I really doubt that. According to wikipedia most MSG on the market IS natural, it's made by bacterial fermentation of sugar.
More likely the problem is that having it in pure form makes it possible to add a ridiculous quantity to food, which some people apparently have a bad reaction to.
Fair point I guess, that article did seem a little bit slanted. Do you have a more reliable source indicating that MSG is NOT produced by fermentation?
I didn't have anything stored in my collection directly pertaining to this topic, but I have found some neat pieces recently.... Here's one:
http://www.truthinlabeling.org/WhatIsMSG.html
"Simply stated, MSG is glutamic acid that has been manufactured in a food or chemical plant or created by fermentation. In every case, the glutamic acid that has been manufactured in food or chemical plants or created by fermentation is accompanied by unwanted byproducts of manufacture referred to as impurities.
"Unprocessed/unadulterated/unfermented protein in any meat, fish, fruit, grain, vegetable etc., contains glutamic acid but no impurities.
"Unprocessed/unadulterated/unfermented mushrooms and tomatoes contain glutamic acid, but they do not contain MSG."
FURTHERMORE:
"Prior to 1957, MSG was made by extracting glutamic acid from protein. Some MSG is still made that way, but since 1957, MSG has also been produced using genetically modified bacteria (genetically modified organisms or GMO’s), that secrete glutamic acid through their cell walls."
Hmmm... You wouldn't happen to know just how bad any form of GMO can be for you... would you? I'd be happy to tell you ALLLLLLL~ about them. :D
Okay... so now it's a GMOs. I admit I'm a bit skeptical about that being a good idea (although GMOs are currently keeping my sister alive). I can't find any information on whether most Corynebacterium glutamicum used in MSG production is GM or not, but it may well be.
But that "impurities" talk is nonsense. In the context of MSG production, anything other than MSG is an impurity. Of course no product is ever going to be 100% pure. But somehow fresh meat and produce are magically "pure", only because they changed the definition. If a tomato fell the the fermentation vat it would be considered loaded with impurities. And it's not like everything in tomatoes harmless, they contain detectable levels of nicotine, for instance. By any objective standard, natural products are LESS pure. So basically this is the stupidest argument ever. (I realize you were only quoting that from somewhere, so no offense intended.)
To be completely honest, I had no idea that MSG was produced by Genetically Modified bacteria until when I started doing this research. And, I don't really understand the impurities argument here either, but it just got copy/pasted along with the rest of it all.
Edit: Nicotine in tomatoes? Interesting.... well, the tomato IS in the nightshade family along with tobacco, so I guess it doesn't surprise me. :P
I did read it, and you shifted from blaming MSG to blaming GMO's (which, notably, you admittedly "didn't even realize were used in MSG manufacture"....which tells us something...). Choose one, and effectively PROVE it's harmful or else shut up and realize you have been suckered.
Do you use MSG in your cooking?
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The naturally occurring amino acid is perfectly safe... it's the manufactured version called MSG that is harmful.
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I really doubt that. According to wikipedia most MSG on the market IS natural, it's made by bacterial fermentation of sugar.
More likely the problem is that having it in pure form makes it possible to add a ridiculous quantity to food, which some people apparently have a bad reaction to.
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Which is why I never use Wikipedia as a reliable source of information...
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Fair point I guess, that article did seem a little bit slanted. Do you have a more reliable source indicating that MSG is NOT produced by fermentation?
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I didn't have anything stored in my collection directly pertaining to this topic, but I have found some neat pieces recently.... Here's one:
http://www.truthinlabeling.org/WhatIsMSG.html
"Simply stated, MSG is glutamic acid that has been manufactured in a food or chemical plant or created by fermentation. In every case, the glutamic acid that has been manufactured in food or chemical plants or created by fermentation is accompanied by unwanted byproducts of manufacture referred to as impurities.
"Unprocessed/unadulterated/unfermented protein in any meat, fish, fruit, grain, vegetable etc., contains glutamic acid but no impurities.
"Unprocessed/unadulterated/unfermented mushrooms and tomatoes contain glutamic acid, but they do not contain MSG."
FURTHERMORE:
"Prior to 1957, MSG was made by extracting glutamic acid from protein. Some MSG is still made that way, but since 1957, MSG has also been produced using genetically modified bacteria (genetically modified organisms or GMO’s), that secrete glutamic acid through their cell walls."
Hmmm... You wouldn't happen to know just how bad any form of GMO can be for you... would you? I'd be happy to tell you ALLLLLLL~ about them. :D
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Okay... so now it's a GMOs. I admit I'm a bit skeptical about that being a good idea (although GMOs are currently keeping my sister alive). I can't find any information on whether most Corynebacterium glutamicum used in MSG production is GM or not, but it may well be.
But that "impurities" talk is nonsense. In the context of MSG production, anything other than MSG is an impurity. Of course no product is ever going to be 100% pure. But somehow fresh meat and produce are magically "pure", only because they changed the definition. If a tomato fell the the fermentation vat it would be considered loaded with impurities. And it's not like everything in tomatoes harmless, they contain detectable levels of nicotine, for instance. By any objective standard, natural products are LESS pure. So basically this is the stupidest argument ever. (I realize you were only quoting that from somewhere, so no offense intended.)
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To be completely honest, I had no idea that MSG was produced by Genetically Modified bacteria until when I started doing this research. And, I don't really understand the impurities argument here either, but it just got copy/pasted along with the rest of it all.
Edit: Nicotine in tomatoes? Interesting.... well, the tomato IS in the nightshade family along with tobacco, so I guess it doesn't surprise me. :P
I don't believe the body can tell the difference. I don't think there IS a difference.
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See response to Couman above...
Short answer... TOMATOES DON'T CONTAIN GMO'S.
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So now it's not the MSG itself but impurities that "may" come along from the production process? Make up your mind.
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Try reading it again! You didn't read the entire body of text, or you read what you WANTED TO READ.
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I did read it, and you shifted from blaming MSG to blaming GMO's (which, notably, you admittedly "didn't even realize were used in MSG manufacture"....which tells us something...). Choose one, and effectively PROVE it's harmful or else shut up and realize you have been suckered.
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Fuck you, I tried talking and researching with you, but now you just want to be a jerk about it. I'm too fucking tired to waste anymore effort on you.