'The smartest, wisest and strongest people have been men. I just like being part of a gender that has such people.'
This is a common misconception.
I'm a proud male, but women have a huge impact on how we are today. Women, years and years ago, were actually considered more valued and 'a gift from the gods' and were treated as such. This caused a lot of men feeling as though they arent the dominant species, and in turn, became very disrespectful towards women, and strive to show dominance. Which is now in our nature. We strive to be the best. And your comment proves point. :)
"Women, years and years ago, were actually considered more valued and 'a gift from the gods' and were treated as such."
Which civilisation are you referring to? How many years ago?
Women being considered a 'gift' is quite apt, because from what I've heard women were 'worshipped' only as a gift to men. Women were traded, just as male slaves were traded. Forced into marriage, given no political voice, little education, no power of authority (with the exception of Queens who inherited their roles). The average woman was always regarded as inferior in most ways to men.
This, I expect, comes down to the simple factor of males being generally inclined to be dominant. The territorial competition which has shaped human history is one typical in nature, with males fighting for power. It seems to be the path evolution has followed, that of power being a deciding factor in survival, and males being necessary to obtain power and gather / hunt food, whilst women being necessary to bare child. In modern society, whilst we still have this pervasive masculine inclination to dominate and a pervasive feminine inclination to nurture, there is less of a need for gender disparity. Essentially, we can afford to be more or less equal intellectually and socially (in Western Europe anyway).
I don't think this male dominance came about because male egos were hurt due to the worship of females...
I am talking about, before the Roman empire era.
Before governments, and cilizations.
It's throughout many historical documents. Like i said, women being disrespected, is a VERY common misconception throughout history. Obviously, you can believe what you want. I'm only trying to spread some information around to better inform. Not trying to force any beliefs among anyone. By all means, believe what you want to believe :)
Of course! I can be stubborn at times but all I really want is to learn.
You're saying before governments and civilisations, so prehistoric times?
This was prior to written history. There were archeological artefacts and artwork to go on, but little else. Of course there were tiny settlements of humans all over the world then, with their own culture and traditions. Which part of the world are you talking about? What evidence are you referring to that paints the picture of female-worship during these times?
Oh absolutely i can be the same way.Vesta, Venus, the 'Great Mother', Isis and Cybele were all Roman goddesses that were based from women only cults. When I did research on this, i found that it was extremely common, and it dates back to prehistoric. Much like the woman in the Amazon. (Which a lot of people are familiar with) Im going off of historical events, and underlying historical politics that isnt really ever in the spot light.
Its just something that i am convinced of.
Why where they valued so much? Was it their intelligence, their wisdom, or their strength? Because women aren't being held back as they were once upon a time, and yet it is still specific men that are the wisest, the most intelligent, and the strongest.
So, how is it a misconception? Civilization was created and built by men, what did these "God's gifts" (women) do in those times that made them viewed in such a way?
My guess would be their appearance, the fact that men had to fight eachother for the chance to mate with females (which would be a good reason as to why they were viewed as such), and/or the fact that they give birth to children.
Why where they viewed to highly? What traits that women gave out seem to be so great that seperated them from the men?
So no, it isn't a misconception, because even if they were viewed as God's gift for their intelligence and wisdom, their intelligence and wisdom has been surpassed by male intelligence and wisdom, and my proof is the world and everything in it.
I have been told to be more careful with my words, so I'll explain something briefly.
I don't think that men are better than women just because they're men, such a thought process is pure stupidity. Although, the ones that have been the most intelligent, most wise, and most strongest have all been male.
A few examples are:
Einstein, Ghandi, and the strong bit is self explained due to it being the main male trait.
Am I saying there aren't women that are very smart, very wise, and/or very strong? No, I'm simply saying the ones that have the 'title' for such things (couldn't think of a better word) are men.
Intelligence and wisdom are subjective. If you're going by some measure that isn't subjective (such as IQ or recorded accomplishments) you MUST be COMPLETELY aware of EVERY man and woman that ever lived. Meaning, you absolutely beyond any doubt must KNOW what every single person in the history of the world's IQ and personal life accomplishments are. If you do not have this information (I'm going to assume you don't, as nobody does) then you are drawing your conclusions from incomplete sources of data, and the entire conjecture is moot.
There is absolutely no scientific proof that your rather passionately sexist theories are correct, as such proof cannot be gathered. You assume the role of someone omniscient to all life that has passed on this planet, and... well, I do not believe that you are.
The only thing you are saying is that you utterly fail to adhere to what is provable truth. Go dig up a comprehensive study that uses the scientific method to prove your points, and present it as it is: a theory, if you wish to have any credibility in these claims.
I knew this would come up. "The recorded data has shown that it is a man that is most intelligent, a man that is most wise, and a man that is most strong" What is your counterpoint? "You haven't recorded everyone, therefor your data can't be conclusive".
It's the same logic as "There's more proof to sugest athiests are right, and that the whole God thing isn't true" and then the other person (you in this scenario) replies "Yeah, well you don't know 'all' the answeres of what you're saying is true, therefor, even though you have far more data to support your claim than I do, a mystical being that magically created everything in seven days is just as a reliable conclusion as what you athiests believe".
So, I'm sexist because the wisest, the most intelligent, and the strongest people were male? Oh yes, ofcourse, because avoiding the actual facts simply because they happen to be males isn't sexist at all.
This is what I can't stand about people like you, you want to slander someone as sexist for stating facts, simply because it isn't in the female gender's favour, so therefor it must be sexist.
Did I say "all men are smarter than women"? No, I said that the smartest, wisest and strongest are male. For example, Einstein and Ghandi.
And just for the whole point of entertaining these points.
Shows that so far on the whole recorded who has the top IQ score, there are four men at the top, and then only fifth is a woman on the list.
Am I saying that women are dumb compared to most men? Am I even saying that there are more smart men than women? No, I'm saying that the ones that have shown to be the best so far, are men.
But hey, if you want to avoid these facts and call 'me' sexist when you're the one avoiding the facts and calling me sexist just because the facts show that it is a male that is the most intelligent, wisest, and strongest simply because they're men, then you go right ahead and call 'me' the sexist one. Something tells me that you're poited finger at the wrong person when you claim I'm the sexist.
Newsflash, saying the genders are equal in something when facts prove otherwise, just because it's not in a certain gender's favour is just as sexist as saying one gender is better than the other.
And here are a few things in which males are famous for, if you can find a female that can compare, then I would like to see (That wasn't sarcasm, I would actually like to know)
You state ZERO facts. You don't even seem to comprehend the definition of what a "fact" is.
You keep parroting the same names "Einstein" and "Ghandi" over and over. Can you say without a doubt that Mother Theresa or Marilyn vos Savant were any more or less "wise" and "intelligent"?
Do you even know what an "opinion" is? The word for saying "Men are smarter and more wiser and that's fact" is pretty simple. It's called a L-I-E. You're posing subjective qualifiers as provable fact, which they simply aren't. In a patriarchal society, that throughout history has provided men with different opportunities than women, you have an EXTREMELY flawed data pool to draw from. There is ZERO proof that any woman out there wasn't "more intelligent" or "more wise" than the men of their era.
You ignore fact by pretending you are the ultimate deity of truth, with ZERO backing, save for the jaded interpretation of records of a male-dominated society. Gee, let's stretch our intellects to the extreme here and take a wild guess at what could POSSIBLY be the sort of data recorded?
Newsflash - there is no fact in existence that proves men are smarter than women. You are woefully incapable of grasping the concept of a "fact" in your counter-points.
Now, if you're trying to argue that the what APPEARS to be, what is RECORDED, and what has been DOCUMENTED (by a couple thousand years of overwhelmingly misogynistic and patriarchal societies) is that men SEEM to be "smarter and wiser" then yes, you could very well be correct. It would still be subjective, but you'd have some backing. To say that you KNOW that this is the case is pure delusion. Nobody can prove these things.
Even the notion that you are "sexist" is an OPINION, yet you seem intensely defensive about this. I stated nothing anywhere that claims women are better in any way. In fact, I didn't state that they were equal, either, I just said that men cannot be proven to be "smarter and wiser". Call me sexist for that if you'd like, that's your opinion.
Ah, ok. Then let's focus on the ones "today"...The link I sent you with the highest IQ, all people from "Today's" world.
What is wrong with you, seriously? I'm not saying that "Men are natrually smarter than women" I'm saying the smartest were individal men, not that men are natrually smarter than women. For God sake, I'm sick of you. Sick of everyone that assumes that if a man says "Oh, Einstein is the smartest" then you assume they're saying that men as a gender are natrually smarter than the female gender.
Language development? It states on the IQ link that Kim Ung-Yong learned abour four languges by his third birthday.
Emotional intelligence? Wouldn't leaders come under that category? Pretty sure people such as Hitler must of played on his people's emotions for the whole Nazi party to start.
I know my second link was a blog, but his information was right on what the people had acomplished, which is why I asked you to tell me the names of people that had acomplished something equal to or greater than what the people on the list acomplished, which you haven't...
Once again, am I saying all females are below average male intelligence? No. I'm saying that the ones that have done better than most, happen to be men. If you dissagree, give me some names to say I'm wrong with a description of what they acomplished.
As for your links- you linked something about IQ. Perhaps you could have stated that it's "fact" that men, on average, score 3-5 points higher on IQ tests, which examine specific aspects of mental acumen, such as spatial awareness. You would be correct.
That is, of course, completely disregarding the concepts of emotional intelligence, or one's aptitude with language development (women take the lead in these categories). And what of the entire realm of psychology, or consideration for the fact that tests are simply that - tests. It's widely accepted that some people (male OR female) simply do not preform well on tests.
Your second link is a personal blog by some guy who also claims to love twitter, and wrote a children's D&D game. (I think that's really cool, actually) But... it's some dude's blog.
I always see you saying this crap about women. Sounds like you're insecure....that's why you keep fighting for men. Lame. if you were truly happy with your gender you wouldn't keep being like this ;)
Ah.
Women fighting for their gender = Great.
Men fighting for their gender = Incecure.
Really? God forbid if men stick up for their gender, right?
Oh, and here's a side note, my comment was mainly focused on males, not females.
Sorry, I'm not going to accept that women can fight for their gender to be seen great while men are forced to say the same about their gender due to the chance of people like you calling them insecure for it.
To respond to your comment above, I guess it was unwise of me to say misconception. from my point of view, i see it as a misconception, but i do see your point as well and it makes sense. Wasn't intending to offend, apologies, ItDuz.
Oh there you are again being all dramatic rofl. Why can't you just be happy the way you are? I'm happy to be a guy, so I don't go around saying "MEN ARE BETTER BAHAHAHHAHHAAHHAH" cause well I'm secure. Yes, you can fight for your gender, but what's there to fight about??? I don't see any women being sexist towards us. Infect, all I see is women complaining about their gender probably thanks to guys like you!
Cool. If you can quote me where I said that "men are better" and not that individual men have the record of being smartest and wisest, then you have a point. I think you'll find that I have never said something like "Men are better than women". So before you try get all sarcastic, how about some reading skills beforehand? Otherwise, your sarcasm just fails like it did there.
Ah, the funny moment when I inform you that I used to think the sun came out of the female gender's ass, and that it was infact the way females portray themselves over men than made me have the opinions I have today.
You don't see any women being sexist? I'm quite antisocial, I rarely go out when asked unless I have to, and even I have noticed it.
You're probably the type of person that thinks feminism is the same today as it was when it first started.
Or how about the part when alot of feminists say "All men are potential rapists, if they have the chance to do it and get away with it, they'll do it". Yeah, because that's not sexist at all.
Going to basically repeat this. Don't wrongly quote me and try pass it off as something I've said, especially when it's something I myself don't agree with.
How about you stay on topic and not attack my "reading skills"because that's just plain STUPID. I wasn't even born here. Now back on topic, GET OUT MORE. Sexism is almost gone and you need to live in the NOW. I don't see any feminist and so what they think most men are rapists? SO WHAT? I bet it's harder to rape a man. If it wasnt for physical we'd have more female rapist. So get over yourself and stop bitching. It's like you're not happy with yourself.
I was staying on topic, I was implying you read what I said wrong and that by doing so you were fighting against an opinion that I myself don't agree with or even said. You might like going against opinions that were never made by the person engaging in conversation, but I don't like people trying to make a conversation out of things they think I've said when I haven't and they've read it wrong. So my "attack" on your reading skills was keeping on point. Oh, I'm sorry, are you allowed to be sarcastic and mock me, and I'm not allowed to do things similair? Oh I'm so sorry I didn't just let you mock me, can you ever forgive me? -Sigh-
What? Sexism is almost gone? Are you serious? It has definetly been lessened by a lot, but in no way is it almost gone.
I never said they think most men are rapists, once again I add, read over what I say before replying. I know for a fact there are far more male rapists than female rapists, where did I ever say there wasn't? I said that they think that "all men" are potential rapists, "all men", and if given the chance to rape someone, they would.
You do also realize that other men are the victims of male rape aswell, right?
Stop "bitching"? You mean like you're "Bitching" to me? I guess it's only acceptable to "bitch" when it's for something "you" agree with, right?
Now, read over what I said. Read over it? Now read over it again. This isn't me trying to make fun of you, I litrally don't want to repeat what I said to you because you have misunderstood what it is I have said.
What is with you? So because I have an opinion that you don't agree with, natrually I must be unhappy with myself? That's the same logic as a priest would make to an athiest, you being the priest and I being the athiest in this scenario. The Priest (you) would say, I know why you don't believe in God. The athiest (me in this scenario) would reply "how so?" and the priest would reply, you don't accept the belief of God because you aren't happy with yourself, and you know if you believe in God that you would come to realize you have commited so much sin".
That's the type of logic you're running by here.
And ofcourse you got a thumbs up, and to whoever it was that thumbsed you up, they're a moron. Your comment was filled with points that I didn't make, that you didn't even understand. So when you thumbs up someone that has replied not fully understanding what it is that was typed, you just got to ask yourself, what kind of moron are you?
No wait, I see - it's funny, because when you typed "isn't true and is based on nothing factual whatsoever" it seems you made the mistake of hitting the wrong keys and typed "it's completely true"
Don't worry. I caught the typo, and people now understand.
Einstein and Ghandi. Just two very known ones that I can think of at the top of my head before going to bed.
As for strongest? Well, obviously men have that one covered already. Giving a name would be poitless, I wouldn't have to even give the name of the strongest man, perhaps the second, third, all the way down to tenth (maybe) and not find a woman as strong.
Why do you assume that I don't already know that? Simply because I say that it is a man that is smartest, a man that is wisest, and a man that is strongest, doesn't mean that I don't think there are women in those three parts of the mind and body that aren't better than millions of other men?
Why is it that when a male says that it is a male that is smartest, wisest, and strongest that it automaticly translates to "I hate all women, they're useless, not even worthy of comparing to any average man"?
I know full well that there are many great women that millions of men won't be able to surpass, I know for a fact I won't either.
I don't know about the emotionally strong bit, you may be right, but unless I see proof of that instead of just people saying it's true, then I can't believe it. Surely you understand.
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I want to stay as a man. It's not suprising why alot of men would want to be female, though. Females have a lot of benefits men don't have.
I'd stay as a man, I think they're much more better to look at. There is alot of history to them.
The smartest, wisest and strongest people have been men. I just like being part of a gender that has such people.
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'The smartest, wisest and strongest people have been men. I just like being part of a gender that has such people.'
This is a common misconception.
I'm a proud male, but women have a huge impact on how we are today. Women, years and years ago, were actually considered more valued and 'a gift from the gods' and were treated as such. This caused a lot of men feeling as though they arent the dominant species, and in turn, became very disrespectful towards women, and strive to show dominance. Which is now in our nature. We strive to be the best. And your comment proves point. :)
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"Women, years and years ago, were actually considered more valued and 'a gift from the gods' and were treated as such."
Which civilisation are you referring to? How many years ago?
Women being considered a 'gift' is quite apt, because from what I've heard women were 'worshipped' only as a gift to men. Women were traded, just as male slaves were traded. Forced into marriage, given no political voice, little education, no power of authority (with the exception of Queens who inherited their roles). The average woman was always regarded as inferior in most ways to men.
This, I expect, comes down to the simple factor of males being generally inclined to be dominant. The territorial competition which has shaped human history is one typical in nature, with males fighting for power. It seems to be the path evolution has followed, that of power being a deciding factor in survival, and males being necessary to obtain power and gather / hunt food, whilst women being necessary to bare child. In modern society, whilst we still have this pervasive masculine inclination to dominate and a pervasive feminine inclination to nurture, there is less of a need for gender disparity. Essentially, we can afford to be more or less equal intellectually and socially (in Western Europe anyway).
I don't think this male dominance came about because male egos were hurt due to the worship of females...
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I am talking about, before the Roman empire era.
Before governments, and cilizations.
It's throughout many historical documents. Like i said, women being disrespected, is a VERY common misconception throughout history. Obviously, you can believe what you want. I'm only trying to spread some information around to better inform. Not trying to force any beliefs among anyone. By all means, believe what you want to believe :)
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Of course! I can be stubborn at times but all I really want is to learn.
You're saying before governments and civilisations, so prehistoric times?
This was prior to written history. There were archeological artefacts and artwork to go on, but little else. Of course there were tiny settlements of humans all over the world then, with their own culture and traditions. Which part of the world are you talking about? What evidence are you referring to that paints the picture of female-worship during these times?
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Oh absolutely i can be the same way.Vesta, Venus, the 'Great Mother', Isis and Cybele were all Roman goddesses that were based from women only cults. When I did research on this, i found that it was extremely common, and it dates back to prehistoric. Much like the woman in the Amazon. (Which a lot of people are familiar with) Im going off of historical events, and underlying historical politics that isnt really ever in the spot light.
Its just something that i am convinced of.
Why where they valued so much? Was it their intelligence, their wisdom, or their strength? Because women aren't being held back as they were once upon a time, and yet it is still specific men that are the wisest, the most intelligent, and the strongest.
So, how is it a misconception? Civilization was created and built by men, what did these "God's gifts" (women) do in those times that made them viewed in such a way?
My guess would be their appearance, the fact that men had to fight eachother for the chance to mate with females (which would be a good reason as to why they were viewed as such), and/or the fact that they give birth to children.
Why where they viewed to highly? What traits that women gave out seem to be so great that seperated them from the men?
So no, it isn't a misconception, because even if they were viewed as God's gift for their intelligence and wisdom, their intelligence and wisdom has been surpassed by male intelligence and wisdom, and my proof is the world and everything in it.
I have been told to be more careful with my words, so I'll explain something briefly.
I don't think that men are better than women just because they're men, such a thought process is pure stupidity. Although, the ones that have been the most intelligent, most wise, and most strongest have all been male.
A few examples are:
Einstein, Ghandi, and the strong bit is self explained due to it being the main male trait.
Am I saying there aren't women that are very smart, very wise, and/or very strong? No, I'm simply saying the ones that have the 'title' for such things (couldn't think of a better word) are men.
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Intelligence and wisdom are subjective. If you're going by some measure that isn't subjective (such as IQ or recorded accomplishments) you MUST be COMPLETELY aware of EVERY man and woman that ever lived. Meaning, you absolutely beyond any doubt must KNOW what every single person in the history of the world's IQ and personal life accomplishments are. If you do not have this information (I'm going to assume you don't, as nobody does) then you are drawing your conclusions from incomplete sources of data, and the entire conjecture is moot.
There is absolutely no scientific proof that your rather passionately sexist theories are correct, as such proof cannot be gathered. You assume the role of someone omniscient to all life that has passed on this planet, and... well, I do not believe that you are.
The only thing you are saying is that you utterly fail to adhere to what is provable truth. Go dig up a comprehensive study that uses the scientific method to prove your points, and present it as it is: a theory, if you wish to have any credibility in these claims.
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I knew this would come up. "The recorded data has shown that it is a man that is most intelligent, a man that is most wise, and a man that is most strong" What is your counterpoint? "You haven't recorded everyone, therefor your data can't be conclusive".
It's the same logic as "There's more proof to sugest athiests are right, and that the whole God thing isn't true" and then the other person (you in this scenario) replies "Yeah, well you don't know 'all' the answeres of what you're saying is true, therefor, even though you have far more data to support your claim than I do, a mystical being that magically created everything in seven days is just as a reliable conclusion as what you athiests believe".
So, I'm sexist because the wisest, the most intelligent, and the strongest people were male? Oh yes, ofcourse, because avoiding the actual facts simply because they happen to be males isn't sexist at all.
This is what I can't stand about people like you, you want to slander someone as sexist for stating facts, simply because it isn't in the female gender's favour, so therefor it must be sexist.
Did I say "all men are smarter than women"? No, I said that the smartest, wisest and strongest are male. For example, Einstein and Ghandi.
And just for the whole point of entertaining these points.
http://palscience.com/science/the-worlds-top-8-smartest-people/
Shows that so far on the whole recorded who has the top IQ score, there are four men at the top, and then only fifth is a woman on the list.
Am I saying that women are dumb compared to most men? Am I even saying that there are more smart men than women? No, I'm saying that the ones that have shown to be the best so far, are men.
But hey, if you want to avoid these facts and call 'me' sexist when you're the one avoiding the facts and calling me sexist just because the facts show that it is a male that is the most intelligent, wisest, and strongest simply because they're men, then you go right ahead and call 'me' the sexist one. Something tells me that you're poited finger at the wrong person when you claim I'm the sexist.
Newsflash, saying the genders are equal in something when facts prove otherwise, just because it's not in a certain gender's favour is just as sexist as saying one gender is better than the other.
And here are a few things in which males are famous for, if you can find a female that can compare, then I would like to see (That wasn't sarcasm, I would actually like to know)
http://www.bengarvey.com/2005/07/16/smartest-person-ever/
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You state ZERO facts. You don't even seem to comprehend the definition of what a "fact" is.
You keep parroting the same names "Einstein" and "Ghandi" over and over. Can you say without a doubt that Mother Theresa or Marilyn vos Savant were any more or less "wise" and "intelligent"?
Do you even know what an "opinion" is? The word for saying "Men are smarter and more wiser and that's fact" is pretty simple. It's called a L-I-E. You're posing subjective qualifiers as provable fact, which they simply aren't. In a patriarchal society, that throughout history has provided men with different opportunities than women, you have an EXTREMELY flawed data pool to draw from. There is ZERO proof that any woman out there wasn't "more intelligent" or "more wise" than the men of their era.
You ignore fact by pretending you are the ultimate deity of truth, with ZERO backing, save for the jaded interpretation of records of a male-dominated society. Gee, let's stretch our intellects to the extreme here and take a wild guess at what could POSSIBLY be the sort of data recorded?
Newsflash - there is no fact in existence that proves men are smarter than women. You are woefully incapable of grasping the concept of a "fact" in your counter-points.
Now, if you're trying to argue that the what APPEARS to be, what is RECORDED, and what has been DOCUMENTED (by a couple thousand years of overwhelmingly misogynistic and patriarchal societies) is that men SEEM to be "smarter and wiser" then yes, you could very well be correct. It would still be subjective, but you'd have some backing. To say that you KNOW that this is the case is pure delusion. Nobody can prove these things.
Even the notion that you are "sexist" is an OPINION, yet you seem intensely defensive about this. I stated nothing anywhere that claims women are better in any way. In fact, I didn't state that they were equal, either, I just said that men cannot be proven to be "smarter and wiser". Call me sexist for that if you'd like, that's your opinion.
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Ah, ok. Then let's focus on the ones "today"...The link I sent you with the highest IQ, all people from "Today's" world.
What is wrong with you, seriously? I'm not saying that "Men are natrually smarter than women" I'm saying the smartest were individal men, not that men are natrually smarter than women. For God sake, I'm sick of you. Sick of everyone that assumes that if a man says "Oh, Einstein is the smartest" then you assume they're saying that men as a gender are natrually smarter than the female gender.
Language development? It states on the IQ link that Kim Ung-Yong learned abour four languges by his third birthday.
Emotional intelligence? Wouldn't leaders come under that category? Pretty sure people such as Hitler must of played on his people's emotions for the whole Nazi party to start.
I know my second link was a blog, but his information was right on what the people had acomplished, which is why I asked you to tell me the names of people that had acomplished something equal to or greater than what the people on the list acomplished, which you haven't...
Once again, am I saying all females are below average male intelligence? No. I'm saying that the ones that have done better than most, happen to be men. If you dissagree, give me some names to say I'm wrong with a description of what they acomplished.
As for your links- you linked something about IQ. Perhaps you could have stated that it's "fact" that men, on average, score 3-5 points higher on IQ tests, which examine specific aspects of mental acumen, such as spatial awareness. You would be correct.
That is, of course, completely disregarding the concepts of emotional intelligence, or one's aptitude with language development (women take the lead in these categories). And what of the entire realm of psychology, or consideration for the fact that tests are simply that - tests. It's widely accepted that some people (male OR female) simply do not preform well on tests.
Your second link is a personal blog by some guy who also claims to love twitter, and wrote a children's D&D game. (I think that's really cool, actually) But... it's some dude's blog.
Powerful.
I always see you saying this crap about women. Sounds like you're insecure....that's why you keep fighting for men. Lame. if you were truly happy with your gender you wouldn't keep being like this ;)
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Ah.
Women fighting for their gender = Great.
Men fighting for their gender = Incecure.
Really? God forbid if men stick up for their gender, right?
Oh, and here's a side note, my comment was mainly focused on males, not females.
Sorry, I'm not going to accept that women can fight for their gender to be seen great while men are forced to say the same about their gender due to the chance of people like you calling them insecure for it.
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To respond to your comment above, I guess it was unwise of me to say misconception. from my point of view, i see it as a misconception, but i do see your point as well and it makes sense. Wasn't intending to offend, apologies, ItDuz.
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No worries. I apologize if anything I have said has offended you.
Oh there you are again being all dramatic rofl. Why can't you just be happy the way you are? I'm happy to be a guy, so I don't go around saying "MEN ARE BETTER BAHAHAHHAHHAAHHAH" cause well I'm secure. Yes, you can fight for your gender, but what's there to fight about??? I don't see any women being sexist towards us. Infect, all I see is women complaining about their gender probably thanks to guys like you!
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Cool. If you can quote me where I said that "men are better" and not that individual men have the record of being smartest and wisest, then you have a point. I think you'll find that I have never said something like "Men are better than women". So before you try get all sarcastic, how about some reading skills beforehand? Otherwise, your sarcasm just fails like it did there.
Ah, the funny moment when I inform you that I used to think the sun came out of the female gender's ass, and that it was infact the way females portray themselves over men than made me have the opinions I have today.
You don't see any women being sexist? I'm quite antisocial, I rarely go out when asked unless I have to, and even I have noticed it.
You're probably the type of person that thinks feminism is the same today as it was when it first started.
Or how about the part when alot of feminists say "All men are potential rapists, if they have the chance to do it and get away with it, they'll do it". Yeah, because that's not sexist at all.
Going to basically repeat this. Don't wrongly quote me and try pass it off as something I've said, especially when it's something I myself don't agree with.
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How about you stay on topic and not attack my "reading skills"because that's just plain STUPID. I wasn't even born here. Now back on topic, GET OUT MORE. Sexism is almost gone and you need to live in the NOW. I don't see any feminist and so what they think most men are rapists? SO WHAT? I bet it's harder to rape a man. If it wasnt for physical we'd have more female rapist. So get over yourself and stop bitching. It's like you're not happy with yourself.
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I was staying on topic, I was implying you read what I said wrong and that by doing so you were fighting against an opinion that I myself don't agree with or even said. You might like going against opinions that were never made by the person engaging in conversation, but I don't like people trying to make a conversation out of things they think I've said when I haven't and they've read it wrong. So my "attack" on your reading skills was keeping on point. Oh, I'm sorry, are you allowed to be sarcastic and mock me, and I'm not allowed to do things similair? Oh I'm so sorry I didn't just let you mock me, can you ever forgive me? -Sigh-
What? Sexism is almost gone? Are you serious? It has definetly been lessened by a lot, but in no way is it almost gone.
I never said they think most men are rapists, once again I add, read over what I say before replying. I know for a fact there are far more male rapists than female rapists, where did I ever say there wasn't? I said that they think that "all men" are potential rapists, "all men", and if given the chance to rape someone, they would.
You do also realize that other men are the victims of male rape aswell, right?
Stop "bitching"? You mean like you're "Bitching" to me? I guess it's only acceptable to "bitch" when it's for something "you" agree with, right?
Now, read over what I said. Read over it? Now read over it again. This isn't me trying to make fun of you, I litrally don't want to repeat what I said to you because you have misunderstood what it is I have said.
What is with you? So because I have an opinion that you don't agree with, natrually I must be unhappy with myself? That's the same logic as a priest would make to an athiest, you being the priest and I being the athiest in this scenario. The Priest (you) would say, I know why you don't believe in God. The athiest (me in this scenario) would reply "how so?" and the priest would reply, you don't accept the belief of God because you aren't happy with yourself, and you know if you believe in God that you would come to realize you have commited so much sin".
That's the type of logic you're running by here.
And ofcourse you got a thumbs up, and to whoever it was that thumbsed you up, they're a moron. Your comment was filled with points that I didn't make, that you didn't even understand. So when you thumbs up someone that has replied not fully understanding what it is that was typed, you just got to ask yourself, what kind of moron are you?
Disgusting.
No wait, I see - it's funny, because when you typed "isn't true and is based on nothing factual whatsoever" it seems you made the mistake of hitting the wrong keys and typed "it's completely true"
Don't worry. I caught the typo, and people now understand.
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-Pats head- Read my other reply. Look at the links, answer the questions I ask. Should be hard to do given that you're so certain I am wrong.
Can you give us some examples because I would say it would be about even.
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Einstein and Ghandi. Just two very known ones that I can think of at the top of my head before going to bed.
As for strongest? Well, obviously men have that one covered already. Giving a name would be poitless, I wouldn't have to even give the name of the strongest man, perhaps the second, third, all the way down to tenth (maybe) and not find a woman as strong.
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There have been plenty of strong women in history; which I'm saying that have stood up for themselves and that have done a lot. I can give you a list.
And of course there are more physically strong men since women need more fat in their bodies to have children and to support the babies in the womb.
But we do have to go through periods and pregnancies which are painful.
Women are more emotionally strong and men are more physically strong.
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Why do you assume that I don't already know that? Simply because I say that it is a man that is smartest, a man that is wisest, and a man that is strongest, doesn't mean that I don't think there are women in those three parts of the mind and body that aren't better than millions of other men?
Why is it that when a male says that it is a male that is smartest, wisest, and strongest that it automaticly translates to "I hate all women, they're useless, not even worthy of comparing to any average man"?
I know full well that there are many great women that millions of men won't be able to surpass, I know for a fact I won't either.
I don't know about the emotionally strong bit, you may be right, but unless I see proof of that instead of just people saying it's true, then I can't believe it. Surely you understand.
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I wasn't trying to say that you hated all women.
But I still believe that it's about even on the smartest, wisest and strongest part.