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I mean, it's one of the things splitting this world apart.
I think people take things to extremes. Religion or anything else.
Depends on your religion
Aye.. Extremism seems to mainly be the preserve of the Abrahamic lot. The desert cults as I call them! Without Christians Jews or Muslims the rest of the religions could get along with each other happily.
That is not historically accurate. Intolerance and harsh social rules and structures were and are quite common to politheistic religions as well.
It is the religions that believe in multiple Gods that are wrong.
You kind of of prove my point with that answer. None of them would say that about you!
How come they all get on with each other where the monotheists are horrible to anybody who doesn't agree with their version of god?
They actually would say that, because they have different beliefs than me.
Stop trying to make the multiple God believers sound all innocent, and the One-God people sound like criminals.
Stop with your defamation. It doesnt work on me.
Religions aren't plagues. The human race is.
I think a lot of people have a problem with reliigion, but I don't think it's going deep enough to solve the root to call it a plague. Most popular religious texts stripped down are just common sense stuff like, "Hey, murdering people? Maybe don't do that." So if people want to dig deep and stop the problem, they need to identify the roots. It's like humanity is obsessed with being in clubs, then decides the club sucks and they're going to start their own club with black jack and other things. I think the problem isn't religion, I think it's a flaw with people that needs a better solution.
Murdering people, hey maybe don't do that?
LOL I've got the impression that most religions are more something like: masturbate? Be tortured in hell for eternity...
Wait what book says that
Actually, the Bible doesn't forbid masturbation expressly. The reason why (many) Christians are against it is that sex is presented in the Bible as an expression of relationship, and of bonds between people. Masturbation is against this purpose. Logically, then, masturbation between couples is thus fine. But protestants tend to abide by conscience, not rules, so it'd be right for some and not right for others. We can often sense if we are displeasing God by our actions: like when you've dispeased anyone, there's a kind of distance...
"Don't murder people... Unless they're gay, unreligious, your child and they talked back to you, your daughter who had sex before marriage, or your slave who disobeyed you. The slave has to be alive for a least a day after you wound them of course."
As long as someone isnt forcing their religion onto me, I see no problem.
Problem with that is while my neighbor may not be ramming the good book down my throat, we (USA) have systematically deemed ourself as a christian nation. MOST people get the major christian holidays off. But Judaism or Islam or any other religion, pfff forget that. We don't want to honor YOUR religion.
Actually I can get my holidays off. I just have to ask.
Yes we can ASK for those days off but you are still expected to catch up on missed (school) work or take it as an extra holiday... If it were easter or something, more places are willing to give you the day off for free or something there of.
But if your asked to give up something that isn't one of your holidays so you can get your holiday off why would you care. It's not your holiday. So let someone else take it off. And the work would still be given even if it wasn't your holiday. You just want your cake and eat it too. I give up Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years every year. No problem. But I get Samhain (Halloween) and Yule off every year. No one complains.
where I work I get Christmas and easter off but they won't let me trade in those holidays for Hanukkah and Passover. If I want those days off, I have to take them on my own time.
I would gladly come in on Christmas and work but the office closes on that day.
Read your employ handbook and talk to you HR department. In America your employer is required to give you your holidays off.
It's combination of religion and political power that is lethal.
If it's a personal and private belief then fuck it. It's not necessarily correct or truthful but it's not really hurting anyone.
I am an athiest and its funny and sad at the same time when people say you need religion to be moral like what the fuck!?!?
So according to that if a religious person does not follow religion they would just be a monster or a person without moral? thats fucked up!!
They NEED a book to tell them that they need to be moral?? They cant live on their on. Religions in true sense is a plague, hampers everything and most importantly common sense.
People choose to believe in stupid ass facts and not science and common sense
@Annie25 LOL. I love atheists. There's nothing like a group of people who run around and call everyone who doesn't believe exactly what they do stupid. Mostly out of a misplaced sense of superiority. That's just like people in religious people do.
By the way Atheism is the rejection in the belief of deities. Not religion.
U so dumb man. Rejection of deities and not religion? What is religion? Huh? Practice and worshipping of GODS AND DETIES is known as religion.
religion can be defined as a relatively-bounded system of beliefs, symbols and practices that addresses the nature of existence.
It doesn't have to have any deities in that belief structure. For instance Buddhism and Jainism. Zen is another example.
Also writing "U so dumb man" while attempting to call me dumb, is dumb.
I would just like to point out that there are also non-theistic religions.
Dude have you read the book? The amount of shit thats written and all the nonsense😂😂 go ahead and remember if and when your daughter gets raped someday all you have to do is ask 50 fucking shekels from the rapist and hand your daughterover to him.
Well this isnt me speaking I just quoted your fucking bible.
The book? Which book? There are thousands of holy texts. I assume your speaking of the Bible. Did you know there are five different Bibles? And those are the mainstream ones. Then you add in the Torah, the Quran, and all the apocryphal texts. And that's just the western religions.
Also I am not a member of the Western religions. To put it so you can understand it. I don't believe in the "fucking bible".
I am a Wiccan. So please reserve your disdain for someone who deserves it.
Yes , you need religion to be moral , not you , your savage ancestors
See the thing is I am against slavery, rape, sexism just like that I am more moral than your god😂😂
you wouldnt have been against them if you happened to be born before 100 years so ...
Religion plus sociopaths/narcissists equals evil and a shitty world. Abolish religion and eliminate the evil crazies:)
Religions are a form of social organization, and they do not ALWAYS neccessarily contribute to aggravating social problems. Some religious communities even struggle to address such problems, and there is a lot of variation between them. While conservative images of religion are more familiar, there are also thousands of liberal communities and believers around the world. It's not that easy to summarize all of religion with a simple negative judgment.
"Faith and reason are like the shoes on you feet: It's much better to have both than just one."
Applause. Also I love the name.
Selfishness and pride are "a plague".
I don't think religion itself is a plague, just the people who are in it. It's like fandoms (any group really even countries). Like for example, Undertale is a good game. Some of the fans who took interest in it created an Undertale following i.e. A fandom. If you've ever heard anything from Undertale it was probably that the fans suck, they're annoying, they push their beliefs onto you, or hates anyone not in there group.
Most would say biggest religion offenders are Christians.
But that's dependent on your opinions.
People can and do bad things with or without having religion.
to say all religion is or isn't negative is to make a huge generalization. most western christianity is harmless, for example. I don't consider nice old ladies who bring lemon bars to their weekly bible study to be a "plague," and if you do, your viewpoint is the malignant one. however, there are other types of religious people that are purely toxic, such as the westboro baptists and radical islam. all in all, religious folks are just people: some wouldn't hurt a fly, others we could do without.
What do you define as splitting the world apart? And why is it bad?
World peace doesn't exist because of religion, racism, world hunger, etc...
by splitting the world apart I meant like it's hard for people to get along
While each religion or to be fair each faction of each religion could be analyzed as to how members within it get along with one another, I assume the point that you're making is referring to the difficulties that arise between multiple religions/sects within a religion/religious vs non religious people. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Here the aspect of religion that makes it difficult for people to get along is tribalism, something that exists just as much in pre-religious/current nonreligious societies (tribes). To have even a sample of several thousand people exist without there being multiple tribes at odds with one another is very difficult to achieve. In fact the only mechanism that has been able to hold peace across very large groups is religion.
And how exactly are you sure about this? 🤔
There is plenty of information on hunter-gatherer societies I have studied out of passion to some extent. I don't mean to be making any big claim here. Simply that tribalism exists independent of religion. And that religious sects individually are the largest coexisting groups of people the world has seen. Both of these should be evident.
I would compare this to gun issues. A gun can be used for good, or to protect yourself. But there will always be people who take it too far, or people who cannot handle it. The gun isn't to blame. The person is.
People can't be trusted with guns like they can't be trusted with religion.
Look at the homicide statistics for the one western country that has guns lying around the house compared to those for all the rest that have strict gun laws.
Sorry, I just hate people who are anti-gun and use that tired old logic.
In those countries they use other things to kill each other. Like anything and everything. People who want to kill people will use anything handy.
I live near bear country (also cougar, copperhead snakes, ect). So to protect myself and those I care about I NEED a gun. No your right it's better that I get mauled and bleed to death to protect your high minded baseless argument.
So you haven't looked at the homicide statistics then?
Yes I have.
So what do you think of them? America's statistics are up there with war-torn countries like Iran.
Coincidence or something to do owning a gun being as 'normal' as owning a car.
@Recluded You can't hear it but I'm applauding right now.
No, it's not a plague. Plagues spread from host to host, without consent from the host. Religion is the mind of the host forcing itself willingly onto unwilling other types of religious and non-religious minds. The mechanics are different. While bacteria or viruses infect a human, religion is one with the human.
I love this answer
I love this reply.
Except Darwinian selection applies to the survival of ideas, just like resistance applies to the survival of germs. Consider this. People in a society trade and talk about ideas all the time. Bad ideas are forgotten, good ideas are given to other people. Only the ideas that help the culture to survive last thru the centuries.
One of the most persuasive ideas of all time is Resurrection. The pharoas of Egypt told the slaves that the pyramids they were building were resurrection machines that would guarantee them a new better life. This lie pushed Egyptian civilization to supreme levels.
Science is slowly passing religion as the superior mindset needed to create a domainant culture.
That's a very interesting way of looking at it.
You need jesus inside you.
No thanks. I may be in favor of gay rights, but that doesn't mean I want the Christ going "inside" me.
Yet another 'is religion bad' post?? What is this, Reddit? Simple: if you're an atheist, agnostic or 'spiritual but not religious', you probably don't think religion is great. Most people on here are fall into one of the above categories. Voilà. There's your vote outcome.
Get rid of the desert cults.. Judaism Christianity and Islam, and the rest of the world's religions can get along happily with each other.
in a memologic sense, yes
I religions is fundamentally a way of improving the man at it's best.
Different religions have different opinions on what this "Best" is, and how to get there, though.
Religion is never a plague, but it can act like a plague if it teaches about hate and agression towards people not from this religion (much like islamism, for example)
Truly passific religions can live together in peace (like buddism and hinduism)
But multiculturalism is NEVER a good thing. All great empires of old fell because of that (Rome, Alexander, Khaan, Otoman...)
At the end, interaction between, not only religions, but the culture itself, will always cause problems
Religion, god/gods, were all created by people, and are nothing more than make believe. Now we're seeing islam on the rise in free western nations, not good.
Like and awesome
The two words Americans know
All these comments are very helpful. I'm the original poster btw.
i think atheist really hate god and worship lucifer . they start wars for the bankers. Hitler was working for them so was roosevelt
Atheist dont hate god. For that god SHOULD EXIST. Atheist believe that there is no supream power. No god and definitely no devil or satan n stuff.a strong atheist does not believe in any of these and also not in spirituality and stuff. Relogion does no good. Dont you think that its unreasonable that people die of hunger and so many things they dont deserve.. why would god do that? Where was your god during the holocaust and so many numerous examples? And holy book. I suggest you read it throughly. You will understand whats wrong. People never talk about the wrong that written in there because they have never read the whole thing. There is no evidence whatsoever to support any of thats written on there. You think god would be so unjust to women. Like all thats written there for the females??
Read. Dont talk shit when you are not aware.
atheist hate all gods . you are one of them
I wish I could. For that he is suppose to exist. And if he does he better have some good ass excuse for all the time he spent his lazy ass sleeping while people suffered and died ridiculous.
You are so dumb like literally
you misused the word like
Lol. Oh like my like god. Are like you like saying I'm like dumb like.
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