He punched her in the mouth, is this justifiable?

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  • What is it that she told him that he probably needed to hear?

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    • That sexual abuse can have long lasting effects on an individual.

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      • Well, everyone pretty much knows that.

        The fact that she is trying to grope OP against his will especially when you consider the fact that he's an abuse survivor proves that she's not a true friend, and if anything she's a bit predatory and opportunistic herself. What kind of awful person would act the way she did towards a friend? If she were my friend I would dump her. Groping another unwilling person is sexual assault.

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        • Well in a lot of ways so is the dynamics of the often "top" vs "bottom" relationship gay men have. I wasnt there so there Is only so much I can say

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          • Okay so yeah a lot of bi guys have a past of sexual abuse and some gays aswell. But wrong place and time for her to talk about that heavy shit and no need to discuss it in front of my boyfriend. Exspecially bringing up my fucking step-dad.

            You don't think that I've research reasons why I have some feelings for some guys but like mostly girls, over and over again a million times. Just makes me more disgusted with my self if the cause is mainly from my past abuse, so I try to forget about it or I'll end up beating my self up over it. What else can I do about it. I'm not dating a dude for kicks I really cannot control who I'm attracted to.

            And how's the dynamic of being a top or bottom abusive? You do know some couples don't use penetration.

            And dental bills I agree with that.

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            • I was molested when I was 5 by my own brother. There's speculation my father may have messed with both of us when we were too young to remember. I understand a lot of your feelings. I've bought sex toys multiple times. Enjoyed the hell out of them, only to throw them away out of shame. I last had sex with a woman in 2014 February. I have made a point to go solo for a long time until I feel as close to healed as I can. I know the gay part of me isn't the real me. I've spent the better part of 4 years alone and have slowly felt a lot better about everything. I am really not here to judge you are make you feel badly, I just sometimes look at myself in hindsight and wish there were certain friends I may have had.

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              • Okay sorry I thought you were just another person hating on me for no reason.

                Our childhoods were robbed from us...
                I was physical beat up by my real dad who's an drunk.
                The sexual abuse with my step-dad happened to me when I was 13 and didn't stop until I left home at the age of 18. That's when I met my bf at uni, he was just a friend then but he's also bi and open about it. But we slowly got closer and started dating and now he's my bf. But I always felt guilty about my feelings for him sometimes randomly like it's still wrong... And our relationship is really complex like he's more of a support right now, so I feel like trying to leave him would be tearing away my last standing foundation of sanity. I was psychotic(PTSD, depression, anxiety) on my own... Even sometimes I really wish we were a straight couple but I can't imagine how id be able to leave him now, he has helped me so much. I still have to deal with my family and step-dad at get togethers, but I try to keep my distance and I can't imagining going alone, I don't even have a friend anymore...

                Glad to hear that you're doing better.
                I wish there was a pill to make me normal.

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