Female raised by toxic masculinity

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  • I'm a Generation-Xer, and it was very common for kids raised in the 70s, and 80s to be told not to cry, or that crying made you look weak.

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    • I mean isnt it? Crying is weakness especially in public because it shows you cant contain your emotions. Now if you were told one of your family members died that a free pass to cry in public, pretty much everything else is just extremely poor social etiquette.

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      • Yeah of course it's a weakness. There's a time and a place to let yourself be vulnerable and weak, and if you just go horrible news or something like that then crying in public is perfectly reasonable. But to break down to the point of tears because someone called you a mean name, in public, is a blatant weakness.

        You outlined perfectly a situation where you need to hold it together in your plain crash example. Someone who can't even stop crying because they're left out of something is going to be completely useless in any strenuous situation.

        "They're coming over the trenches, lads! Start crying, that'll stop em"!

        "Nurse, scalpel"! *Nurse sobs as patient bleeds out on the operating table*.

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        • How, exactly, does “stop crying, you have no reason to” help somebody who is crying in public? As opposed to, say, sitting the crying person down, talking through whatever is making them cry, and actually making them no longer want to cry by giving them more situation appropriate ways of dealing with their emotion?

          Unless your goal is to force somebody to bottle up their emotions with no outlet until they intentionally crash a plane or shoot up a bunch of their fellow soldiers.

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          • It sets in mind the right mood for life. Not everyone can follow the message sure, but to break down over small things to the point of tears is abject weakness.

            Any country that has enough people like that in it will be massively dysfunctional and unable to complete the most basic tasks that involve stress, let alone hold off an invasion.

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            • Treating symptoms instead of the cause never solves anything. If somebody is crying over small things because they’re weak, telling them they have no reason to cry is pointless and accomplishes nothing. It doesn’t solve the problem of them being weak, it’ll simply make that weakness manifest itself in some other way. The solution is to make them emotionally stronger so they don’t feel the need to cry over small things.

              The last thing you want is a military full of emotionally stunted man babies who have no idea how to deal with their emotions.

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              • The cause is them crying over nothing. The remedy is showing disapproval them for crying over nothing. It's a remedy society has used since before the beginning of time. Sitting down with them and finding out why they're crying because someone called them a dick face is pointless. The reason they're crying is obvious. The solution is obvious.

                People who don't publicly cry when they're insulted or left out of something or called a mean name aren't "emotionally stunted" they're just not pathetically weak.

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      • I prefer not to cry in public.

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        • I think the grand majority of people do not want to cry in public. I think that was the point of OPs teachers not to say crying was always bad but just to say crying in public without a good reason is bad.

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