Gay but against gay marriage? Iin?

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  • Homosexuality is normal, insofar that it's now accepted by society, and the only possible definition of "normal" is what is accepted. No child will "have" to explain it to their classmates because their classmates don't care - as long as their parents haven't told them homophobic crap already. (Also, how often does this even come up on your average child's conversation?) It's not like kids inherently think being gay is weird. Pretty much every belief we hold has been taught to us.

    And if you think children should be raised by a mother and a father, do you have a problem with single parents too? If someone is raised primarily by their mother and grandmother, is that wrong? What about a kid raised by a group of monks? In some areas, like contemporary Hong Kong, many kids spend much of their time being cared for by a maid and treat them as a third parent. Is that bad? Not to mention polyamorous families. And there are plenty of families where a friend or relative plays a larger role in the kids' lives than the parents. "Children not being raised by a mother and a father, or solely by a mother and a father" is certainly not confined to gay couples. Are these things all inherently inferior to a traditional nuclear family? Why?

    Also, some gay couples do adopt masculine / feminine roles. Plenty of traditional families have complications - like I mentioned above. Gender is complex, gender *roles* are complex, families are complex, and things just aren't as black and white as we like to pretend they are.

    Pride parades are thing because LGBT+ people were historically oppressed - it's like Black History Month, if the analogy helps.

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    • If you say two dudes can do as good as a woman and a man, doesn't that kinda take away womens unique value? Its my opinion that both women and men have UNIQUE roles in raising a child optimally. A single parent is not as good either.

      We homosexuals are not systemically oppressed in my opinion. Some people are and always will be homaphobic. It would be great if everyone just started thinking homosexuality is normal, buts its just not common enough. Still less than 5 percent(somewhere around there) of people are strictly gay.

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      • I think there was a term for this. Internalized homophobia. Its when a gay person hates gays or themselves for being gays amd are against homosexual rights.

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        • I'm for homosexaul rights tho! Every single one except marriage!

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      • "If you say two dudes can do as good as a woman and a man, doesn't that kinda take away womens unique value?"

        No, not really. Two tall people, two cat people, and two Mac users can raise kids fine and I doubt anyone would disagree. But that doesn't mean short people, dog-lovers, or Windows users aren't "uniquely valuable," whatever that means.

        "Its my opinion that both women and men have UNIQUE roles in raising a child optimally."

        Now that's just sexist. Not everyone follows traditional gender roles.

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        • Listen dude, I'm no expert on this. If you wanna debate me, watch some Jordan Peterson or Ben Shapiro videos about gender roles on you tube or something.

          And also its not sexist unless I imply inequality, whitch I did not. Men and women are equal but different.

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          • If you can't defend your opinion, maybe it's time to reevaluate it. It's not my responsibility to try and figure out what *your* justifications are.

            Also, "equal but different" can definitely be sexist.

            And finally, even *if* gay couples are not, on average, as good as parenting as straight couples are (which, by the way, you've provided no evidence or compelling reasoning for beyond "men and women have unique roles" - whatever that means), doesn't mean it should be illegal for them to get married or raise kids - not unless all gay couples are just so catastrophically bad at raising children that it counts as abuse/neglect, which is evidently false. After all, single parents may, on average, be less good at raising children than two parents. But single parents aren't and shouldn't be illegal, either.

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