Yes, but God gives each, and every one of us freewill so we can choose for ourselves. I actually think sex without a condom is overrated, and gross if one is not married, and actually trying to have children.
If one is having sex with someone they are not married to, they are committing either simple fornication, seduction, rape, adultery, or incest. If one partakes in any of those acts with a condom, it becomes not -only- whichever sin above that applies, but also the -far- (the emphasis is not hyperbole) more heinous sin by the name of "unnatural vice". If they're going to sin, it is best they sin as little as possible.
I believe that you have a major misinterpretation of the biblical writings. Sex with someone not your wife was commonly accepted as legal in many cases in the bible.
Male sex with multiple woman not their wife is openly legal in the biblical writings.
The actual limitations that I recall is that:
1) A person should not be "promiscuous" (have had a multitude of sexual partners in short order).
2) A priest could only marry a virgin bride.
2) You should not have sex with biological siblings, parents/children, grandparents/grandchildren, both a mother/daughter(dad/son) pair, Sister/brother in law (with an exception if your brother dies childless - where as a family property rights exception exist for ensuring that your sister in law has a child to inherit), two sisters/or two brothers, 1st cousins, and perhaps a few other situations.
It says nothing about it being improper at least for males to have sex with other ladies outside of those groupings (and if fact authorizes sex with female slaves that you either own or your family provides for you).
If you read both some of the oldest books of the Old Testament, and some of the books of the Bible that were removed from the 2nd edition of the King James bible (they were in the 1st version) you will know that there are a number of cases where wives had sex outside of marriage without any punishment (and was in at least one case considered a hero for it).
You have a major misinterpretation of the biblical writings, in that you do not understand that the Bible gives moral authority to the Church, and the Church has said these things.
Please point out the scriptures that says that (I've got at least 8 if not 10 or 12 different versions of the bible in my house to cross check the different interpretations).
I've also read the entire bible (every word), along with a number of seminary school textbooks on possible different interpretations and meanings and other religious concepts; and have 6 yellow pads of notes and observations.
I don't hate you, but the things you said have caused me to feel great hatred my heart.
UNNATURAL VICE IS NOT A GREATER SIN THAN RAPE!!!
I will never believe that birth control is a greater sin than rape, and if that were the way God truly saw it I would cease to believe in him, and never worship him again... but I don't believe God is so shitty, and awful.
I respectful disagree with you, because not everyone wants to reproduce! I've only had sex without a condom a few times in my life, and I don't really think sex with a condom is an unnatural vice. I also think sex without a condom is really overrated, and kinda gross.
I don't think unnatural vice is worse than rape! I think that rapists ought to have their private parts completely amputated from their bodies, and maybe fed to some wild animal. I personally think that rape can be worse than murder!
UNNATURAL VICE AS YOU CALL IT IS NOT WORSE THAT RAPE!!!
Do you know what is good, cutting off a rapist's testicles & penis, forcing said rapist's severed private parts in his mouth, and then duct taping his mouth, and nostrils shut so that piece of shit rapist can choke, and suffocate on his shitty parts to death. I think it's okay for people use vigilante justice against rapists, and child molesters... and all the while I would look the rapist directly in his beady, little eyes while he bleeds, chokes and suffocates death would tell him what a piece of crap he is, and that he never deserved any love, or affection in his life, and his mother should have aborted him. I would tell the rapist that when he dies he will go directly to Hell to meet his maker so that the Devil himself can rape him in his ass, torture him, eat him, and shit him out every day for all eternity. Rapists, and child molesters deserve to suffer unspeakably for their sins! If I had the chance I would gladly encourage a rapist, or child molester to kill himself, because I want him to lose his wretched soul, and suffer for all Eternity! The suffering of those who commit rape is a glorious thing that should be celebrated.
Do you realize that right now as I write this Russian soldiers are probably committing heinous atrocities against Ukrainian civilians, and part of that is rape. If I could snap my fingers, and cause every living rapist on the planet to die a slow, violent and painful death I would. I think it should be legal to hunt down and kill rapists for sport!
I'm pro-life for the most part, but if a rapist impregnates his victim I think he should be slowly tortured to death.
I don't think it's so unnatural to not want to be impregnated, especially if one were to be impregnated by a rapist. Sperm in, and of itself is not special, and I certainly don't believe that bullshit some Christian people say about every sperm is sacred. To me I have always seen sperm as garbage, and no better than shit. Not everyone wants to be open to having children! I think if people want to be together, and even get married, but they don't want to have children that it is their business, and only their private business. Not everyone wants to have children!
Children are better off with married couples so if people want to have sex outside of marriage, because they do it anyway regardless of what you think then they should not be irresponsible, and bring children that they cannot care for into the world!
I don't really care that much about sex myself, but honestly if there were no such thing as birth control I probably wouldn't have ever wanted to have sex in my life, at least not sexual intercourse, because I wouldn't want to every risk getting pregnant when I didn't want the inconvenience of pregnancy, the pain of childbirth, or the responsibility of raising another person.
Those who do not want to reproduce should not be performing the act that leads to reproduction.
Unnatural Vice is leagues worse than rape, since it is not only an injustice and against reason, but against natural law as set forth by God, for the purpose of sex is to allow for reproduction, and to perform it in a way that does not allow for reproduction is the worst thing one can do with the act.
Vigilante justice, by definition, cannot be just.
You insult the rapist so greatly, yet defend those who participate in the considerably worse sin of unnatural vice, who truly deserve far worse than the rapist.
Why would you wish the rapist to eternally damn himself, when he could convert and turn to good at any moment, if God wills?
Allowing random people to hunt down supposed "rapists" is a concept that would be rife with corruption and vengeance.
I question, why do you believe the rapist should be tortured to death only if he impregnates his victim, when the sin he commits is made no worse via the impregnation?
Sperm, though not particularly sacred, is not equivalent to feces, for, unlike feces, sperm has a purpose.
Two people who do not want children getting married is an abuse of the marital rite worthy of annulment, unless it is a Josephite Marriage, in which case, sex is disallowed in the marriage.
Having sex outside of marriage is the irresponsible act; the children are the consequence of that act.
It sounds as though the world would be better, then, in a way, without birth control, because you would have been called to celibacy, rather than unnatural vice.
Are you suggesting I have no sympathy for those who have been raped? The feelings of those who have been raped do not make the sin committed any worse.
Do you think partners should help pay for birth control pills?
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If one is having sex with someone they are not married to, they are committing either simple fornication, seduction, rape, adultery, or incest. If one partakes in any of those acts with a condom, it becomes not -only- whichever sin above that applies, but also the -far- (the emphasis is not hyperbole) more heinous sin by the name of "unnatural vice". If they're going to sin, it is best they sin as little as possible.
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I believe that you have a major misinterpretation of the biblical writings. Sex with someone not your wife was commonly accepted as legal in many cases in the bible.
Male sex with multiple woman not their wife is openly legal in the biblical writings.
The actual limitations that I recall is that:
1) A person should not be "promiscuous" (have had a multitude of sexual partners in short order).
2) A priest could only marry a virgin bride.
2) You should not have sex with biological siblings, parents/children, grandparents/grandchildren, both a mother/daughter(dad/son) pair, Sister/brother in law (with an exception if your brother dies childless - where as a family property rights exception exist for ensuring that your sister in law has a child to inherit), two sisters/or two brothers, 1st cousins, and perhaps a few other situations.
It says nothing about it being improper at least for males to have sex with other ladies outside of those groupings (and if fact authorizes sex with female slaves that you either own or your family provides for you).
If you read both some of the oldest books of the Old Testament, and some of the books of the Bible that were removed from the 2nd edition of the King James bible (they were in the 1st version) you will know that there are a number of cases where wives had sex outside of marriage without any punishment (and was in at least one case considered a hero for it).
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You have a major misinterpretation of the biblical writings, in that you do not understand that the Bible gives moral authority to the Church, and the Church has said these things.
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Please point out the scriptures that says that (I've got at least 8 if not 10 or 12 different versions of the bible in my house to cross check the different interpretations).
I've also read the entire bible (every word), along with a number of seminary school textbooks on possible different interpretations and meanings and other religious concepts; and have 6 yellow pads of notes and observations.
Also which Church are you referring too?
I don't hate you, but the things you said have caused me to feel great hatred my heart.
UNNATURAL VICE IS NOT A GREATER SIN THAN RAPE!!!
I will never believe that birth control is a greater sin than rape, and if that were the way God truly saw it I would cease to believe in him, and never worship him again... but I don't believe God is so shitty, and awful.
Rape should be universally punishable by death!
I respectful disagree with you, because not everyone wants to reproduce! I've only had sex without a condom a few times in my life, and I don't really think sex with a condom is an unnatural vice. I also think sex without a condom is really overrated, and kinda gross.
I don't think unnatural vice is worse than rape! I think that rapists ought to have their private parts completely amputated from their bodies, and maybe fed to some wild animal. I personally think that rape can be worse than murder!
UNNATURAL VICE AS YOU CALL IT IS NOT WORSE THAT RAPE!!!
Do you know what is good, cutting off a rapist's testicles & penis, forcing said rapist's severed private parts in his mouth, and then duct taping his mouth, and nostrils shut so that piece of shit rapist can choke, and suffocate on his shitty parts to death. I think it's okay for people use vigilante justice against rapists, and child molesters... and all the while I would look the rapist directly in his beady, little eyes while he bleeds, chokes and suffocates death would tell him what a piece of crap he is, and that he never deserved any love, or affection in his life, and his mother should have aborted him. I would tell the rapist that when he dies he will go directly to Hell to meet his maker so that the Devil himself can rape him in his ass, torture him, eat him, and shit him out every day for all eternity. Rapists, and child molesters deserve to suffer unspeakably for their sins! If I had the chance I would gladly encourage a rapist, or child molester to kill himself, because I want him to lose his wretched soul, and suffer for all Eternity! The suffering of those who commit rape is a glorious thing that should be celebrated.
Do you realize that right now as I write this Russian soldiers are probably committing heinous atrocities against Ukrainian civilians, and part of that is rape. If I could snap my fingers, and cause every living rapist on the planet to die a slow, violent and painful death I would. I think it should be legal to hunt down and kill rapists for sport!
I'm pro-life for the most part, but if a rapist impregnates his victim I think he should be slowly tortured to death.
I don't think it's so unnatural to not want to be impregnated, especially if one were to be impregnated by a rapist. Sperm in, and of itself is not special, and I certainly don't believe that bullshit some Christian people say about every sperm is sacred. To me I have always seen sperm as garbage, and no better than shit. Not everyone wants to be open to having children! I think if people want to be together, and even get married, but they don't want to have children that it is their business, and only their private business. Not everyone wants to have children!
Children are better off with married couples so if people want to have sex outside of marriage, because they do it anyway regardless of what you think then they should not be irresponsible, and bring children that they cannot care for into the world!
I don't really care that much about sex myself, but honestly if there were no such thing as birth control I probably wouldn't have ever wanted to have sex in my life, at least not sexual intercourse, because I wouldn't want to every risk getting pregnant when I didn't want the inconvenience of pregnancy, the pain of childbirth, or the responsibility of raising another person.
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Those who do not want to reproduce should not be performing the act that leads to reproduction.
Unnatural Vice is leagues worse than rape, since it is not only an injustice and against reason, but against natural law as set forth by God, for the purpose of sex is to allow for reproduction, and to perform it in a way that does not allow for reproduction is the worst thing one can do with the act.
Vigilante justice, by definition, cannot be just.
You insult the rapist so greatly, yet defend those who participate in the considerably worse sin of unnatural vice, who truly deserve far worse than the rapist.
Why would you wish the rapist to eternally damn himself, when he could convert and turn to good at any moment, if God wills?
Allowing random people to hunt down supposed "rapists" is a concept that would be rife with corruption and vengeance.
I question, why do you believe the rapist should be tortured to death only if he impregnates his victim, when the sin he commits is made no worse via the impregnation?
Sperm, though not particularly sacred, is not equivalent to feces, for, unlike feces, sperm has a purpose.
Two people who do not want children getting married is an abuse of the marital rite worthy of annulment, unless it is a Josephite Marriage, in which case, sex is disallowed in the marriage.
Having sex outside of marriage is the irresponsible act; the children are the consequence of that act.
It sounds as though the world would be better, then, in a way, without birth control, because you would have been called to celibacy, rather than unnatural vice.
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This persona is so useless that I can't even read these Jesus-chunks.
Actually, you should go by Chunk42 instead.
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You simply do not understand the theology behind it.
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Mm...
Have you ever been raped?
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Are you suggesting I have no sympathy for those who have been raped? The feelings of those who have been raped do not make the sin committed any worse.