@Vetterman, thanx, but what i dont understand is that pplz are sasying that if u that in tabernacle religion, that that is the right religion and that if ur following it, u wont go to hell. and so it mad me think. if that is true, what about alllt he other types of religions in the foreign countries. what if they're not tabernacle? wht if they havent been exposed to that religion? deos that mean that they're going to hell as well?
“Tabernacle”, That is largely a Mormon word, you truly are a seeker! That’s a beautiful thing with a great promise from God: You, will find Him when you seek Him with your whole heart. Which it appears you are doing. I’m impressed, very few individuals actually put more than a casual look into spiritual matters, Bravo!
To answer you, First you have to realize that pastors and teachers have dedicated their lives to a single sect, so their answer will always tend to reflect that sects views., whereas there may be many correct views on different subjects (such as when to baptize). Normally a pastor will profess that they are right, rather than say this is how they do it, although other ways may also be correct.
With Salvation, however, that can be a tricky subject, because the deeper that one seeks it out, the more can be revealed. What I am about to write, I have never heard taught in a church, however, when I have confronted some very well taught pastors, they could not argue against it.
It is very important what you believe, and one of the greatest impotencies’ is that you know why you believe it, to ensure you are following the Truth, not what Man wants you to believe, they can be wrong. So, doing your research, as you are and have done, is vitally important. That being said:
In the bible, there is a book, Jonah. Most people are familiar with the basic of the story and never give it much thought, God tells a guy to go to a distant land (Nineveh) He refuses, God makes a giant fish to sallow him, he repents, the fish spits him out on the beach of Nineveh.
But, if you look further into it, it answers your question. First off, why did God do it? Well He loved the people of Nineveh, and didn’t want to have to judge them, but they were exceedingly evil. So, he sent the best man for the job to tell them to repent (I can explain that statement, but would be long). The reason for the fish is that they worshiped the god Dagon (sp?). How much better than to have a fish vomit a man out to tell the people to repent, when they worship fish? The people repented, God held off the judgment for centuries. See, God did love the people!
Here is where pastors stumble and people don’t think: Jonah never preached about Judaism, nor of the Jewish God to the people, we have no record of it at all. The only thing he said was “Hey, you are going to be destroyed!” He ended up in the fish because he knew God was good and would accept their repentance. But, with this being before the birth of Christ, God was dealing with the people through Judaism, so it should be that they were completely unsaveable without conversion. But they were saved!
It shows that God will reach to people where they are, and IF they want a relationship with Him, He is wanting to have one with them. But, you have to know who HE is, you cannot just make a god who fits into your lifestyle. You do not get to make a god in your image, to fit your own rules . Once you are shown what morals are (and they are written on our hearts, right and wrong is basic in everybody, just most people prefer the wrong and deny the right) you have to be willing to follow after the God who really exists. He is understandable, knowable, and good to all who seek Him. But, He has His rules (morals) and being lesser beings, we have to be willing to accept them.
Right now, Christianity is the way that God has revealed Himself to mankind. However, those who have never had a Bible, those who turn away because of the falsehoods of man taught about God, IF they are seeking and trying for the truth, they will be brought to the truth, and saved from Hell.
Do you think Heaven might actually be a miserable place?
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@Vetterman, thanx, but what i dont understand is that pplz are sasying that if u that in tabernacle religion, that that is the right religion and that if ur following it, u wont go to hell. and so it mad me think. if that is true, what about alllt he other types of religions in the foreign countries. what if they're not tabernacle? wht if they havent been exposed to that religion? deos that mean that they're going to hell as well?
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“Tabernacle”, That is largely a Mormon word, you truly are a seeker! That’s a beautiful thing with a great promise from God: You, will find Him when you seek Him with your whole heart. Which it appears you are doing. I’m impressed, very few individuals actually put more than a casual look into spiritual matters, Bravo!
To answer you, First you have to realize that pastors and teachers have dedicated their lives to a single sect, so their answer will always tend to reflect that sects views., whereas there may be many correct views on different subjects (such as when to baptize). Normally a pastor will profess that they are right, rather than say this is how they do it, although other ways may also be correct.
With Salvation, however, that can be a tricky subject, because the deeper that one seeks it out, the more can be revealed. What I am about to write, I have never heard taught in a church, however, when I have confronted some very well taught pastors, they could not argue against it.
It is very important what you believe, and one of the greatest impotencies’ is that you know why you believe it, to ensure you are following the Truth, not what Man wants you to believe, they can be wrong. So, doing your research, as you are and have done, is vitally important. That being said:
In the bible, there is a book, Jonah. Most people are familiar with the basic of the story and never give it much thought, God tells a guy to go to a distant land (Nineveh) He refuses, God makes a giant fish to sallow him, he repents, the fish spits him out on the beach of Nineveh.
But, if you look further into it, it answers your question. First off, why did God do it? Well He loved the people of Nineveh, and didn’t want to have to judge them, but they were exceedingly evil. So, he sent the best man for the job to tell them to repent (I can explain that statement, but would be long). The reason for the fish is that they worshiped the god Dagon (sp?). How much better than to have a fish vomit a man out to tell the people to repent, when they worship fish? The people repented, God held off the judgment for centuries. See, God did love the people!
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Here is where pastors stumble and people don’t think: Jonah never preached about Judaism, nor of the Jewish God to the people, we have no record of it at all. The only thing he said was “Hey, you are going to be destroyed!” He ended up in the fish because he knew God was good and would accept their repentance. But, with this being before the birth of Christ, God was dealing with the people through Judaism, so it should be that they were completely unsaveable without conversion. But they were saved!
It shows that God will reach to people where they are, and IF they want a relationship with Him, He is wanting to have one with them. But, you have to know who HE is, you cannot just make a god who fits into your lifestyle. You do not get to make a god in your image, to fit your own rules . Once you are shown what morals are (and they are written on our hearts, right and wrong is basic in everybody, just most people prefer the wrong and deny the right) you have to be willing to follow after the God who really exists. He is understandable, knowable, and good to all who seek Him. But, He has His rules (morals) and being lesser beings, we have to be willing to accept them.
Right now, Christianity is the way that God has revealed Himself to mankind. However, those who have never had a Bible, those who turn away because of the falsehoods of man taught about God, IF they are seeking and trying for the truth, they will be brought to the truth, and saved from Hell.