The World Health Organization says:
"There is no convincing scientific evidence that the weak RF signals from base stations and wireless networks cause adverse health effects."
https://www.who.int/peh-emf/publications/facts/fs304/en/
Here's what a 2005 review of studies on electromagnetic hypersensitivity has to say:
"The symptoms described by “electromagnetic hypersensitivity” sufferers can be severe and are sometimes disabling. However, it has proved difficult to show under blind conditions that exposure to EMF can trigger these symptoms. This suggests that “electromagnetic hypersensitivity” is unrelated to the presence of EMF, although more research into this phenomenon is required."
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.543.1328&rep=rep1&type=pdf
This video might also help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bqLS_OPHXE
Or, in other words, "electromagnetic hypersensitivity" isn't related to actual electromagnetic fields, only the belief that one exists. What you're feeling can be chalked up to the nocebo effect - it's not actually caused by WiFi, or your fridge, it's caused by your head.
That doesn't mean your symptoms aren't real, or that you're crazy. This is a real and well-studied effect. As long as you believe your WiFi is harming you, you'll experience these symptoms. Once you've wrapped your head around the scientific evidence that it is harmless, you'll be fine. However, it's possible that it's another condition causing your symptoms.
According to the WHO:
Treatment of affected individuals should focus on the health symptoms and the clinical picture, and not on the person's perceived need for reducing or eliminating EMF in the workplace or home. This requires:
>a medical evaluation to identify and treat any specific conditions that may be responsible for the symptoms,
>a psychological evaluation to identify alternative psychiatric/psychological conditions that may be responsible for the symptoms,
>an assessment of the workplace and home for factors that might contribute to the presented symptoms. These could include indoor air pollution, excessive noise, poor lighting (flickering light) or ergonomic factors. A reduction of stress and other improvements in the work situation might be appropriate.
Wikipedia also says cognitive behavioral therapy can help. Good luck!
In hindsight, I probably should have just told you some BS about how having more Vitamin C or whatever will cure you. As long as you believed me, that would have fixed it. That's how nocebo works.
I feel like the world health organization is full of it by saying its guaranteed safe because if you use a EMF meter next to cell phone towers it some towers exceed the safe amount of radiation that they give. I find that interesting. I have not myself checked with a EMF meter cell phone towers but a few media outlets have. So I can't be positive but I wouldn't doubt that theyre unsafe to an extent.
Why do you translate my words? I never said global warming was a conspiracy...
Hundreds of scientists do not believe MAN is responsible for climate change. Theres evidence of palm trees that use to be in Alaska. The climate has been changing before man even had carbon emissions. We only have records of temperatures going back to 1880. Wheres your evidence that man is responsible? You have no idea what you're talking about. If your dad was really a scientist you'd know a little more.
I asked you what the motivation would be to fabricate evidence of global warming & you said it was a whole can of worms involving many people. Sounds like a conspiracy to me.
Anyways, I seriously don't care what you think.
If you want to believe my dad's a fake scientist, that's cool. Maybe he works for fake Al Gore with his fabricated excel charts made of science-tistics & his weather machine that controls the gravitational pull of the moon.
The 'charts' only go back to 1880 so there's not much to go off of anyway. And why do you have to try to label me some tinfoil hat person? Gravitational pull of the moon? Really?
I dont understand why you get so offended by my views on it when you have absolutely no knowledge at all about the subject. If you're so certain about the subject, certain enough to suggest I'm a tinfoil hat guy, you should have no problem citing evidence yourself. Why can't you do that?
I watched it, and I regret giving this man the ad revenue. I'm sorry, I cannot consider this video a reliable scientific source and I highly encourage that you don't either.
Some red flags, all of which can be found in the very short video / comments section or in links I've provided:
> This is a YT video that could be filmed by literally anyone. Somewhat irrelevant, but nothing about the video suggests that he is in any way credible, down to the shaky camera and the lack of proper citations in the description.
> The YouTuber has admitted several times in the comments section that he is not a professional and, in short, has no idea what he's talking about.
> He's also admitted that his equipment may not be calibrated correctly.
> He has also failed to provide proper sources for any of his "scientific claims." A good rule of thumb is that anyone who refuses to get any more specific than "scientists and doctors all around the world" is not trustworthy.
> Hidden like / dislike counter, and the fact that he's deleting pretty much any negative comments. Actively suppressing opposition does very little for one's credibility.
> And most telling of all, the fact that this YouTuber is selling so-called "protective equipment" (https://emf-protection.us/emf-protection-store/#!/c/32163292) which has no data supporting its effectiveness besides the YTer's claim that it was designed by an "engineer" and that it was "tested" (by him, so you're just gonna have to take his word for it) to work. Not exactly peer-reviewed research. This also means that this YouTuber has a strong financial incentive to spread - excuse my language - bullshit.
In conclusion, he has no evidence, no credibility, and "warning" people of EMF earns him money. I'm glad you're doing your own research, but not all sources are created equal. Please don't trust this YouTuber. We have too many people spreading misinformation.
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The World Health Organization says:
"There is no convincing scientific evidence that the weak RF signals from base stations and wireless networks cause adverse health effects."
https://www.who.int/peh-emf/publications/facts/fs304/en/
Here's what a 2005 review of studies on electromagnetic hypersensitivity has to say:
"The symptoms described by “electromagnetic hypersensitivity” sufferers can be severe and are sometimes disabling. However, it has proved difficult to show under blind conditions that exposure to EMF can trigger these symptoms. This suggests that “electromagnetic hypersensitivity” is unrelated to the presence of EMF, although more research into this phenomenon is required."
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.543.1328&rep=rep1&type=pdf
This video might also help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bqLS_OPHXE
Or, in other words, "electromagnetic hypersensitivity" isn't related to actual electromagnetic fields, only the belief that one exists. What you're feeling can be chalked up to the nocebo effect - it's not actually caused by WiFi, or your fridge, it's caused by your head.
That doesn't mean your symptoms aren't real, or that you're crazy. This is a real and well-studied effect. As long as you believe your WiFi is harming you, you'll experience these symptoms. Once you've wrapped your head around the scientific evidence that it is harmless, you'll be fine. However, it's possible that it's another condition causing your symptoms.
According to the WHO:
Treatment of affected individuals should focus on the health symptoms and the clinical picture, and not on the person's perceived need for reducing or eliminating EMF in the workplace or home. This requires:
>a medical evaluation to identify and treat any specific conditions that may be responsible for the symptoms,
>a psychological evaluation to identify alternative psychiatric/psychological conditions that may be responsible for the symptoms,
>an assessment of the workplace and home for factors that might contribute to the presented symptoms. These could include indoor air pollution, excessive noise, poor lighting (flickering light) or ergonomic factors. A reduction of stress and other improvements in the work situation might be appropriate.
Wikipedia also says cognitive behavioral therapy can help. Good luck!
In hindsight, I probably should have just told you some BS about how having more Vitamin C or whatever will cure you. As long as you believed me, that would have fixed it. That's how nocebo works.
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Damn horse -- you're the only one who makes sense on this forum. Bravo.
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Thank you!
I feel like the world health organization is full of it by saying its guaranteed safe because if you use a EMF meter next to cell phone towers it some towers exceed the safe amount of radiation that they give. I find that interesting. I have not myself checked with a EMF meter cell phone towers but a few media outlets have. So I can't be positive but I wouldn't doubt that theyre unsafe to an extent.
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I'm going to have to see links on that.
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That's coming from someone who believes global warming is a conspiracy. Prepare for incoming O'Reilly factor logic.
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Why do you translate my words? I never said global warming was a conspiracy...
Hundreds of scientists do not believe MAN is responsible for climate change. Theres evidence of palm trees that use to be in Alaska. The climate has been changing before man even had carbon emissions. We only have records of temperatures going back to 1880. Wheres your evidence that man is responsible? You have no idea what you're talking about. If your dad was really a scientist you'd know a little more.
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I asked you what the motivation would be to fabricate evidence of global warming & you said it was a whole can of worms involving many people. Sounds like a conspiracy to me.
Anyways, I seriously don't care what you think.
If you want to believe my dad's a fake scientist, that's cool. Maybe he works for fake Al Gore with his fabricated excel charts made of science-tistics & his weather machine that controls the gravitational pull of the moon.
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Okay Countess. *smirk* That remark was the last straw. Now, you're making me seriously excited. 😀
The 'charts' only go back to 1880 so there's not much to go off of anyway. And why do you have to try to label me some tinfoil hat person? Gravitational pull of the moon? Really?
I dont understand why you get so offended by my views on it when you have absolutely no knowledge at all about the subject. If you're so certain about the subject, certain enough to suggest I'm a tinfoil hat guy, you should have no problem citing evidence yourself. Why can't you do that?
FromTheSouthWeirdMan...?
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Wow. He's always seemed reasonable.
https://youtu.be/MvSTN5rMORM
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I watched it, and I regret giving this man the ad revenue. I'm sorry, I cannot consider this video a reliable scientific source and I highly encourage that you don't either.
Some red flags, all of which can be found in the very short video / comments section or in links I've provided:
> This is a YT video that could be filmed by literally anyone. Somewhat irrelevant, but nothing about the video suggests that he is in any way credible, down to the shaky camera and the lack of proper citations in the description.
> The YouTuber has admitted several times in the comments section that he is not a professional and, in short, has no idea what he's talking about.
> He's also admitted that his equipment may not be calibrated correctly.
> He has also failed to provide proper sources for any of his "scientific claims." A good rule of thumb is that anyone who refuses to get any more specific than "scientists and doctors all around the world" is not trustworthy.
> Hidden like / dislike counter, and the fact that he's deleting pretty much any negative comments. Actively suppressing opposition does very little for one's credibility.
> And most telling of all, the fact that this YouTuber is selling so-called "protective equipment" (https://emf-protection.us/emf-protection-store/#!/c/32163292) which has no data supporting its effectiveness besides the YTer's claim that it was designed by an "engineer" and that it was "tested" (by him, so you're just gonna have to take his word for it) to work. Not exactly peer-reviewed research. This also means that this YouTuber has a strong financial incentive to spread - excuse my language - bullshit.
In conclusion, he has no evidence, no credibility, and "warning" people of EMF earns him money. I'm glad you're doing your own research, but not all sources are created equal. Please don't trust this YouTuber. We have too many people spreading misinformation.
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Oh it's a sales pitch! Snake oil and goat glands made fortunes for hucksters shucking shills and suckers.
Again Horse you've exposed the crux of the bisquit. Well done!💥