If something as complex as the universe requires the existence of an intelligent designer, surely something as complex as the designer also requires a designer and so would the designer of the designer and so on.
If there is a designer, why does it have to be what ever God you believe that designed it? For all anyone knows, a dark matter rainbow goblin could have shit the universe in to existence. You can't prove that isn't the case.
The flaws in human physiology are either evidence of a process the leaves, now useless, residual adaptations like evolution or evidence of an incompetent designer. Can an infallible being create a way for human to die if they don't swallow their food correctly? Would an infallible being create a useless organ that can get easily infected and kill a human--the appendix. Why do we need glasses? Why do our teeth decay long before death?
To me, if there is a designer, he wouldn't need to be created - his all powerful nature would see his qualities as impossible for us to comprehend. He would encompass everything, and would be infinite in many ways. Certainly, this explanation makes more sense than nothing resulting in everything, at least to me.
Now, having believed that there was a God, I wanted to know more about him. It would seem logical to me that if this universe has a creator, he would leave some sort of message explaining things to us, and the Bible seems to be just that - it claims to be a direct message from an omnipotent God, telling us our origins, giving us instructions, describing different notions. I choose to believe in the Bible, because to me it makes the most sense of all theistic religions that I have come across - and, after reading it, I have a sense, almost like a reassurance that it is in fact true.
As for the flaws in human physiology that you have mentioned, the Bible explains them as us becoming imperfect as a result of sinning. I think life is a beautiful gift, despite my numerous flaws, though God through the Bible reassures that I, and fellow believers will be restored to perfection upon our deaths, which is an even greater gift.
"if there is a designer, he wouldn't need to be created - his all powerful nature would see his qualities as impossible for us to comprehend."
Your first point is a contradiction. If we can not comprehend anything about him, how can you claim to know whether or not he was created? How do you know he would be infinite? Either you know something about a topic you have deemed incomprehensible or this does not support your point.
"this explanation makes more sense than nothing resulting in everything, at least to me."
Simply because something makes more or less sense to you does not mean it does not make sense. Energy with regard to time, like quantum particles, operates according to the uncertainty principal--you can not measure the exact energy of anything at no one point in time. This is because at the quantum level, things can literally be in more than one place. This principle applies to zero, also. As a result, zero can be both zero and nonzero. So, at the quantum level, nothing can be both nothing and not nothing (AKA something).
"It would seem logical to me that if this universe has a creator . . ."
Again, how can anything about a being you yourself have deemed incomprehensible be logical to you? That is a contradiction.
"I choose to believe in the Bible, because to me it makes the most sense . . ."
The bible is full of contradictions. The first one: in Genesis 1, humans were created after the animals and Adam and Eve were created simultaneously. In Genesis 2, Adam was created first, then the animals, then Eve. They both can't be true. One has to be wrong. Otherwise, it would be a contradiction. The bible is flawed. Therefore, anything said in it, cannot be taken at its word.
According to you, belief in contradiction is apparently easy.
Also, you never dealt with my point regarding the dark matter rainbow goblin. Like your belief in God, the belief in such a goblin can not be disproven. That is the flaw in both of those theories.
Indeed, I should have put the word 'some' before the word 'qualities' during my first point, that should clear that up. For example, the concept of existence is a straightforward notion to understand.
As for the quantum physics you quote, I admit that I'm no expert however I know this; if you have nothing, there's nothing. Nothing means no energy, no physical matter - and hence the concept of time is eradicated, as there is no way to measure it if nothing changes.
As for what you call the Genesis contradiction, you must have first assumed that both chapters must be in chronological order; but try reading through again, with chapter 1 being chronological, and chapter 2 being a non-chronological recap/summary of events. For example, the animals need not be mentioned before Adam in a recap, as he named them.
I do not claim my beliefs to be fact, so the shit goblin has little impact. I have a faith in being correct, it's an integral part of Christianity, though I do not exlude the possibility of being incorrect.
And, are you an evolutionist?
does God exist or not?
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If something as complex as the universe requires the existence of an intelligent designer, surely something as complex as the designer also requires a designer and so would the designer of the designer and so on.
If there is a designer, why does it have to be what ever God you believe that designed it? For all anyone knows, a dark matter rainbow goblin could have shit the universe in to existence. You can't prove that isn't the case.
The flaws in human physiology are either evidence of a process the leaves, now useless, residual adaptations like evolution or evidence of an incompetent designer. Can an infallible being create a way for human to die if they don't swallow their food correctly? Would an infallible being create a useless organ that can get easily infected and kill a human--the appendix. Why do we need glasses? Why do our teeth decay long before death?
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To me, if there is a designer, he wouldn't need to be created - his all powerful nature would see his qualities as impossible for us to comprehend. He would encompass everything, and would be infinite in many ways. Certainly, this explanation makes more sense than nothing resulting in everything, at least to me.
Now, having believed that there was a God, I wanted to know more about him. It would seem logical to me that if this universe has a creator, he would leave some sort of message explaining things to us, and the Bible seems to be just that - it claims to be a direct message from an omnipotent God, telling us our origins, giving us instructions, describing different notions. I choose to believe in the Bible, because to me it makes the most sense of all theistic religions that I have come across - and, after reading it, I have a sense, almost like a reassurance that it is in fact true.
As for the flaws in human physiology that you have mentioned, the Bible explains them as us becoming imperfect as a result of sinning. I think life is a beautiful gift, despite my numerous flaws, though God through the Bible reassures that I, and fellow believers will be restored to perfection upon our deaths, which is an even greater gift.
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"if there is a designer, he wouldn't need to be created - his all powerful nature would see his qualities as impossible for us to comprehend."
Your first point is a contradiction. If we can not comprehend anything about him, how can you claim to know whether or not he was created? How do you know he would be infinite? Either you know something about a topic you have deemed incomprehensible or this does not support your point.
"this explanation makes more sense than nothing resulting in everything, at least to me."
Simply because something makes more or less sense to you does not mean it does not make sense. Energy with regard to time, like quantum particles, operates according to the uncertainty principal--you can not measure the exact energy of anything at no one point in time. This is because at the quantum level, things can literally be in more than one place. This principle applies to zero, also. As a result, zero can be both zero and nonzero. So, at the quantum level, nothing can be both nothing and not nothing (AKA something).
"It would seem logical to me that if this universe has a creator . . ."
Again, how can anything about a being you yourself have deemed incomprehensible be logical to you? That is a contradiction.
"I choose to believe in the Bible, because to me it makes the most sense . . ."
The bible is full of contradictions. The first one: in Genesis 1, humans were created after the animals and Adam and Eve were created simultaneously. In Genesis 2, Adam was created first, then the animals, then Eve. They both can't be true. One has to be wrong. Otherwise, it would be a contradiction. The bible is flawed. Therefore, anything said in it, cannot be taken at its word.
According to you, belief in contradiction is apparently easy.
Also, you never dealt with my point regarding the dark matter rainbow goblin. Like your belief in God, the belief in such a goblin can not be disproven. That is the flaw in both of those theories.
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Indeed, I should have put the word 'some' before the word 'qualities' during my first point, that should clear that up. For example, the concept of existence is a straightforward notion to understand.
As for the quantum physics you quote, I admit that I'm no expert however I know this; if you have nothing, there's nothing. Nothing means no energy, no physical matter - and hence the concept of time is eradicated, as there is no way to measure it if nothing changes.
As for what you call the Genesis contradiction, you must have first assumed that both chapters must be in chronological order; but try reading through again, with chapter 1 being chronological, and chapter 2 being a non-chronological recap/summary of events. For example, the animals need not be mentioned before Adam in a recap, as he named them.
I do not claim my beliefs to be fact, so the shit goblin has little impact. I have a faith in being correct, it's an integral part of Christianity, though I do not exlude the possibility of being incorrect.
And, are you an evolutionist?