I do not respect the first two links as actual Biblical study. I have a hard time seeing any criticism that actually uses the word "Boring" when speaking academically as a valid criticism. I've read many of their passages and they are by far, no where near the best criticism of the Bible I have ever found. It looks like teenagers that had a V for Vendetta against religion scribbling in a Bible.
More than half of the Mormon church members are people that are non-white. Many of them hold the high priesthood or hold positions of authority, meaning that they were found to be just as worthy and as high of virtue as the white members. If we're being bluntly racist, we're doing a horrible job at it or there are a lot of self-hating non-white people out there. I'm willing to believe either.
There has been a lot of stuff said about Joseph Smith, mainly from other churches that tried to slander his name and in much part from people that tried to steal his works and failed in their attempts. Most of the formal criticism came from other churches. If there are any atheist sources which display said criticism, likely the criticism was ripped off from other churches.
There's plenty one can assume from any doctrine, both Biblical and the Book of Mormon. That's why Theologists in many churches work to clean it up. The problem is, they can often bend or twist doctrine into meanings that they see more fit.
However, this post isn't about my religion. This post is about racism. If you have any other questions about it and if you wish to have an adult discussion with me about my religion, then you can PM me or wait until I post on a topic in which religion is a valid point of discussion. Thank you for your interest.
"I do not respect the first two links as actual Biblical study."
Well, those links simply quote what it clearly says. It simply IS racist, whether you respect the links or not.
"I have a hard time seeing any criticism that actually uses the word "Boring" when speaking academically as a valid criticism."
I understand. I agree the website has quite some flaws. However, I don't think the usage of the word "boring" automatically discredits the whole website entirely. On the contrary, I think - despite its flaws - it CLEARLY demonstrates Mormonism to be a racist, historically fraudulent and overall batshit-insane faith. I mean, just the baptism of dead people is EXTREMELY cuckoo in my view (not to mention dsrespectful).
"More than half of the Mormon church members are people that are non-white."
That may be the case NOW, but before 1978 it wasn't. Apparently, God changed his mind. Sure, Mormons may be more tolerant now (which is nice), but unfortunately, they're also pretty hypocritical, since Mormonism REALLY IS racist.
"If there are any atheist sources which display said criticism, likely the criticism was ripped off from other churches."
Maybe so, but would that really matter? Truth is truth, no matter where it comes from, and the truth is that Joseph Smith simply was a racist and a fraud.
"There's plenty one can assume from any doctrine, both Biblical and the Book of Mormon."
Well, when it comes to certain topics perhaps, but the Book of Mormon is pretty clear on non-whites.
"However, this post isn't about my religion. This post is about racism."
Yes, that is true. Still, when you mentioned Mormonism, I just couldn't resist, as it's a very racist religion in my view.
If you want to have this discussion, PM me. There are many reasons why I don't respect the links, that was one of them. If you wish to have a discussion regarding doctrine and you are truly curious, PM me with your questions and concerns or go to Mormon.org find a ward in your area and speak to the Bishop or missionaries of that ward. They are much more well read on church history and doctrine, asking me is like asking for professional psychiatric opinions from someone who has only taken one class.
If you're really serious in having a religious discussion, go for the head haunchos, not little fodder like me. I can only tell you so much.
So once again, PM me, or speak to a Bishop or ward missionary if you're truly curious. Otherwise, I'm closing this discussion.
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I do not respect the first two links as actual Biblical study. I have a hard time seeing any criticism that actually uses the word "Boring" when speaking academically as a valid criticism. I've read many of their passages and they are by far, no where near the best criticism of the Bible I have ever found. It looks like teenagers that had a V for Vendetta against religion scribbling in a Bible.
More than half of the Mormon church members are people that are non-white. Many of them hold the high priesthood or hold positions of authority, meaning that they were found to be just as worthy and as high of virtue as the white members. If we're being bluntly racist, we're doing a horrible job at it or there are a lot of self-hating non-white people out there. I'm willing to believe either.
There has been a lot of stuff said about Joseph Smith, mainly from other churches that tried to slander his name and in much part from people that tried to steal his works and failed in their attempts. Most of the formal criticism came from other churches. If there are any atheist sources which display said criticism, likely the criticism was ripped off from other churches.
There's plenty one can assume from any doctrine, both Biblical and the Book of Mormon. That's why Theologists in many churches work to clean it up. The problem is, they can often bend or twist doctrine into meanings that they see more fit.
However, this post isn't about my religion. This post is about racism. If you have any other questions about it and if you wish to have an adult discussion with me about my religion, then you can PM me or wait until I post on a topic in which religion is a valid point of discussion. Thank you for your interest.
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"I do not respect the first two links as actual Biblical study."
Well, those links simply quote what it clearly says. It simply IS racist, whether you respect the links or not.
"I have a hard time seeing any criticism that actually uses the word "Boring" when speaking academically as a valid criticism."
I understand. I agree the website has quite some flaws. However, I don't think the usage of the word "boring" automatically discredits the whole website entirely. On the contrary, I think - despite its flaws - it CLEARLY demonstrates Mormonism to be a racist, historically fraudulent and overall batshit-insane faith. I mean, just the baptism of dead people is EXTREMELY cuckoo in my view (not to mention dsrespectful).
"More than half of the Mormon church members are people that are non-white."
That may be the case NOW, but before 1978 it wasn't. Apparently, God changed his mind. Sure, Mormons may be more tolerant now (which is nice), but unfortunately, they're also pretty hypocritical, since Mormonism REALLY IS racist.
"If there are any atheist sources which display said criticism, likely the criticism was ripped off from other churches."
Maybe so, but would that really matter? Truth is truth, no matter where it comes from, and the truth is that Joseph Smith simply was a racist and a fraud.
"There's plenty one can assume from any doctrine, both Biblical and the Book of Mormon."
Well, when it comes to certain topics perhaps, but the Book of Mormon is pretty clear on non-whites.
"However, this post isn't about my religion. This post is about racism."
Yes, that is true. Still, when you mentioned Mormonism, I just couldn't resist, as it's a very racist religion in my view.
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If you want to have this discussion, PM me. There are many reasons why I don't respect the links, that was one of them. If you wish to have a discussion regarding doctrine and you are truly curious, PM me with your questions and concerns or go to Mormon.org find a ward in your area and speak to the Bishop or missionaries of that ward. They are much more well read on church history and doctrine, asking me is like asking for professional psychiatric opinions from someone who has only taken one class.
If you're really serious in having a religious discussion, go for the head haunchos, not little fodder like me. I can only tell you so much.
So once again, PM me, or speak to a Bishop or ward missionary if you're truly curious. Otherwise, I'm closing this discussion.