonest, I wouldn't trust them.

    "Or women insurmountably inseparable to the exact date you graduate med school and when you set up residence . . .there not digging for gold. . . they like me for me?"

    Holy cow. No dude I don't think those girls really like you. It sounds like they want a free ride.

    Btw, if you really want to help people you should forget med school and get into alternative healing/therapies.
    Med school is a bunch of BS and basically you'll either be a pill pusher for big pharma or you'll be a butcher cutting people open and removing things from their bodies.

    I'd also suggest you start dating women from different countries because American women are often dishonest, spoiled and selfish. Women from other countries are more sincere, more giving and they usually appreciate what their man does for them. They are often poorer so they really appreciate everything you do for them rather than expect you to buy them fancy dinners or jewelry, etc. You can find beautiful foreign women everywhere from many different countries. They also would LOVE to marry an American guy and have American children.

    "Also important is like interests. My 'profile' is not lying to 'woo' potential females. . . Nor it there to be disregarded. . . to share a common core in which a foundation can be developed would be nice. "
    Yes, that's why you should start participating in online/in person meetings of whatever you like.
    For example, if you like wine then join a wine forum and go to their meetings to meet a girl with similar interests.

    "Is this normal? I am physically within the norms, I am 'in shape', I try to do right by her and show affection but I seem to get nowhere. Is it because she does not like sex? Is it because she is dealing with past issues? Is it because she does not like me? What is normal for a 30 year old female to wait to have sex with a suitor? Is it six months?"

    Dude. Did you just pop out of your mother's vagina and were born yesterday?
    NO IT'S NOT NORMAL. GIRLS IN THEIR 30'S LOVE FUCKING!
    Typically a girl's sex drive goes into overtime in their late 20's and 30's. That's their sexual peak man.
    The reason why nothing's happened is because you're not making it happen.
    This girl may not even know you want her sexually.
    I can't believe you man you pay/take this girl all over for 6 months and you or she hasn't even jumped on each other?
    Girls jump on me the first night I meet them or definitely the 2nd meeting I have with them.
    You're clearly doing it wrong if you're trying to court this girl.

    GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD:
    GIRLS LOVE TO GET SEDUCED AND GET FUCKED. That's a huge reason they're spending time with males because we have dicks and they feel great inside them.

    Were you raised by a woman? Mother ? Grandmother?
    Someone did a number on your head and you have no idea what girls want or need from a male.

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  • you need to have a serious discussion with her ASAP. six months is too long, and you don't want to waste anymore time just to find out later you're not sexually compatible, do you? just a thought...

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  • As others have said, women expects men to take the first step when it comes to intimacy.

    Do you guys kiss and hug?

    The thing is that after six months together you should have been able to talk about these sort of things with her. If there is an underlying cause that makes her steer clear of sexual activities you need to know this.

    And she can also be very self concious about her body and her appearance, I have heard of many women who really don't wish to have sex simply because they aren't comfortable with the way they look.

    I'd say that six months of dating and no sex yet shows me that you have been patient, but maybe a bit too patient? Maybe she's wondering about the very same things as you do?

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  • You are scarred, picky and looking for an intimate and sexual relationship. One wants to say, take what you can get because beggars cant be choosers.

    Otherwise, maybe she just isn't ready yet. If she's 30 and your 29, sounds like she wants to take her time, make that first intimate moment special (so that she knows she isnt just wasting her time).

    You definitely aren't trying to waste yours.

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  • Maybe just ask her, and I believe that when it is the right time, it will happen. Or perhaps she's waiting for you to make that first move.

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  • TL;DR OP wants to get laid by his girlfriend

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