Do you really think drug companies hide cures?

I have heard people claim that drug companies hide cures so that people stay sick. I think this is absolutely absurd.

The conspiracy theorists claim that drug companies want people to remain ill and keep having to buy their drugs. That makes no sense, especially with ANY rapidly progressing terminal disease that would cause a quick death (some cancers, Ebola virus,many other diseases that can kill in days to weeks to months). You can't buy drugs if you're dead.

There are so many HUGE flaws in all of the theories. Is it really plausible that thousands and thousands of people involved in pharmaceuticals and the FDA would even be able to conceal cure secrets? NO! FAR too many people involved.

Real people work at the FDA and for pharma companies. They are not heartless robots. They have friends, families-kids, spouses, parents-at least some of their loved ones either have or will have a disease that may take their life. Do you honestly believe they know of a cure for a loved ones disease yet just sit there and watch them die before their eyes? NO! That's absurd. There's also diseases that don't kill but are sheer misery to live with....would you really believe that those that are "in the know" would watch their loved ones suffer for a lifetime with a horrible, crippling disease? No way!

Look at all the high profile people and family members of high profile people who have died of an incurable disease. Certainly a President (or the equivalent) would be privy to a cure if it existed, however still these elite succumb to disease.

Look at how many diseases DO have cures! Most. The FACT that tons of diseases can be cured or vaccinated against should speak volumes.

You'd also have to believe that if one country found a cure, that that information would be suppressed to the rest of the world and that every country and every scientist in every pharma company kept everything secret. The entire world would have to be on the same page of total secrecy, and that is just plain IMPOSSIBLE.

Have any pharmaceutical company executives or their loved ones died of an incurable disease? Sure. But how would that happen if they know of a cure? It wouldn't happen. Do you really believe a pharma exec would lose his own life or watch his wife or kids die so that the company can go on keeping a secret cure?? No way. Wouldn't happen.

Is it normal to beleive in such an absurd theory? Say yes if you think they are hiding cures and no if you don't.

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  • People are upset that drug companies make a profit? Are you same people upset when Steve Jobs makes a profit selling you an overpriced iPhone or iPad? Or you pay extremely high price for movie tickets or tickets to " the game"? You know all these people make high profits too. Yet people line up for days to pay hundreds of dollars for the fifth version of the iPhone and the only complaint is they ran out when your turn came. But a pill that improves or extends your life should be free. Get real people. Don't want the pill? Don't buy the pill.

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  • Your optimistic view of pharmaceutical companies is...naive. Just research any of the major ones. Eli Lilly (probably the worse). Bayer. GlaxoSmithKline. They kill people. And not entirely by accident. There are many, many documented cases of illegal action where their test subjects suffer. Of them bribing people to win court cases. Of them suppressing unfavorable research data. Of straight out lying about the effectiveness of their products. Of spending millions lobbying politicans to give them tax breaks or force insurance companies to use their new and insanely expensive products.

    And that's just the stuff they've gotten caught over...and guess what? They usually get away with it anyway. Lie about the dangers of a drug, pay a few hundred million in fees and lawsuits, and then make a billion when you keep selling the drug with a shiny new warning sticker.

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    • What does any of that have to do with supressing cures?

      I don't doubt that people do horrible things, however hiding a cure? Impossible when all factors are considered.

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  • What about the AIDS cocktail available only for the extremely rich? People are money hungry and the pharmaceutical companies lead the shit pack.

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    • Oh, and BTW, AIDS is incurable not because it's AIDS but because it's a virus. Science has failed to cure ANY virus as of yet, not just the AIDS virus.

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    • You mean the pills that AIDS patients can take to alleviate symptoms and live longer? The same ones that Bono has a TV commercial for in which he states that the drugs cost about 40 cents a day? That's forty CENTS.

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  • Great thread!! I was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis 7 years ago, and on top of that have had a few other health things to deal with. I feel there are both good things and not so good things to say about the medical community etc.
    There is a big thing with the MS society here in Canada with their being against a new procedure that has very promising possibilities in the ms world. I don't know all the ins and outs of it, but the buzz was everywhere in the ms community and folks were not happy and started to be against the society that they thought was once their voice. The MS society had other things that they had commited to researching and bringing forward. But this procedure was not on their agenda. This uproar so to speak has changes the ms society tune a bit and I am not sure where all stands now, but I really wouldn't be surprised if "they" did research and testing on it or at least funded it, if all turned out in their favor. My folks, who usually are staunch supporters of the medical community along with others in my "support" group were let down and disappointed. Dad even said, well it sure looks like they don't want the MS society to be out of business doesn't it?
    Having said all that, I do love our family doctor as he saved my babies life in childbirth. I just think there should be a bit more out of the box thinking and a friendlier more open feeling towards research that also has promising possibilities.

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  • if there were cures for diseases requiring drugs, how would these insurance/medical companies make $? it's the sad truth.

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  • I have been thinking, and some of you may not agree with my opinion there but.. We have already changed the world by inventing different cures to help people with various diseases... Meaning people are NOT dying in their normal cause ( some do don't get me wrong) but by these inventions we are technically, if you look at it this way, slowly killing our future generation. In the last 10 years the population has reached to 7 billion.... 7!! Pretty soon , with the advances in medication and making everyone feel much much better the number of population is going to ncreass... Meaning we will run out of resources and space to live... What exactly will happen then?????

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  • On the other hand with what we know about certain diseases and risk factors for them, it puzzles me why certain cures or preventative medicines are released. For example, cancer has been directly linked with a person having the faulty p53 gene. With what we know about topics such as gene splicing or gene therapy it seems strange they have not yet developed a cure for cancer given what we know about it.

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  • If they are in it for a profit, which is true, i ask this question: why spend the millions or possibily billions to develope an unwanted cure for a disease? It seem like such a money wasting effort in futility for companies that are so concerned with their bottom line.

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  • @ dappled wow a story straight out of brothers grimm. good job

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    • I said the SAME thing in my original post, so thanks.

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      • i actually like your story better, i want to believe your hypothesis. its a thought provoking subject matter and im on your side .........but...dappled, i cannot discount his story cause he doesnt seem to be a liar and he was there

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  • :) dappled

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  • Unbelievable.

    If we can't trust ourselves to run the pharmaceutical industry then who can we trust?

    Who should run it? Can people be trusted with anything in the public sector? Does government really have to do everything?

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    • Uh...

      The government is often complicit with big pharma. George Bush and his lil' Dubya were both ridiculously corrupt in that regard. Then there's the many, many deaths caused by criminal negligence (often not at all by accident) that go relatively unpunished. Criminal charges against an individual in the pharmaceutical industry are very rare and even more rarely at all severe. As for the costs of fines and lawsuits, I don't think I've seen a case yet where their profits from selling a dangerous drug weren't far, far greater.

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      • As were the majority of the benefits of the drug, far far greater.

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  • I worked in pharmaceuticals for six and a half years. I know what I saw and I know what I heard. I have a whole bunch of stories that would shake your worldview (including one which would shake your faith in humanity as a whole). But, knowing pharmacorps as I do, there is nothing in this world (not even the death of a loved one) that would persuade me to name names on a public website.

    Pick the names of a few big companies and type them into Google alongside the words "supressing clinical research". If what you read shocks you, be aware that it is very much the tip of the iceberg. One company in particular (already mentioned above) did something in the 1990's which shocked me to the very core.

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    • Are you able to give us any more hints on the last one you mentioned? Suppression of clinical research isn't exactly rare, so there's a lot to sift through.

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      • It occurred to me that no-one can stop me telling a children's story...

        In the village of Merrickar, people were beginning to get sick with poorly tummies. Sometimes so sick that they had to go to heaven and stay there forever and ever.

        Polly, the village jam-maker, had hit upon a recipe for jam which made people feel better, even if it didn't actually make them better. They still went to heaven but their lives were nicer before they went. The jam was in high demand and Polly made several billion loddars (the currency in Merrickar) in no time.

        Polly paid jam-making elves to come up with more different types of jam, to help people and increase her own wealth. One of the elves disovered a miracle jam. For the people with poorly tummies, it completely cured them in two weeks and they didn't have to go to heaven any more. Also, it was cheap to make. The elf was very excited and ran to Polly to tell of the news.

        At first Polly was excited too. A new jam! More happy people and more money. But then Polly realised that if everyone was cured, no-one would buy her expensive jam on a daily basis any more and she'd be getting poorer.

        So Polly thought about it, bought all the new elf jam and paid for the elves' silence. For seven years, the jam stayed locked in a vault while Polly made money off her old jam. When word finally got out about the miracle jam, Polly pretended she'd never known about it, despite it being in her vault. She "generously" started doling it out and everyone was happy.

        Everyone, that is, apart from the 14,000 dead Merrickans who wouldn't have had to go to heaven if Polly didn't care so much about money.

        The End.

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        • You are an amazing story-teller Dappled. :) Props.

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        • None of the above is true, of course. There is no Polly and there is no jam. And the elves? Why, they may as well have been a private company of research pharmacists for all the truth there is in this.

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          • Ahh, bravo for bringing us this timeless children's tale from the late 18th century.

            I've forgotten one detail of this very old piece of fiction. Did Polly ever receive any punishment for her mass murder?

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            • I believe Polly took on the services of Cut-throat Bob, a lawyer friend of hers, and he managed to shift the blame to the elves. This satisfied everyone who took an interest, including the village elders who ran the town, because it was important to the town that it had a strong jam-making industry which brought in lots of money.

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    • Intrigued, I am so researching this when I go home! I work for an events company that organise the conferences for these barstuds, it's quite shocking what they manage to hide from the public really

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      • It's an open secret in the industry. Everyone knows and generally has the good sense to keep schtum. I wish I could say more about one thing in particular. I've scoured the internet for the story and it's just not out there.

        If there was a way of saying it anonymously, I would do, because I think everyone should know.

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  • no and good post, hey i hear they are using nano diamonds in the cancer fight cause they are the perfect shape, cute

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  • I've been in a situation to where I was given some pills by my doc. Then another pill to fight the side effects. I decided to live with the pain. Some days are really bad but I push through. Of course the drug companies are horrible heathens.

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    • Everything on earth has a side effect. Food has side effects. Do you really expect to put ANYTHING in your body and not get an effect from it? Mud, pond water, an apple, a candy bar....hello?

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  • Yeah, this was a bit long to read...but this is not absurd. Who is filling your head with nonsense?

    Ask yourself why there is a difference in cost between Ibuprofen and Advil. Then tell me they aren't in it for profit. And while you're at it, why are hospitals a for profit entity?

    You also forget that the human body wants to be healthy. Preventative medicine is not the focus of big pharma, never has been. Instead of encouraging you to find the cause of that headache, they would rather you buy a steady supply of pain relief. Guess what, you probably just need a glass of water.

    And the FDA is a big joke. They are not concerned with public health, they are concerned with the business of producing items to sell.

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    • I know drug companies need to make a profit, they're publicly traded companies so they have an obligation to make profits. What does that haave to do with supressing a cure?

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      • You have much to learn young friend. Keep reading, and find a variety of sources. Some conspiracies are inaccurate but most of them are based in truth. Knowledge is power.

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        • Yeah, knowledge is power and so is the ability to spread it without looking like a total douche. Who do you think you are?

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  • Im too tired to read all of this so I will just say that you dont know if its true or not but what if its not true? then who cares right but what if it is true then alot of people die etc now what is at risk if you try figure out the truth? Nothing so I think people should try finmd it out more because if they dont people could be having cures hidden from them but if they do then they know for sure.

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  • @dappled

    I truly enjoyed your childrens bedtime story. It was priceless. My children are adults now, but I will tell them this wonderful fairytale so they can tell their someday children.

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  • OOOO I love a bit of controversy! How is it they can extend a penis size and they still haven't found a cure for cancer? It's bullshit. And let's face it, money makes the world go round!

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    • The only thing that can make a penis bigger is surgery, not drugs.

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