Do you honestly believe that those jobs will go unfilled because of an unattended job fair? Your attitude makes me think you are trying to convince yourself that the solution is simple, not me.
And I worry that Chobani is only a temporary fix to a much bigger problem. I hope they have a sustainable business model otherwise they are only putting a bandaid on a severed artery.
I don't care if you do or do not support the occupation. That is your choice. And pulling out an example of a problem you see is exactly what the occupation is doing. The only difference is that they are taking action while you continue to do nothing productive with your anger. The occupation does not want a hand out, they want to stop feeding the 1%. It's going to take some effort. Do what you will, and allow me the same.
I wasn't saying the jobs would go unfilled, I was commenting on 'where are all these desperate people who are clamoring for jobs'? The purpose of the job fair is not only to apply for jobs, but to network as well. Where was everyone?
Chobani is a local company to me and they are EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT people. Great business people and great members of the community. They are opening this new plant for distribution purposes (a perishable product in HIGH demand) and chse location carefully, both for distribution and a reliable LOCAL milk supply.
Chobani, parent company Agro Farma (2005), (founded by Hamdi Ulukaya) only opened a few years ago, 2007, and has grown so incredibly yet is still a very down-to-earth and concerned company. They're not assholes just looking to make a buck off anything and everyone.
I'm not necessarily tring to change your mind, not at all, you can beleive as you wish...I'm just stating my reasons for NOT believing that way, and asking you to tell ME why I'M right or wrong....I want tthings to think about and to see other points of view.
It doesn't matter why people didn't attend a job fair. To me, it clearly means the people saw no value in it and perhaps the organizers didn't advertise very well. I was only pointing out that what you saw as a missed opportunity will not effect the unemployment rates.
And I didn't mean to knock Chobani. They look like a decent company. I am just concerned with the development of the plant itself. What kind of community are they developing. Where will it be? What are the zoning laws? What greater implications will it have on the politics of the region? How will people get there? What are the environmental impacts? Do they need to continue to grow to survive? What will be the impact on local dairies in the area? What are they taking from the community they have chosen to be a part of and what are they giving back? What are the unintended consequences of a seemingly good thing?
My mind can change, but it won't when reasons are given in anger. And certainly not when the information is obviously biased. Your local paper isn't a good enough news source for me. You seem to be looking for reasons to blame the victim instead of understanding the victim. They are not a single entity. It is your neighbor. You are part of the community, you are a part of the system. However you choose to use it, or avoid it. I'm sorry if you feel like you are playing by the rules while others can get away with cheating. It isn't my job to change your mind. I cannot tell you if you are right or wrong. But if you want information, seek it out and don't believe everything you hear. It isn't just about jobs. It isn't just about lack of health care. It isn't just about educational opportunities. It isn't just about the housing market. It isn't just about politics. It isn't just about the media. It isn't just about funding a never ending war. It isn't just about the environment. It isn't just about big businesses buying our politicians. It isn't just about greed. This is about people waking up and realizing that we can no longer pretend that there isn't a problem. Our government is by, for, and of the people, right. It is time to reclaim what is rightfully ours.
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Do you honestly believe that those jobs will go unfilled because of an unattended job fair? Your attitude makes me think you are trying to convince yourself that the solution is simple, not me.
And I worry that Chobani is only a temporary fix to a much bigger problem. I hope they have a sustainable business model otherwise they are only putting a bandaid on a severed artery.
I don't care if you do or do not support the occupation. That is your choice. And pulling out an example of a problem you see is exactly what the occupation is doing. The only difference is that they are taking action while you continue to do nothing productive with your anger. The occupation does not want a hand out, they want to stop feeding the 1%. It's going to take some effort. Do what you will, and allow me the same.
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I wasn't saying the jobs would go unfilled, I was commenting on 'where are all these desperate people who are clamoring for jobs'? The purpose of the job fair is not only to apply for jobs, but to network as well. Where was everyone?
Chobani is a local company to me and they are EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT people. Great business people and great members of the community. They are opening this new plant for distribution purposes (a perishable product in HIGH demand) and chse location carefully, both for distribution and a reliable LOCAL milk supply.
Chobani, parent company Agro Farma (2005), (founded by Hamdi Ulukaya) only opened a few years ago, 2007, and has grown so incredibly yet is still a very down-to-earth and concerned company. They're not assholes just looking to make a buck off anything and everyone.
I'm not necessarily tring to change your mind, not at all, you can beleive as you wish...I'm just stating my reasons for NOT believing that way, and asking you to tell ME why I'M right or wrong....I want tthings to think about and to see other points of view.
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It doesn't matter why people didn't attend a job fair. To me, it clearly means the people saw no value in it and perhaps the organizers didn't advertise very well. I was only pointing out that what you saw as a missed opportunity will not effect the unemployment rates.
And I didn't mean to knock Chobani. They look like a decent company. I am just concerned with the development of the plant itself. What kind of community are they developing. Where will it be? What are the zoning laws? What greater implications will it have on the politics of the region? How will people get there? What are the environmental impacts? Do they need to continue to grow to survive? What will be the impact on local dairies in the area? What are they taking from the community they have chosen to be a part of and what are they giving back? What are the unintended consequences of a seemingly good thing?
My mind can change, but it won't when reasons are given in anger. And certainly not when the information is obviously biased. Your local paper isn't a good enough news source for me. You seem to be looking for reasons to blame the victim instead of understanding the victim. They are not a single entity. It is your neighbor. You are part of the community, you are a part of the system. However you choose to use it, or avoid it. I'm sorry if you feel like you are playing by the rules while others can get away with cheating. It isn't my job to change your mind. I cannot tell you if you are right or wrong. But if you want information, seek it out and don't believe everything you hear. It isn't just about jobs. It isn't just about lack of health care. It isn't just about educational opportunities. It isn't just about the housing market. It isn't just about politics. It isn't just about the media. It isn't just about funding a never ending war. It isn't just about the environment. It isn't just about big businesses buying our politicians. It isn't just about greed. This is about people waking up and realizing that we can no longer pretend that there isn't a problem. Our government is by, for, and of the people, right. It is time to reclaim what is rightfully ours.