I feel like a lot of confusion comes from the word "normal".
When people say "being gay is normal" they mean that it isn't something freaky and disgusting that should be shamed by society. It is love between two people, and no one should be against two consenting adults doing things with each other.
Technically, homosexuality is also not "normal".
There is only a small percentage of the population that identifies as gay (or any of the LGBT+) so technically it is not "in the norm".
As for your comment about it not being in nature, I have to take offense to that. What are you using to ask this question? A computer, most likely. Is that in nature?
What about clothing, or books, or sex toys, or whatever else you can think of?
You shouldn't be repulsed by something simply because it is not "in nature".
(Other animals are gay too. Penguins, lions, rams, etc.)
Please check out the link below for a video that debunks all your "it's just wrong" arguments":
https://youtu.be/5iXA_0MED98
Im not repulsed and I don't wish them ill will. I think it's an affliction. And I do not believe it is just completely normal
But hearing opinions and insights of others is very critical. People don't just talk about this Out Loud in public. And there are ALOT of people who don't buy into "homosexuality is normal" discussion.
They just don't say it. You can insult them or act superior and pious all you want. Act as if you are more "evolved" all you like. But that won't change anything . That never had changed anything
You don't even bother to explain how homosexuality is an "affliction." Until you do, your argument is invalid.
I even explained how people use the word "normal" in different ways yet you can't even address that.
Congrats.
No I hear you.
the first thing I do say about the Animal Kingdom comparison, which many people cite now when speaking of homosexuality, is that I think God created holistically different from animals. We are not animals. Animals, from a creationist standpoint, are not on the same level as human beings. They are not.
I do not believe in Darwanism and I am not an Evolutionist. Things do EVOLVE, but not I do not buy into Evolution
We as humans are different entirely. Creates special and apart from animals. I do not know exactly how one becomes a homosexual . I have no interest in condemning them or bashing them. But I do not think homosexuality is what was intended. I frankly find it a total question worth gathering thoughts on. I do not think they were created that way. I know I believe that much. I cannot explain why a 4 yr shows proclivities for it. I don't know why you can tell from the time some kids are 7 that they already have a propensity for that misidentification. Maybe it is a natural breakdown of lifestyle from one generation to the next as we are continually bringing kids into the world in many homes, certainly not all, whom don't have proper role models or only one parent
I don't know. I jus my know that I am not dumb. I am well learned. Which doesn't mean anything in terms of having an evolved mind. I don't accept the premise that only "evolved" minds accept homosexuality and if you don't, the you are thereby myopic.
That is nonsense.
I am saying I don't think homosexually is biologically correct. I think it's a misidentification somehow that does start at a young age.
I'm not saying they had anyway of knowing any better at that age.
I am a recovered alcoholic. I was simply almost primed for alcohol. I never ever ever ever drank alcohol without getting drunk. Not once. Not even when I was younger. I always had the Phenomenon of Craving. Always. I didn't become full alcoholic until my mid20s. I went from 17 until 25 without drinking a drop. By the time I was 32 , I was hospitalized
But I know I wasn't created an alcoholc by God. It's not on Him
I know that much. And I know there are many many MANY other societal ills to harp on aside from homosexuality. But just as a topic you cannot easily address in everyday life, it's worth discussing here
But I do not think it is biologically correct. And I do not think it is right. But I do not believe I should condemn them either
I just don't believe what mainstream society is trying to promote about it either
I do not. It's not a fist pounding insistence that IT IS JUST WRONG. I don't have to have fist pound Nothing like that
I calmly believe just aside from All The Dialogue that it is incorrect. (Let's drop the world 'normal'"
I don't even know where to start.
Homosexuality and alcoholism isn't a good comparison.
Two consenting adults find one another attractive and start a relationship with one another. They become romantically and sexually involved with one another.
How is that comparable to a horrible addiction?
Do you understand how ridiculous and insulting that would be if people treated straight couples the way they do homosexuals? Comparing a "traditional" marriage to a horrible crippling addiction?
I am seriously doubting that you don't condemn them.
You compared it to a horrible condition; if that isn't directly condemning, you are definitely implying it.
You are telling homosexual people that the way they are is WRONG and that they are WRONG for doing this.
CONDEMNING IS EXPRESSING YOUR DISAPPROVAL OF SOMETHING.That is exactly what you are doing!
You just seem to be doing this because you are disgusted with another type of human being, and so you think that you can justify those feelings by attaching all these words like "unnatural" to it.
You think that these people are wrong to exist as they are.
THESE PEOPLE DO NOT AFFECT YOUR LIFE. WHY ARE YOU SO CONCERNED WITH WHO THEY LOVE?
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I feel like a lot of confusion comes from the word "normal".
When people say "being gay is normal" they mean that it isn't something freaky and disgusting that should be shamed by society. It is love between two people, and no one should be against two consenting adults doing things with each other.
Technically, homosexuality is also not "normal".
There is only a small percentage of the population that identifies as gay (or any of the LGBT+) so technically it is not "in the norm".
As for your comment about it not being in nature, I have to take offense to that. What are you using to ask this question? A computer, most likely. Is that in nature?
What about clothing, or books, or sex toys, or whatever else you can think of?
You shouldn't be repulsed by something simply because it is not "in nature".
(Other animals are gay too. Penguins, lions, rams, etc.)
Please check out the link below for a video that debunks all your "it's just wrong" arguments":
https://youtu.be/5iXA_0MED98
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Im not repulsed and I don't wish them ill will. I think it's an affliction. And I do not believe it is just completely normal
But hearing opinions and insights of others is very critical. People don't just talk about this Out Loud in public. And there are ALOT of people who don't buy into "homosexuality is normal" discussion.
They just don't say it. You can insult them or act superior and pious all you want. Act as if you are more "evolved" all you like. But that won't change anything . That never had changed anything
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You don't even bother to explain how homosexuality is an "affliction." Until you do, your argument is invalid.
I even explained how people use the word "normal" in different ways yet you can't even address that.
Congrats.
No I hear you.
the first thing I do say about the Animal Kingdom comparison, which many people cite now when speaking of homosexuality, is that I think God created holistically different from animals. We are not animals. Animals, from a creationist standpoint, are not on the same level as human beings. They are not.
I do not believe in Darwanism and I am not an Evolutionist. Things do EVOLVE, but not I do not buy into Evolution
We as humans are different entirely. Creates special and apart from animals. I do not know exactly how one becomes a homosexual . I have no interest in condemning them or bashing them. But I do not think homosexuality is what was intended. I frankly find it a total question worth gathering thoughts on. I do not think they were created that way. I know I believe that much. I cannot explain why a 4 yr shows proclivities for it. I don't know why you can tell from the time some kids are 7 that they already have a propensity for that misidentification. Maybe it is a natural breakdown of lifestyle from one generation to the next as we are continually bringing kids into the world in many homes, certainly not all, whom don't have proper role models or only one parent
I don't know. I jus my know that I am not dumb. I am well learned. Which doesn't mean anything in terms of having an evolved mind. I don't accept the premise that only "evolved" minds accept homosexuality and if you don't, the you are thereby myopic.
That is nonsense.
I am saying I don't think homosexually is biologically correct. I think it's a misidentification somehow that does start at a young age.
I'm not saying they had anyway of knowing any better at that age.
I am a recovered alcoholic. I was simply almost primed for alcohol. I never ever ever ever drank alcohol without getting drunk. Not once. Not even when I was younger. I always had the Phenomenon of Craving. Always. I didn't become full alcoholic until my mid20s. I went from 17 until 25 without drinking a drop. By the time I was 32 , I was hospitalized
But I know I wasn't created an alcoholc by God. It's not on Him
I know that much. And I know there are many many MANY other societal ills to harp on aside from homosexuality. But just as a topic you cannot easily address in everyday life, it's worth discussing here
But I do not think it is biologically correct. And I do not think it is right. But I do not believe I should condemn them either
I just don't believe what mainstream society is trying to promote about it either
I do not. It's not a fist pounding insistence that IT IS JUST WRONG. I don't have to have fist pound Nothing like that
I calmly believe just aside from All The Dialogue that it is incorrect. (Let's drop the world 'normal'"
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I don't even know where to start.
Homosexuality and alcoholism isn't a good comparison.
Two consenting adults find one another attractive and start a relationship with one another. They become romantically and sexually involved with one another.
How is that comparable to a horrible addiction?
Do you understand how ridiculous and insulting that would be if people treated straight couples the way they do homosexuals? Comparing a "traditional" marriage to a horrible crippling addiction?
I am seriously doubting that you don't condemn them.
You compared it to a horrible condition; if that isn't directly condemning, you are definitely implying it.
You are telling homosexual people that the way they are is WRONG and that they are WRONG for doing this.
CONDEMNING IS EXPRESSING YOUR DISAPPROVAL OF SOMETHING.That is exactly what you are doing!
You just seem to be doing this because you are disgusted with another type of human being, and so you think that you can justify those feelings by attaching all these words like "unnatural" to it.
You think that these people are wrong to exist as they are.
THESE PEOPLE DO NOT AFFECT YOUR LIFE. WHY ARE YOU SO CONCERNED WITH WHO THEY LOVE?
Spot on.