"And you need to stop defending her husband like he's some weak shit."
You misunderstood me completely, I am not doing that at all. I wrote what I wrote because I don't like that you call the sexual stuff bullshit just because you have an aversion to blowjobs and can't stand a woman touching your feminist "dick".
You are awfully wrong when you look down on men who don't get an erection on command. I bet they are better in bed than you unless they suffer from sexual aversions like you and unless they are disgusted by their own dicks and find them gross like you.
You would be a good couple with that prude and frigid sweety who would just lie there disgusted by "the thing" in her ... (down there). Oh, that's sweet! What a great fantasy of the ideal sex!
Don't TRY and bring MY genitals into this ya weirdo, haha! If you must then bring yours into this. But other than that, that's just creepy!
We're talking about a man who can't get a boner anymore as fast. And a woman who is frustrated with this. What's the big deal?? A lot of men are frustrated with their women. And when they complain people don't get all defensive. So I don't understand why'd you'd get of offended for him. She's just a like a dude. Most men I've met hate the whole role play stuff. So why is it such a big deal if she does?! It's not.
Men also complain about women being too "prude". Kind of like you, right? Sounds like you dislike them. But yet, you're not defending THEM? Why? They're just like that man except with a different problem. They don't like sex. So what? I don't see how you can be so one sided. Defend a guy who has boner problems, but totally hate on women who don't find pleasure in sex.
Oh and even playing with this cock, might not work. He may have a real thing going on. A lot of older men do. What's the big deal? It's normal.
You argue that playing with a cock is bullshit. What I am trying to say is that you have this opinion because you have an aversion to that. Mentioning your dick in this context makes sense because it is directly related to your aversion to blowjobs. In another thread about blowjobs you wrote:
“ Yeah... But it concerns me because its kind of gross. I mean you're licking someone's piss hole. It's dirty. And has a lot of germs. Is there some safe germ liquid shit or something?“
I hope that it is clear why it was relevant to mention it when I wanted to comment on your “bullshit claim“.
As for the comparison of women's and men's frustrations and the reactions of other people to them, you are completely wrong. If a guy posted a story that he didn't like foreplay and that he was annoyed when foreplay was required, he would receive plenty of comments saying that he is a fucking selfish asshole and that his GF should leave him because she would deserve better. If the same is posted by a woman, nobody tells the her that she is a fucking selfish bitch and that her BF should leave her because he would deserve better. (No offence to the OP, I'm just illustrating the principle which I don't like, I'm not referring to her here!)
If men say they don't like foreplay, it may not mean that all of them also don't like having their cock sucked by a woman. What they often mean is that they don't like the process of getting their partner in the mood for sex when she is not aroused at all and they have to do something about it to prevent her from feeling pain in her vagina. Of course, many men don't like this because they would prefer their partner to be aroused from the beginning. Personally, I often say that I don't like foreplay at all but when I say this, I am referring to stuff like whole body massage, romantic stuff etc. which are supposed to get the other person in the mood for sex - I am not referring to blowjobs because I don't consider blowjobs to be a foreplay but SEX (hence oral SEX). However, most people tend to call that foreplay and that is why when I talk to them, I try to use their language so that we could understand each other and in this case, I may use the expression “foreplay“ to refer to oral sex as well.
“Oh and even playing with this cock, might not work. He may have a real thing going on. A lot of older men do.“
Well, on the basis of the original post, it is legitimate to think that the main problem isn't that playing with his cock doesn't work at all but the problem is that it takes too long for the OP which annoys her as she doesn't like doing that. That is why I've assumed that his problems with erections aren't very severe. Erectile dysfunction which may accompany aging is caused by physiological factors (such as problems with blood vessels) and in such case, the difficulties with erections are pervasive – i.e. occur also when the man masturbates or is asleep and this type of erectile dysfunction is also characterised by disappearance of morning erections. I just haven't had the impression that the OP's partner's difficulties with erections are so severe that he needs Viagra and that is why I think it is better to deal with the problem in a natural way.
Well...everyone has their own fetishes...and I just like penetrating. I can't help it. And yeah I'm kind of a paranoid germ freak. So you can see why I said it. I do respect women who enjoy it. It turns me on also, but my paranoia for my partner gets the best of me.
I guess my BDSM fetish may also get in the way, where I like to be dominated. And all that.
I realize I came off as rude, so I apologize. I don't know much about aging with a penis. Just what I hear. And I don't like foreplay either...but I realize for my partner of course I'd do it! Sorry for being rude. I get heated at pointless shit >_<
It's all right :) The conversation got heated but at least we have shared some ideas which might give us more insight into how other people think about the issue.
Don't take me wrong - I like penetration as well. Actually, intercourse is my main "source" of orgasms. It is the most effective way for me to orgasm when it comes to the number of orgasms and the time needed to achieve them. Believe me or not, I can go straight to intercourse with my boyfriend and have my first orgasm within 1 or 2 minutes without any stimulation before that. So obviously, I like it this way and I didn't have a personal motivation of this kind to “defend“ doing stuff before the intercourse just because that is what I like and nothing more. The thing is that I understand it is not always an option for everybody and it is normal if a guy doesn't get erections out of thin air and needs a stimulation to get hard. I don't think that he should be seen as insufficient because of it. That's all.
Finally, I've posted a comment to the OP as well not to feel kind of “guilty” for hijacking this thread :)
Harder to get hard...annoying!
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"And you need to stop defending her husband like he's some weak shit."
You misunderstood me completely, I am not doing that at all. I wrote what I wrote because I don't like that you call the sexual stuff bullshit just because you have an aversion to blowjobs and can't stand a woman touching your feminist "dick".
You are awfully wrong when you look down on men who don't get an erection on command. I bet they are better in bed than you unless they suffer from sexual aversions like you and unless they are disgusted by their own dicks and find them gross like you.
You would be a good couple with that prude and frigid sweety who would just lie there disgusted by "the thing" in her ... (down there). Oh, that's sweet! What a great fantasy of the ideal sex!
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Don't TRY and bring MY genitals into this ya weirdo, haha! If you must then bring yours into this. But other than that, that's just creepy!
We're talking about a man who can't get a boner anymore as fast. And a woman who is frustrated with this. What's the big deal?? A lot of men are frustrated with their women. And when they complain people don't get all defensive. So I don't understand why'd you'd get of offended for him. She's just a like a dude. Most men I've met hate the whole role play stuff. So why is it such a big deal if she does?! It's not.
Men also complain about women being too "prude". Kind of like you, right? Sounds like you dislike them. But yet, you're not defending THEM? Why? They're just like that man except with a different problem. They don't like sex. So what? I don't see how you can be so one sided. Defend a guy who has boner problems, but totally hate on women who don't find pleasure in sex.
Oh and even playing with this cock, might not work. He may have a real thing going on. A lot of older men do. What's the big deal? It's normal.
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You argue that playing with a cock is bullshit. What I am trying to say is that you have this opinion because you have an aversion to that. Mentioning your dick in this context makes sense because it is directly related to your aversion to blowjobs. In another thread about blowjobs you wrote:
“ Yeah... But it concerns me because its kind of gross. I mean you're licking someone's piss hole. It's dirty. And has a lot of germs. Is there some safe germ liquid shit or something?“
I hope that it is clear why it was relevant to mention it when I wanted to comment on your “bullshit claim“.
As for the comparison of women's and men's frustrations and the reactions of other people to them, you are completely wrong. If a guy posted a story that he didn't like foreplay and that he was annoyed when foreplay was required, he would receive plenty of comments saying that he is a fucking selfish asshole and that his GF should leave him because she would deserve better. If the same is posted by a woman, nobody tells the her that she is a fucking selfish bitch and that her BF should leave her because he would deserve better. (No offence to the OP, I'm just illustrating the principle which I don't like, I'm not referring to her here!)
If men say they don't like foreplay, it may not mean that all of them also don't like having their cock sucked by a woman. What they often mean is that they don't like the process of getting their partner in the mood for sex when she is not aroused at all and they have to do something about it to prevent her from feeling pain in her vagina. Of course, many men don't like this because they would prefer their partner to be aroused from the beginning. Personally, I often say that I don't like foreplay at all but when I say this, I am referring to stuff like whole body massage, romantic stuff etc. which are supposed to get the other person in the mood for sex - I am not referring to blowjobs because I don't consider blowjobs to be a foreplay but SEX (hence oral SEX). However, most people tend to call that foreplay and that is why when I talk to them, I try to use their language so that we could understand each other and in this case, I may use the expression “foreplay“ to refer to oral sex as well.
“Oh and even playing with this cock, might not work. He may have a real thing going on. A lot of older men do.“
Well, on the basis of the original post, it is legitimate to think that the main problem isn't that playing with his cock doesn't work at all but the problem is that it takes too long for the OP which annoys her as she doesn't like doing that. That is why I've assumed that his problems with erections aren't very severe. Erectile dysfunction which may accompany aging is caused by physiological factors (such as problems with blood vessels) and in such case, the difficulties with erections are pervasive – i.e. occur also when the man masturbates or is asleep and this type of erectile dysfunction is also characterised by disappearance of morning erections. I just haven't had the impression that the OP's partner's difficulties with erections are so severe that he needs Viagra and that is why I think it is better to deal with the problem in a natural way.
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Well...everyone has their own fetishes...and I just like penetrating. I can't help it. And yeah I'm kind of a paranoid germ freak. So you can see why I said it. I do respect women who enjoy it. It turns me on also, but my paranoia for my partner gets the best of me.
I guess my BDSM fetish may also get in the way, where I like to be dominated. And all that.
I realize I came off as rude, so I apologize. I don't know much about aging with a penis. Just what I hear. And I don't like foreplay either...but I realize for my partner of course I'd do it! Sorry for being rude. I get heated at pointless shit >_<
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It's all right :) The conversation got heated but at least we have shared some ideas which might give us more insight into how other people think about the issue.
Don't take me wrong - I like penetration as well. Actually, intercourse is my main "source" of orgasms. It is the most effective way for me to orgasm when it comes to the number of orgasms and the time needed to achieve them. Believe me or not, I can go straight to intercourse with my boyfriend and have my first orgasm within 1 or 2 minutes without any stimulation before that. So obviously, I like it this way and I didn't have a personal motivation of this kind to “defend“ doing stuff before the intercourse just because that is what I like and nothing more. The thing is that I understand it is not always an option for everybody and it is normal if a guy doesn't get erections out of thin air and needs a stimulation to get hard. I don't think that he should be seen as insufficient because of it. That's all.
Finally, I've posted a comment to the OP as well not to feel kind of “guilty” for hijacking this thread :)
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Lmao now I feel bad for making myself look like an arse once again!