I know, right! I mean tearing down male victim awareness posters isn't anti-male at all! Even when breaking the law to do so, which they were aware of! Not anti-male at all!
Or how they attack men with vilgar language for going to view a speech about what men face in modern society, holding the doors shut to prevent the men from having their freedom of choice, then pulling fire alarms to stop the speech, which is going against the whole idea of "equality" by not allowing men to have their speeches while they are allowed theirs.
Now you're mistaking male-haters for feminists. Feminists don't do anything like that even if those men haters call themselves feminists. Actual idea of feminism is about equality but some women take it too far but that's not how most of feminists behave.
No, friend, this is where you are mistaking feminists for anything other than male-haters. It was feminists that done this.
You can't have a group who's most prominent people act a certain way and dictate what the movement is just to say "that isn't what the movements is about".
Most feminists agree with the ideology these people have. They follow the same beliefs.
However you do bring up a good point, but it is betrayed by how the so called "real" feminists have done "nothing" to say "these people are wrong, don't confuse these posers with real feminists".
If feminists, the "real ones" really differed and had a problem with what these other feminists are doing, why have we not heard them point out how wrong these other people in their movement have done wrong?
Until the movement starts pointing out to these feminists that are the most active in feminism that they are doing wrong from doing such things, they are implying they have no problem with such people in their group.
You can't have a group filled with people doing what I explained, then expect to be seen as the complete opposite.
It depends where you look. A lot of "real" feminists on the internet opose the idea of hating men. But nobody notices them because all people see are the fanatised crazy men haters.
Well, to be honest, these are people in the same movement. If feminism really had a problem with these people instead of just disagreeing with them so to not seem morally negative, they would call these people out and tell the public that these people doing such things in the name of feminism are not feminists, that they are man haters.
Until they go out of their way to show that they do not want such people in their group claiming to be people from the movement, why should anyone say feminism is against it? Nobody has been given reason to suggest they don't.
These types of feminists are the prominent ones in the group. They are the ones doing most action in it, and those actions are not positive ones. Like I said above, until the movement puts the spotlight on them and remove their status as feminists, explaining that those people are not doing what feminism is all about, then the people in the movement doing the most are going to be the poster-child for the movement.
It's not like you can ust go out and and tell people to stop calling themselves feminists because you disagree with them. Those people think their wa of thinking is right and they won't stop even if actual feminists call them out.
I know some actual feminists who love men and women equally and try to change men haters' minds. They just don't care because they still think feminism is about hating men.
There are people who use movements as a reason to hate anything. There are religious people who claim to be haters for their religion even if their religion doesn´t say anything about hate or gay people who think it's okay to hate straight people. Same goes for other groups of people.
It's a shame that all those things are seen as bad because of certain people in the groups.
You have interesting points to make, but you're not going to convince anyone by harassing everyone who uses an -ist or -ism. Thats why you get thumbed down so much. Just make your point and move on, you don't have to be so persistent, you're just wasting your time and pissing people off.
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Many pople think that feminists want women to be more than men but that's bullshit. Feminism is about equality not about hating men.
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I know, right! I mean tearing down male victim awareness posters isn't anti-male at all! Even when breaking the law to do so, which they were aware of! Not anti-male at all!
Or how they attack men with vilgar language for going to view a speech about what men face in modern society, holding the doors shut to prevent the men from having their freedom of choice, then pulling fire alarms to stop the speech, which is going against the whole idea of "equality" by not allowing men to have their speeches while they are allowed theirs.
I mean, this is totally not anti-male behavior.
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Now you're mistaking male-haters for feminists. Feminists don't do anything like that even if those men haters call themselves feminists. Actual idea of feminism is about equality but some women take it too far but that's not how most of feminists behave.
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No, friend, this is where you are mistaking feminists for anything other than male-haters. It was feminists that done this.
You can't have a group who's most prominent people act a certain way and dictate what the movement is just to say "that isn't what the movements is about".
Most feminists agree with the ideology these people have. They follow the same beliefs.
However you do bring up a good point, but it is betrayed by how the so called "real" feminists have done "nothing" to say "these people are wrong, don't confuse these posers with real feminists".
If feminists, the "real ones" really differed and had a problem with what these other feminists are doing, why have we not heard them point out how wrong these other people in their movement have done wrong?
Until the movement starts pointing out to these feminists that are the most active in feminism that they are doing wrong from doing such things, they are implying they have no problem with such people in their group.
You can't have a group filled with people doing what I explained, then expect to be seen as the complete opposite.
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It depends where you look. A lot of "real" feminists on the internet opose the idea of hating men. But nobody notices them because all people see are the fanatised crazy men haters.
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Well, to be honest, these are people in the same movement. If feminism really had a problem with these people instead of just disagreeing with them so to not seem morally negative, they would call these people out and tell the public that these people doing such things in the name of feminism are not feminists, that they are man haters.
Until they go out of their way to show that they do not want such people in their group claiming to be people from the movement, why should anyone say feminism is against it? Nobody has been given reason to suggest they don't.
These types of feminists are the prominent ones in the group. They are the ones doing most action in it, and those actions are not positive ones. Like I said above, until the movement puts the spotlight on them and remove their status as feminists, explaining that those people are not doing what feminism is all about, then the people in the movement doing the most are going to be the poster-child for the movement.
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It's not like you can ust go out and and tell people to stop calling themselves feminists because you disagree with them. Those people think their wa of thinking is right and they won't stop even if actual feminists call them out.
I know some actual feminists who love men and women equally and try to change men haters' minds. They just don't care because they still think feminism is about hating men.
There are people who use movements as a reason to hate anything. There are religious people who claim to be haters for their religion even if their religion doesn´t say anything about hate or gay people who think it's okay to hate straight people. Same goes for other groups of people.
It's a shame that all those things are seen as bad because of certain people in the groups.
Please do not use -ists or -isms.
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You have interesting points to make, but you're not going to convince anyone by harassing everyone who uses an -ist or -ism. Thats why you get thumbed down so much. Just make your point and move on, you don't have to be so persistent, you're just wasting your time and pissing people off.
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Watch out comrade he may sic(sp?) the dipstick vhatc l2 weirdos on you. Has he told you about them and his ET experience?
*Enos you dipstick, "cood yood yood yood" ANY OLD SCHOOL FOLK RECOGNIZE THE REFERENCE?