Throwing this out there, because this sounds like a rare open minded discussion. I am a lefty, from a town of lefties and I actually think trump is the choice if it had to be one of the two.
My reason, which is one oddly neither side talks about is Obama's drone assassination campaign, that Hillary approved of all but 1% of the strikes that took place while she was secretary of state.
This campaign takes out thousands of people with no judge or jury, and has horrifically only a 10% accuracy of even getting the right guy. There are some terrifying interviews on youtube of drone "pilots" where they describe just how little information they go off of when deploying the drones.
So my thought is this, I would be petrified if this sort of thing were happening in my town, so why would I wish this on the people of Pakistan? I think this is a fair question for people considering to vote Hillary.
Trump has a bombastic, and volatile personality that many are assuming I think fairly to a degree that this will translate to poor and violent military decisions. With Hillary though we know this for certain, she has done this successfully as secretary of state with a republican congress and has stated that she wants to continue it as president.
So at the end of the day, if you truly care about women even if it isn't "sexist", while Donald has assaulted them sexually, Hillary has literally sent drones to blow up their children. And if you truly care about non-white people, that should also apply to the lives of non-whites living in other parts of the world right?
Can't stand Trump as much as the next Hillary supporter but can't find anything about him that worries me as much as the thought of a drone flying into my house at any given moment, which has been the reality for many in the middle east.
Very interesting point that I hadn't thought about. I agree that drones could be a gateway into something very dangerous.
I used to consider myself much more left. And to some extent, I feel like I still am on quite a few social issues.
That being said, recently I have realized that a lot of leftists such as Hillary sadly are all about giving mostly false hope. All saying the right things, but not really doing them. Her and her supporters preach and preach and preach, but their actions sometimes say otherwise. For example, like you said, preaching for women and minorities when they approve of drone strikes. Or advocating for more syrian refugees to come in when hate crimes targeted toward LGBT people or just anyone happen partly because of some of the beliefs held in those parts of the world.
Trump has had his issues for sure, but I feel like he has a little bit more integrity than Hillary.
The issue which you brought up is a real issue, and it's a shame that more people aren't aware or considering things such as that. I think that is largely the fault of the media.
I couldn't agree more about this. I think Obama said when he was running against Hillary, that she will say everything and do nothing. And to some extent that became true of his own presidency, at least in regards to sticking up for working class people.
While I feel like this term is often misused I think there truly is a double standard when it comes to Islam in regards to homo/transphobia as you pointed out. And this is something I'm yet to even hear an irrational explanation for.
I would agree. This is my biggest issue with voting Hillary, while my biggest issue with voting Trump isn't even him but the GOP platform that states things like declaring porn a public health crisis, or wanting to reverse the legalization of gay marriage. And none of these are things I've really heard talked about even on independent online media.
My post is specifically about authorizing drone strikes. Also I am stating that she was successfully able to authorize strikes, from the rest of the post it should be clear that these strikes themselves are horrendous.
Benghazi is another scenario of recklessness, but is a separate issue from Obama's drone campaign. My post is regarding flying unmanned aerial vehicles into Northwest Pakistan.
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Throwing this out there, because this sounds like a rare open minded discussion. I am a lefty, from a town of lefties and I actually think trump is the choice if it had to be one of the two.
My reason, which is one oddly neither side talks about is Obama's drone assassination campaign, that Hillary approved of all but 1% of the strikes that took place while she was secretary of state.
This campaign takes out thousands of people with no judge or jury, and has horrifically only a 10% accuracy of even getting the right guy. There are some terrifying interviews on youtube of drone "pilots" where they describe just how little information they go off of when deploying the drones.
So my thought is this, I would be petrified if this sort of thing were happening in my town, so why would I wish this on the people of Pakistan? I think this is a fair question for people considering to vote Hillary.
Trump has a bombastic, and volatile personality that many are assuming I think fairly to a degree that this will translate to poor and violent military decisions. With Hillary though we know this for certain, she has done this successfully as secretary of state with a republican congress and has stated that she wants to continue it as president.
So at the end of the day, if you truly care about women even if it isn't "sexist", while Donald has assaulted them sexually, Hillary has literally sent drones to blow up their children. And if you truly care about non-white people, that should also apply to the lives of non-whites living in other parts of the world right?
Can't stand Trump as much as the next Hillary supporter but can't find anything about him that worries me as much as the thought of a drone flying into my house at any given moment, which has been the reality for many in the middle east.
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Very interesting point that I hadn't thought about. I agree that drones could be a gateway into something very dangerous.
I used to consider myself much more left. And to some extent, I feel like I still am on quite a few social issues.
That being said, recently I have realized that a lot of leftists such as Hillary sadly are all about giving mostly false hope. All saying the right things, but not really doing them. Her and her supporters preach and preach and preach, but their actions sometimes say otherwise. For example, like you said, preaching for women and minorities when they approve of drone strikes. Or advocating for more syrian refugees to come in when hate crimes targeted toward LGBT people or just anyone happen partly because of some of the beliefs held in those parts of the world.
Trump has had his issues for sure, but I feel like he has a little bit more integrity than Hillary.
The issue which you brought up is a real issue, and it's a shame that more people aren't aware or considering things such as that. I think that is largely the fault of the media.
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Thanks, I'm glad you found it interesting.
I couldn't agree more about this. I think Obama said when he was running against Hillary, that she will say everything and do nothing. And to some extent that became true of his own presidency, at least in regards to sticking up for working class people.
While I feel like this term is often misused I think there truly is a double standard when it comes to Islam in regards to homo/transphobia as you pointed out. And this is something I'm yet to even hear an irrational explanation for.
I would agree. This is my biggest issue with voting Hillary, while my biggest issue with voting Trump isn't even him but the GOP platform that states things like declaring porn a public health crisis, or wanting to reverse the legalization of gay marriage. And none of these are things I've really heard talked about even on independent online media.
Successfully?...as in Benghazi, where for diplomats lost their lives due to her incompetency?
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My post is specifically about authorizing drone strikes. Also I am stating that she was successfully able to authorize strikes, from the rest of the post it should be clear that these strikes themselves are horrendous.
Benghazi is another scenario of recklessness, but is a separate issue from Obama's drone campaign. My post is regarding flying unmanned aerial vehicles into Northwest Pakistan.