But the driver is drunk because the driver being drunk was meant to happen. You say the driver is only drunk because he drunk too much alcohol? The driver drinking too much alcohol was meant to happen. He only drunk too much because his friends persuaded him to? That peer pressure was meant to happen. You can trace it right back forever.
I can say the exact same thing about cause and effect. The cause was peer pressure, and the effect was, (I'll just call the person Guy from now on) Guy getting drunk. The cause was Guy being drunk, and the effect was him hitting someone. My cause and effect claim can be traced to forever as well. Also, I'm not undersaying your use of "meant". Are you implying there's some sort of premade map to everything, or are you saying that something made it that way? Or that everything happens for a reason? Clarify what you mean by "meant".
By 'meant', I mean there is a premade map to everything... only it's not PREmade, because that would imply it was made before anything happened, when in actual fact it was made outside of time itself.
I find it really hard to explain what I'm on about haha. Yes it is cause and effect, but because it did happen, it was MEANT to happen. Simply because it could not have happened any other way, because then we wouldn't be living in this world, we'd be living in an alternate reality, where that thing didn't happen. (I don't believe there actually are alternate realities, that's just theoretical.)
Make sense?
Do you think whatever is meant to happen will happen?
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But the driver is drunk because the driver being drunk was meant to happen. You say the driver is only drunk because he drunk too much alcohol? The driver drinking too much alcohol was meant to happen. He only drunk too much because his friends persuaded him to? That peer pressure was meant to happen. You can trace it right back forever.
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I can say the exact same thing about cause and effect. The cause was peer pressure, and the effect was, (I'll just call the person Guy from now on) Guy getting drunk. The cause was Guy being drunk, and the effect was him hitting someone. My cause and effect claim can be traced to forever as well. Also, I'm not undersaying your use of "meant". Are you implying there's some sort of premade map to everything, or are you saying that something made it that way? Or that everything happens for a reason? Clarify what you mean by "meant".
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By 'meant', I mean there is a premade map to everything... only it's not PREmade, because that would imply it was made before anything happened, when in actual fact it was made outside of time itself.
I find it really hard to explain what I'm on about haha. Yes it is cause and effect, but because it did happen, it was MEANT to happen. Simply because it could not have happened any other way, because then we wouldn't be living in this world, we'd be living in an alternate reality, where that thing didn't happen. (I don't believe there actually are alternate realities, that's just theoretical.)
Make sense?
That's cause and effect, not a set destiny.
Agreed