Isn't that what we just did? My belief is that women and men are equal, that we all have different versions of the truth, and my conclusion is that we're different people with different opinions, and maybe we can never see eye to eye. Your belief is that men are naturally superior to women, that your truth is the truth, and that as of now, we have no conclusion.
No, we more so discussed the methods I express what I believe to be facts, not why we see them as truths.
I'll start the debate off. What makes the female gender equal to the male gender?
Before we begin, I feel like we've already had many, many debates that will likely resolve in the same way as this one, usually with you as an anon. Is it really necessary to go over the same points again (especially ones that we just outlined in our previous discussion) on a thread that has almost nothing to do with gender equality?
If you still think this discussion to be necessary, then here's my general rule of thumb; treat everyone like you, as a human being, want to be treated. Because that's what we are- humans. And that's what everyone says that they're striving for, masculinists and feminists alike. Neither group is particularly effective in working for that goal, but that is the ultimatum. Every human treated well, regardless of intelligence, race, gender, or creed. On the off chance that you are right, and men are somehow superior to women, that still doesn't change the fact that every human on this earth has the right to be treated as a human. That means basic respect for a human being. Even if the person that you're talking to is a total and complete jackass, you are still obligated to treat them in a civil manner and see them as an equal.
If you don't to, then you don't need to. Just remember that I was willing to hear your side of the debate in a calm manner, and that I was not just saying I was right, but also listening to your side.
I do treat people the way I want to be treated. I treat people with respect (as an opposing debater). I exress my argument, then give examples and reasons to why I believe it to be right. I won't thumb someone down without explaining why (so they have the chance to prove why I thumbed them down wrong), and I look for reliable sources of information to link if asked. If anything, the majority of people aren't going by that rule of thumb.
Fair point. But that's on IIN, where everyone is set on debate mode (whether they're particularly good at it or not). What about in real life, when you evidently see women as being inferior to men like yourself. Regardless of whether you make your beliefs known to them, is that treating them as you'd like to be treated? Do you want me to look down on you because you were born a man, and I was born a woman?
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Isn't that what we just did? My belief is that women and men are equal, that we all have different versions of the truth, and my conclusion is that we're different people with different opinions, and maybe we can never see eye to eye. Your belief is that men are naturally superior to women, that your truth is the truth, and that as of now, we have no conclusion.
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No, we more so discussed the methods I express what I believe to be facts, not why we see them as truths.
I'll start the debate off. What makes the female gender equal to the male gender?
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Before we begin, I feel like we've already had many, many debates that will likely resolve in the same way as this one, usually with you as an anon. Is it really necessary to go over the same points again (especially ones that we just outlined in our previous discussion) on a thread that has almost nothing to do with gender equality?
If you still think this discussion to be necessary, then here's my general rule of thumb; treat everyone like you, as a human being, want to be treated. Because that's what we are- humans. And that's what everyone says that they're striving for, masculinists and feminists alike. Neither group is particularly effective in working for that goal, but that is the ultimatum. Every human treated well, regardless of intelligence, race, gender, or creed. On the off chance that you are right, and men are somehow superior to women, that still doesn't change the fact that every human on this earth has the right to be treated as a human. That means basic respect for a human being. Even if the person that you're talking to is a total and complete jackass, you are still obligated to treat them in a civil manner and see them as an equal.
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If you don't to, then you don't need to. Just remember that I was willing to hear your side of the debate in a calm manner, and that I was not just saying I was right, but also listening to your side.
I do treat people the way I want to be treated. I treat people with respect (as an opposing debater). I exress my argument, then give examples and reasons to why I believe it to be right. I won't thumb someone down without explaining why (so they have the chance to prove why I thumbed them down wrong), and I look for reliable sources of information to link if asked. If anything, the majority of people aren't going by that rule of thumb.
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Fair point. But that's on IIN, where everyone is set on debate mode (whether they're particularly good at it or not). What about in real life, when you evidently see women as being inferior to men like yourself. Regardless of whether you make your beliefs known to them, is that treating them as you'd like to be treated? Do you want me to look down on you because you were born a man, and I was born a woman?