Have you ever wept after a Presidential election result?

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  • The fact that you are getting emotional over an election result means you are being manipulated via your emotions. Fear is very, very persuasive, and you were made to be afraid just as the liberal Left of the US was made to be afraid about Trump.

    You can either see through this fear or continue to be controlled by it. It's hard to break out of a mass hysteria bubble.

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    • You're still being controlled by fear. Fear leads to people like Trump and this Brazilian fascist being elected, not the other way around. The mass hysteria they create by making people like you fear immigrants, refugees, etc is what gets them votes. It's why they both admire Hitler so much, he was one of the most successful demagogues of all time.

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      • Do you recall the dozens of women who claimed Donald Trump sexually assaulted them just prior to the presidential election? What happened to those women, and why didn't they follow-up on their claims? Even if he won--especially since he won--why wouldn't they see justice done?

        A rapist in the whitehouse?!

        It's because it was all theatrics. The claims were false, made to elicit an emotional response to persuade voters. This is one of 1000s of persuasive techniques that occured during that election. They may not be logical but they work on an emotional, basic level, and enough combined is enough to sway moderate voters.

        We humans feel first and think second. We are emotional beings who mostly use logic to justify our emotions. The only way to understand how manipulated you are being is to understand how emotional you are getting. If the news has you in tears, beware and take a serious step back.

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        • Do you remember when Donald Trump was caught on tape admitting to doing exactly what they said he did and bragging about getting away with it? Do you remember when he ex wife said he raped her and he didn’t deny it, only falsely claimed that it’s not rape if the couple is married? Do you remember all of the other countless statements he’s publicly made that show how misogynistic he is?

          You fear a society where men are held responsible for treating women poorly. That’s why you defend men who treat women poorly, that’s why you convince yourself that their claims must be false despite overwhelming evidence.

          Again, you are the one being manipulated. I know you won’t see it now, maybe you never will, but the fact remains that all of human history shows people like Trump gain support by exploiting fear and the people who oppose them have always proven to be on the right side.

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          • "You fear a society where men are held responsible for treating women poorly. That’s why you defend men who treat women poorly, that’s why you convince yourself that their claims must be false despite overwhelming evidence."

            I don't recall ever saying this. Hell, check my recent comment history and you'll see how anti-Sharia Law I am. What I'm trying to do and what you're failing to do, is to take the emotion out of my argument and look at the pure logic around it. Why would the dozens of women who made rape claims against Trump prior to the election not follow up on those accusations?

            Those in the media who are anti-Trump would absolutely jump at the opportunity and make sure their voices were heard. It would be a scandal that'd make Bill Clinton's bj in the oval office look like a joke. Yet this hasn't happened. The only logical conclusion I can find is that those accusations were false to begin with, and used only as an emotional manipulation tool for the election.

            Speaking of emotional manipulation and rape claims, why aren't we hearing any more about Christine Blasey Ford? Why isn't she, her attournies and the Democrats pursuing her rape claim still? You haven't heard a word out of her since Kavanaugh got on the Supreme Court. If the claims were legitimate, what would it matter if Kavanaugh was on the Supreme Court or not?

            The reality is, Ford's claim was only used as an emotional manipulation tool, the same as all those rape claims against Trump. Now that the election/nomination is over, the rape claims are no longer pursued. Weird how that works, isn't it?

            Do me a favor, factcheck, and either change your screenname or start thinking more logically.

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            • For all of your talk about taking out emotions and thinking logically, your post sure has a whole lot of emotion and not much logic. Your belief that women would continue to follow up on their accusations is an emotional one, not a logical one. Logically, if they were going to pursue a criminal case, they would've done that already. So, logically, why are they bringing it up now? Logically, to stop their rapist or attempted rapist from becoming President or a Supreme Court justice. Once the election is over and the Senate votes, logic dictates there's nothing else for them to pursue. It's over. It's weird that you would think they would continue to pursue it at this point.

              Speaking of logic, why did you completely ignore the majority of my post? Specifically, where I pointed out that Donald Trump has admitted to doing what those women said he did and bragged about getting away with it. Logically, that shows you know that they're telling the truth. If you really wanted to apply logic to the Kavanaugh/Ford situation, you would look at the fact that Kavanaugh was caught lying under oath multiple times and while Ford was as honest as she could be every time she spoke. Logically, that tells you she has more credibility that he does. If you wanted to apply logic, you would look at the fact that the investigation made no attempt to actually investigate the allegations by talking to anybody who knew both of them at the time, including the one person who could directly support Ford's claim and several other people who could make or support similar claims. If you were thinking logically, the only logical conclusion is that they wanted to hide the truth. But you aren't thinking logically, you're thinking emotionally.

              The reality is that those women were telling the truth. Anybody can see that. Nobody actually believes they were lying. But your emotional response, anger over the nerve of these women to stand up to such powerful men, causes you to lash out with baseless accusations and twisted logic in a vein attempt to discredit them and discourage other women from coming forward. You expect it to work, just like you expect your attempts to manipulate readers into believing you're not thinking emotionally will work.

              And finally, since we're on the topic of logic, it's illogical to be anti-Sharia Law yet also be a conservative, which your comment history shows you are. There's no substantive difference between Sharia Law and the "religious freedom" that conservatives preach. The only difference between the Middle East and the United States is that there are more secularists in the United States preventing conservative Christians from implementing the exact same anti-women and anti-gay laws they have in the Middle East. This is another fact that you can't deny, because it wasn't that long ago that conservative Christians had a lot more control over the US government and those laws were in place...women couldn't work, go to school, vote, or drive in the not too distant past...gay people had no rights in the very recent past...and conservative Christians weren't the ones who changed the laws. They've fought it every step of the way. You would know all of this if you looked at it logically, but your fear of people who don't look or sound like you clouds your judgment and politicians like Trump manipulate you and exploit that fear in their favor.

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              • I mentioned before that people mostly use logic to justify their emotions. But I never thought I'd get such a clear example:

                "If you really wanted to apply logic to the Kavanaugh/Ford situation, you would look at the fact that Kavanaugh was caught lying under oath multiple times and while Ford was as honest as she could be every time she spoke."

                "The reality is that those women were telling the truth. Anybody can see that. Nobody actually believes they were lying. But your emotional response, anger over the nerve of these women to stand up to such powerful men, causes you to lash out with baseless accusations and twisted logic in a vein attempt to discredit them and discourage other women from coming forward. You expect it to work, just like you expect your attempts to manipulate readers into believing you're not thinking emotionally will work."

                To put it simply: we live in different realities.

                If you truly and honestly believe Ford and the other women were telling the truth, then we are watching such different movies on the same screen that any conversation we have will go nowhere.

                If you truly believe that a 60-year old, professional woman sounds and acts like this during a congressional hearing then you are in the middle of a full-blown hallucination:

                https://youtu.be/uGxr1VQ2dPI?t=380

                This is emotional manipulation 101. If you are a man, factcheck, then you will suffer at the hands of female manipulation for the rest of your life. If you are a woman, then you need to become more self-aware. Women are not stupid. Women, when motivated, can and will lie especially when the stakes are high.

                There are those out there (maybe even yourself) who have truly convinced themselves that Trump is a dictator, or the next Hitler. Any lie or action against such a regime is justified. It's this kind of thinking that let the prison guards of Auschwitz burn jews alive.

                The only way to break out your hallucination bubble, that I can think of, is to talk to a Trump voter in real life. Online won't cut it. Talk to them without the impression that they are evil, foolish, or being tricked. Try this and you may gain a different perspective.

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              • No substantive difference between Sharia law and dumb ass fucktarded conservative Christians? I smell hysteria. Under Sharia law you can murder gays on suspicion of their gayness. You can also murder women that are victims of rape to put an end to their dishonor. Your comparison is laughable. If you even cared about these issues, you would support McBean who is a weapons system engineer doing something about the Middle East. You have lost all credibility. Go back to Reddit. Your hot air is listened to by nobody.

                PS. Don't tell me I am a Trump supporter. I hate that asshole.

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          • Your position needs clarification here. Sounds like you are saying that you feel persecuted, and you know that persecution is a reality, not a subjective perception. Is this correct?

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    • As I see it, the mass hysteria is what elected this horrible man.

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