Idk, I think it's weird for sure. I don't really understand why you think that gay couples couldn't make good parents, but whatever, you said you aren't interested in a debate.
Here's one thing you should consider though & it's something to definitely think about if you end up in a super long-term, committed relationship.
Marriage isn't just about emotional commitment or creating families, it's also a legal contract, that comes with rights and protections. It means that you have access to your spouse's medical records & the ability to make medical decisions; it means that you get tax breaks; it means that you legally combine & share assets, so you have rights- should you separate.
Idk if you can imagine being with someone for 30+ years, and not even being allowed in the room after they get critically injured in a car accident because you aren't immediate family...that shit happens to gay couples all the time.
Now, in an area where only straight marriage is legal, straight couples are protected by "civil union" laws after they've been together for a certain number of years (and cohabitate etc), so they are legally considered to be in a de facto marriage & are legally afforded the same rights & protections. Gay couples are not.
So, it's not just about families & shit, it's also about taxes, paperwork, access to records, medical decisions, assets, finances, joint property ownership & a slew of other issues.
In my opinion marriage should not be a legal contract to gain benifits from goverment. A love contract should be spiritual and feel like getting benifits and tax cuts puts unneeded incentives.
I agree. Why should you get tax breaks for being married or having children. Children who inherently cost tax payer dollars already, through schooling.
Why should single, childless people be put at a disadvantage just to help raise your child, while married couples get breaks? If anything they should pay more taxes since their cost of living is reduced through shared living costs.
Yeah I mean this wasn't supposed to be a 'lets debate gay marriage!' post but I guess I am kinda asking for it. I do think that some if not all rights afforded to straight couples should be afforded to commited gay couples somehow. Because it is kinda fair that sexual orientation can forbid those rights. And like I said in the post, those things are not part of the reason I don't agree with gay marriage.
Sorry, I didn't mean for my comment to come across as a debate (it's fair enough if you just want to know if your opinion is normal w/out having people try & change your mind & you are entitled to your opinion).
What I was trying to say was that a lot of people don't consider the legal aspect of marriage. As much as there is an emotional component to it, there is also a legal one & these are rights that you, yourself will probably want to have - should you chose to enter a committed relationship. It's a big part of why people want their relationships legitimized through marriage, and I thought that aspect of marriage might be worthy of consideration.
Yeah I mean I'm only 19 right now and although a real close relationship seems out of reach (just broke up), There could definently be a point when that logistic legal benefits may change how I see things. But like I said, I think there should be some other avenue for close gay couples to get some of those rights, BUT NOT be able to raise children in the same way ect.
Gay but against gay marriage? Iin?
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Idk, I think it's weird for sure. I don't really understand why you think that gay couples couldn't make good parents, but whatever, you said you aren't interested in a debate.
Here's one thing you should consider though & it's something to definitely think about if you end up in a super long-term, committed relationship.
Marriage isn't just about emotional commitment or creating families, it's also a legal contract, that comes with rights and protections. It means that you have access to your spouse's medical records & the ability to make medical decisions; it means that you get tax breaks; it means that you legally combine & share assets, so you have rights- should you separate.
Idk if you can imagine being with someone for 30+ years, and not even being allowed in the room after they get critically injured in a car accident because you aren't immediate family...that shit happens to gay couples all the time.
Now, in an area where only straight marriage is legal, straight couples are protected by "civil union" laws after they've been together for a certain number of years (and cohabitate etc), so they are legally considered to be in a de facto marriage & are legally afforded the same rights & protections. Gay couples are not.
So, it's not just about families & shit, it's also about taxes, paperwork, access to records, medical decisions, assets, finances, joint property ownership & a slew of other issues.
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In my opinion marriage should not be a legal contract to gain benifits from goverment. A love contract should be spiritual and feel like getting benifits and tax cuts puts unneeded incentives.
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I agree. Why should you get tax breaks for being married or having children. Children who inherently cost tax payer dollars already, through schooling.
Why should single, childless people be put at a disadvantage just to help raise your child, while married couples get breaks? If anything they should pay more taxes since their cost of living is reduced through shared living costs.
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Thank you!!!! Someone else understand the injustice!
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Yeah I mean this wasn't supposed to be a 'lets debate gay marriage!' post but I guess I am kinda asking for it. I do think that some if not all rights afforded to straight couples should be afforded to commited gay couples somehow. Because it is kinda fair that sexual orientation can forbid those rights. And like I said in the post, those things are not part of the reason I don't agree with gay marriage.
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Sorry, I didn't mean for my comment to come across as a debate (it's fair enough if you just want to know if your opinion is normal w/out having people try & change your mind & you are entitled to your opinion).
What I was trying to say was that a lot of people don't consider the legal aspect of marriage. As much as there is an emotional component to it, there is also a legal one & these are rights that you, yourself will probably want to have - should you chose to enter a committed relationship. It's a big part of why people want their relationships legitimized through marriage, and I thought that aspect of marriage might be worthy of consideration.
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Yeah I mean I'm only 19 right now and although a real close relationship seems out of reach (just broke up), There could definently be a point when that logistic legal benefits may change how I see things. But like I said, I think there should be some other avenue for close gay couples to get some of those rights, BUT NOT be able to raise children in the same way ect.