It depends where you look. A lot of "real" feminists on the internet opose the idea of hating men. But nobody notices them because all people see are the fanatised crazy men haters.
Well, to be honest, these are people in the same movement. If feminism really had a problem with these people instead of just disagreeing with them so to not seem morally negative, they would call these people out and tell the public that these people doing such things in the name of feminism are not feminists, that they are man haters.
Until they go out of their way to show that they do not want such people in their group claiming to be people from the movement, why should anyone say feminism is against it? Nobody has been given reason to suggest they don't.
These types of feminists are the prominent ones in the group. They are the ones doing most action in it, and those actions are not positive ones. Like I said above, until the movement puts the spotlight on them and remove their status as feminists, explaining that those people are not doing what feminism is all about, then the people in the movement doing the most are going to be the poster-child for the movement.
It's not like you can ust go out and and tell people to stop calling themselves feminists because you disagree with them. Those people think their wa of thinking is right and they won't stop even if actual feminists call them out.
I know some actual feminists who love men and women equally and try to change men haters' minds. They just don't care because they still think feminism is about hating men.
There are people who use movements as a reason to hate anything. There are religious people who claim to be haters for their religion even if their religion doesn´t say anything about hate or gay people who think it's okay to hate straight people. Same goes for other groups of people.
It's a shame that all those things are seen as bad because of certain people in the groups.
Actually, it is. You can say this to such people and you can be completely correct by it. If you are someone doing something that the whole movement is "not" about, then you are not following what that movement is all about, hence you are not "actually" someone from that movement.
It would be like someone claiming to be an athiest while standing out on the road side with boards saying pray to your lord Jesus Christ. As in, they claim to be an athiest, but their actions are not what athiesm is all about.
Just like these people claim to be feminists, but their actions are not what feminism is all about.
It's not about stopping them, it's about being willing to explain to the public that the movement is not about what these people claiming to be feminists are doing.
It's not about stopping these feminist-man haters, it's about seperating from them, then showing to the public that these people are "not" feminists by showing how "real" feminists do not agree nor support what they are doing.
The movement has been taken over by these people, and that is because the "real" ones have not stood up to them, so now it is rooted in to the whole feminist movement. I can't say I have met a feminist that isn't ignorant about most things relating to gender.
These modern feminists have taken over the movement. It's not a shame all of them are being seen this way, it is a shame most of them are not willing to go against them simply because they are part of one group.
You should say this to feminists so they can do something about it. I'm not a feminist myself, even though I believe in equality but you have a good point, I'll say that when I meet my friends who always talk about it.
In my early days of the topic I myself was a feminist, s I thought it was for equality. This was when I was pretty young, though. I brought these things up to them many times, and they only came up with excuses. This is why I am not a feminist, but still for equality.
I am glad you can see I have a point here, and I hope your friend also sees the point when you tell him/her.
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It depends where you look. A lot of "real" feminists on the internet opose the idea of hating men. But nobody notices them because all people see are the fanatised crazy men haters.
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Well, to be honest, these are people in the same movement. If feminism really had a problem with these people instead of just disagreeing with them so to not seem morally negative, they would call these people out and tell the public that these people doing such things in the name of feminism are not feminists, that they are man haters.
Until they go out of their way to show that they do not want such people in their group claiming to be people from the movement, why should anyone say feminism is against it? Nobody has been given reason to suggest they don't.
These types of feminists are the prominent ones in the group. They are the ones doing most action in it, and those actions are not positive ones. Like I said above, until the movement puts the spotlight on them and remove their status as feminists, explaining that those people are not doing what feminism is all about, then the people in the movement doing the most are going to be the poster-child for the movement.
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It's not like you can ust go out and and tell people to stop calling themselves feminists because you disagree with them. Those people think their wa of thinking is right and they won't stop even if actual feminists call them out.
I know some actual feminists who love men and women equally and try to change men haters' minds. They just don't care because they still think feminism is about hating men.
There are people who use movements as a reason to hate anything. There are religious people who claim to be haters for their religion even if their religion doesn´t say anything about hate or gay people who think it's okay to hate straight people. Same goes for other groups of people.
It's a shame that all those things are seen as bad because of certain people in the groups.
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Actually, it is. You can say this to such people and you can be completely correct by it. If you are someone doing something that the whole movement is "not" about, then you are not following what that movement is all about, hence you are not "actually" someone from that movement.
It would be like someone claiming to be an athiest while standing out on the road side with boards saying pray to your lord Jesus Christ. As in, they claim to be an athiest, but their actions are not what athiesm is all about.
Just like these people claim to be feminists, but their actions are not what feminism is all about.
It's not about stopping them, it's about being willing to explain to the public that the movement is not about what these people claiming to be feminists are doing.
It's not about stopping these feminist-man haters, it's about seperating from them, then showing to the public that these people are "not" feminists by showing how "real" feminists do not agree nor support what they are doing.
The movement has been taken over by these people, and that is because the "real" ones have not stood up to them, so now it is rooted in to the whole feminist movement. I can't say I have met a feminist that isn't ignorant about most things relating to gender.
These modern feminists have taken over the movement. It's not a shame all of them are being seen this way, it is a shame most of them are not willing to go against them simply because they are part of one group.
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You should say this to feminists so they can do something about it. I'm not a feminist myself, even though I believe in equality but you have a good point, I'll say that when I meet my friends who always talk about it.
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In my early days of the topic I myself was a feminist, s I thought it was for equality. This was when I was pretty young, though. I brought these things up to them many times, and they only came up with excuses. This is why I am not a feminist, but still for equality.
I am glad you can see I have a point here, and I hope your friend also sees the point when you tell him/her.