Why do you translate my words? I never said global warming was a conspiracy...
Hundreds of scientists do not believe MAN is responsible for climate change. Theres evidence of palm trees that use to be in Alaska. The climate has been changing before man even had carbon emissions. We only have records of temperatures going back to 1880. Wheres your evidence that man is responsible? You have no idea what you're talking about. If your dad was really a scientist you'd know a little more.
I asked you what the motivation would be to fabricate evidence of global warming & you said it was a whole can of worms involving many people. Sounds like a conspiracy to me.
Anyways, I seriously don't care what you think.
If you want to believe my dad's a fake scientist, that's cool. Maybe he works for fake Al Gore with his fabricated excel charts made of science-tistics & his weather machine that controls the gravitational pull of the moon.
The 'charts' only go back to 1880 so there's not much to go off of anyway. And why do you have to try to label me some tinfoil hat person? Gravitational pull of the moon? Really?
I dont understand why you get so offended by my views on it when you have absolutely no knowledge at all about the subject. If you're so certain about the subject, certain enough to suggest I'm a tinfoil hat guy, you should have no problem citing evidence yourself. Why can't you do that?
"Why do you have to try to label me some tinfoil hat person?"
Well, "humans are the primary cause of climate change" has indisputably been the scientific consensus for decades. You don't really seem like a tinfoil hat person, though. Based on the YouTube link you just sent me, I'm guessing maybe just a little too ready to believe unreliable sources.
I'm busy tonight, but I'll type up something for you later, since is kind of important. In the meantime, can you promise to keep an open mind?
Yes, but the predictions never came true. Florida was supposed to be under water by 2012. A new prediction says we have 10 more years before the apocalypse. There's hundreds of climate scientists that make good arguments as to why global warming may not be man made. Man doesnt have the records yet to make that call. They only go back to 1880. We know for a fact that the climate has been changing for thousands of years before that. Will you keep an open mind too? I can give you hundreds of very well qualified climatologists that give you an argument as to why climate scientists got it wrong. Ive listened to both arguments and to me the first ones make more sense. Its not a silly argument when you really look at the evidence with an open mind.
Science is always changing. In the 1990 doctors operated on babies while theyy were awake believing they felt no pain. Until 5 years ago cardiologists believed all fats caused heart disease. Now they're saying fats like olive oil reduce your risk. Science is always changing. Its dangerous to assume you ALWAYS have it right. You should never have a bias scientifically.
I don't remember saying you were a "tinfoil hat guy," I said you believe it's a conspiracy, which you do. If that's what you think, that's fine. More power to you.
I was telling that other user not to expect sources.
You shouldn't assume that I don't have any knowledge on the subject. I didn't even express a POV
"who believes global warming is a conspiracy." Ive never said that. "Climate change denialists" dont say that climate change doesn't exist. Everyone agrees that climate change exists. There's just people that believe man is responsible and people who don't believe man is responsible.
If I may just ask your POV a little since we are already here. Why do you believe man is responsible for climate change?
I watched it, and I regret giving this man the ad revenue. I'm sorry, I cannot consider this video a reliable scientific source and I highly encourage that you don't either.
Some red flags, all of which can be found in the very short video / comments section or in links I've provided:
> This is a YT video that could be filmed by literally anyone. Somewhat irrelevant, but nothing about the video suggests that he is in any way credible, down to the shaky camera and the lack of proper citations in the description.
> The YouTuber has admitted several times in the comments section that he is not a professional and, in short, has no idea what he's talking about.
> He's also admitted that his equipment may not be calibrated correctly.
> He has also failed to provide proper sources for any of his "scientific claims." A good rule of thumb is that anyone who refuses to get any more specific than "scientists and doctors all around the world" is not trustworthy.
> Hidden like / dislike counter, and the fact that he's deleting pretty much any negative comments. Actively suppressing opposition does very little for one's credibility.
> And most telling of all, the fact that this YouTuber is selling so-called "protective equipment" (https://emf-protection.us/emf-protection-store/#!/c/32163292) which has no data supporting its effectiveness besides the YTer's claim that it was designed by an "engineer" and that it was "tested" (by him, so you're just gonna have to take his word for it) to work. Not exactly peer-reviewed research. This also means that this YouTuber has a strong financial incentive to spread - excuse my language - bullshit.
In conclusion, he has no evidence, no credibility, and "warning" people of EMF earns him money. I'm glad you're doing your own research, but not all sources are created equal. Please don't trust this YouTuber. We have too many people spreading misinformation.
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I'm going to have to see links on that.
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That's coming from someone who believes global warming is a conspiracy. Prepare for incoming O'Reilly factor logic.
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Why do you translate my words? I never said global warming was a conspiracy...
Hundreds of scientists do not believe MAN is responsible for climate change. Theres evidence of palm trees that use to be in Alaska. The climate has been changing before man even had carbon emissions. We only have records of temperatures going back to 1880. Wheres your evidence that man is responsible? You have no idea what you're talking about. If your dad was really a scientist you'd know a little more.
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I asked you what the motivation would be to fabricate evidence of global warming & you said it was a whole can of worms involving many people. Sounds like a conspiracy to me.
Anyways, I seriously don't care what you think.
If you want to believe my dad's a fake scientist, that's cool. Maybe he works for fake Al Gore with his fabricated excel charts made of science-tistics & his weather machine that controls the gravitational pull of the moon.
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Okay Countess. *smirk* That remark was the last straw. Now, you're making me seriously excited. 😀
The 'charts' only go back to 1880 so there's not much to go off of anyway. And why do you have to try to label me some tinfoil hat person? Gravitational pull of the moon? Really?
I dont understand why you get so offended by my views on it when you have absolutely no knowledge at all about the subject. If you're so certain about the subject, certain enough to suggest I'm a tinfoil hat guy, you should have no problem citing evidence yourself. Why can't you do that?
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"Why do you have to try to label me some tinfoil hat person?"
Well, "humans are the primary cause of climate change" has indisputably been the scientific consensus for decades. You don't really seem like a tinfoil hat person, though. Based on the YouTube link you just sent me, I'm guessing maybe just a little too ready to believe unreliable sources.
I'm busy tonight, but I'll type up something for you later, since is kind of important. In the meantime, can you promise to keep an open mind?
Also, relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/1732/
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Yes, but the predictions never came true. Florida was supposed to be under water by 2012. A new prediction says we have 10 more years before the apocalypse. There's hundreds of climate scientists that make good arguments as to why global warming may not be man made. Man doesnt have the records yet to make that call. They only go back to 1880. We know for a fact that the climate has been changing for thousands of years before that. Will you keep an open mind too? I can give you hundreds of very well qualified climatologists that give you an argument as to why climate scientists got it wrong. Ive listened to both arguments and to me the first ones make more sense. Its not a silly argument when you really look at the evidence with an open mind.
Science is always changing. In the 1990 doctors operated on babies while theyy were awake believing they felt no pain. Until 5 years ago cardiologists believed all fats caused heart disease. Now they're saying fats like olive oil reduce your risk. Science is always changing. Its dangerous to assume you ALWAYS have it right. You should never have a bias scientifically.
I don't remember saying you were a "tinfoil hat guy," I said you believe it's a conspiracy, which you do. If that's what you think, that's fine. More power to you.
I was telling that other user not to expect sources.
You shouldn't assume that I don't have any knowledge on the subject. I didn't even express a POV
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"who believes global warming is a conspiracy." Ive never said that. "Climate change denialists" dont say that climate change doesn't exist. Everyone agrees that climate change exists. There's just people that believe man is responsible and people who don't believe man is responsible.
If I may just ask your POV a little since we are already here. Why do you believe man is responsible for climate change?
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Wow. He's always seemed reasonable.
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People can still be reasonable and believe a few batshit things.
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Fair. I actually will get some evidence and see if I can convince him.
https://youtu.be/MvSTN5rMORM
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I watched it, and I regret giving this man the ad revenue. I'm sorry, I cannot consider this video a reliable scientific source and I highly encourage that you don't either.
Some red flags, all of which can be found in the very short video / comments section or in links I've provided:
> This is a YT video that could be filmed by literally anyone. Somewhat irrelevant, but nothing about the video suggests that he is in any way credible, down to the shaky camera and the lack of proper citations in the description.
> The YouTuber has admitted several times in the comments section that he is not a professional and, in short, has no idea what he's talking about.
> He's also admitted that his equipment may not be calibrated correctly.
> He has also failed to provide proper sources for any of his "scientific claims." A good rule of thumb is that anyone who refuses to get any more specific than "scientists and doctors all around the world" is not trustworthy.
> Hidden like / dislike counter, and the fact that he's deleting pretty much any negative comments. Actively suppressing opposition does very little for one's credibility.
> And most telling of all, the fact that this YouTuber is selling so-called "protective equipment" (https://emf-protection.us/emf-protection-store/#!/c/32163292) which has no data supporting its effectiveness besides the YTer's claim that it was designed by an "engineer" and that it was "tested" (by him, so you're just gonna have to take his word for it) to work. Not exactly peer-reviewed research. This also means that this YouTuber has a strong financial incentive to spread - excuse my language - bullshit.
In conclusion, he has no evidence, no credibility, and "warning" people of EMF earns him money. I'm glad you're doing your own research, but not all sources are created equal. Please don't trust this YouTuber. We have too many people spreading misinformation.
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Oh it's a sales pitch! Snake oil and goat glands made fortunes for hucksters shucking shills and suckers.
Again Horse you've exposed the crux of the bisquit. Well done!💥