It's not just about us and our own personal health; it's about everyone else too, including the more vulnerable people we could pass covid onto.
And besides, it's the only really effective way of controlling the virus. All that social distancing, lockdowns and mask-wearing do is slow down its spread so that hospital intensive care units won't get overwhelmed with covid patients in severe respiratory distress. As it is, hospitals are so saturated with covid cases that in the UK it's extremely difficult to get treatment for anything else, including things like cancer. That can't be allowed to go on. And every time we go into lockdown, businesses go bust, livelihoods are destroyed, domestic violence worsens, children don't get educated, and addicts of all stripes are left alone with their addictions.
Even in the highly unlikely event that vaccines SHOULD have negative side effects, I'll take them if it contributes to saving families from going destitute or women from being beaten to death, and if it means we can all have a national health system that's functional for anything except covid.
If you are stuck with an abusive partner, they'd probably abuse you even without a lockdown. Such sad incidents have always happened before pandemics. You are not identifying the actual root of the problem and the actual solution. I've not heard of any country closing hotlines and police service due to covid and any person could sure go out in order to seek help. That would be an excuse to break a curfew, as you can imagine.
Pragmatically speaking it is harder for anyone to distance themselves from or mitigate the extent of domestic abuse, while they are stuck at home with their abuser. I've done some research on this and there are actually many steps that need to be taken in order to escape safely, and some of them depend on places being open, and having multiple options in case one doesn't work...
Yeah, if the victim is trying to cover up the abuse while escaping. They'll make it harder for themselves than it shall be. The safest way would be to call emergency on loudspeaker - before it's too late. Some ppl will always rather find excuses than do what they actually need to do.
What's the difference if there's no lockdown? You are at work during daytime and take abuse only in evenings and weekends. But it's not measured in time rather in events. Which could happen any time. What else - the local 24/7 working fast food is closed so you can't run there. Is it there where one shall actually run? In abusive relationships, the victim's behaviour to a large part facilitates them. That's the real problem they have - that they will stay with someone beating them, no matter if they are in or off work and if the closest McDonalds is open or not.
Firstly let me tell you that is bullshit. Since covid they have been denying care to new patients, anyone with preexisting conditions and those very prone to respiratory illnesses. As well as that have shut down several programs to prevent homelessness and suicide. They have focused all care on covid cases while neglecting all those who are likely dying from it. When I can't go to the urgent care for chronic respiratory problems because they care about this man made disease. That is a sign they want anyone with respiratory issues to die. Do not fool yourself into thinking they give a shit about anyone. I have been tested for covid 14 times and came back negitive. The fact I am refused medical care because every hospital is terrified of covid is fucking ridiculous. If the doctors refuse to help me with my prexisting conditions I am not going to bother with these people for anything.
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It's not just about us and our own personal health; it's about everyone else too, including the more vulnerable people we could pass covid onto.
And besides, it's the only really effective way of controlling the virus. All that social distancing, lockdowns and mask-wearing do is slow down its spread so that hospital intensive care units won't get overwhelmed with covid patients in severe respiratory distress. As it is, hospitals are so saturated with covid cases that in the UK it's extremely difficult to get treatment for anything else, including things like cancer. That can't be allowed to go on. And every time we go into lockdown, businesses go bust, livelihoods are destroyed, domestic violence worsens, children don't get educated, and addicts of all stripes are left alone with their addictions.
Even in the highly unlikely event that vaccines SHOULD have negative side effects, I'll take them if it contributes to saving families from going destitute or women from being beaten to death, and if it means we can all have a national health system that's functional for anything except covid.
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If you're left at home with an abusive partner, and you cant go out, someones gonna be beaten to death
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If you are stuck with an abusive partner, they'd probably abuse you even without a lockdown. Such sad incidents have always happened before pandemics. You are not identifying the actual root of the problem and the actual solution. I've not heard of any country closing hotlines and police service due to covid and any person could sure go out in order to seek help. That would be an excuse to break a curfew, as you can imagine.
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Pragmatically speaking it is harder for anyone to distance themselves from or mitigate the extent of domestic abuse, while they are stuck at home with their abuser. I've done some research on this and there are actually many steps that need to be taken in order to escape safely, and some of them depend on places being open, and having multiple options in case one doesn't work...
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Yeah, if the victim is trying to cover up the abuse while escaping. They'll make it harder for themselves than it shall be. The safest way would be to call emergency on loudspeaker - before it's too late. Some ppl will always rather find excuses than do what they actually need to do.
What's the difference if there's no lockdown? You are at work during daytime and take abuse only in evenings and weekends. But it's not measured in time rather in events. Which could happen any time. What else - the local 24/7 working fast food is closed so you can't run there. Is it there where one shall actually run? In abusive relationships, the victim's behaviour to a large part facilitates them. That's the real problem they have - that they will stay with someone beating them, no matter if they are in or off work and if the closest McDonalds is open or not.
Firstly let me tell you that is bullshit. Since covid they have been denying care to new patients, anyone with preexisting conditions and those very prone to respiratory illnesses. As well as that have shut down several programs to prevent homelessness and suicide. They have focused all care on covid cases while neglecting all those who are likely dying from it. When I can't go to the urgent care for chronic respiratory problems because they care about this man made disease. That is a sign they want anyone with respiratory issues to die. Do not fool yourself into thinking they give a shit about anyone. I have been tested for covid 14 times and came back negitive. The fact I am refused medical care because every hospital is terrified of covid is fucking ridiculous. If the doctors refuse to help me with my prexisting conditions I am not going to bother with these people for anything.