Cheeseman's syndrome. Basically, you sit in a corner with enough cheese to sink a battleship and then you...
...sorry, making light of it. Depression. Tested multiple times for autism as well, but always beat that test. Actually, I've never taken an AQ test as an adult. I might go and see if I can find one online. If it comes back as autistic, I'll come back here and mention that too.
I took the test and I'm a little disturbed by the results.
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0 - 10 = low
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It would appear that I'm autistic just because I'm good at spotting patterns and remembering numbers. Stupid fucking test. I can't be autistic. I understand people well enough. This has really got to me.
Yeah, some of it was. I kind of overreacted because it was saying that if you're good at certain things, you must therefore be diagnosed with a problem.
Stupidity on my part because I do exceptionally well on IQ tests and yet don't find that offensive. In actuality, I guess I was just shocked to find out how un-average my mind is and for it to be flagged up as a negative thing. :/
P.S. I posted your story yesterday. It didn't get past moderation, despite people like charli.m posting supportive messages. Least you know it's nothing personal, I suppose, if it didn't get through for me either. Like I said, though, I can be very determined. I'll try again one day. And I'll keep trying. :)
I really wonder what's so "irritating" to Management in that post that they won't admit it. Really, i mean, like, i would like an explanation, just once :)
Well, I think it might have been a problem if they'd let it through for me because then you could validly ask "Why is it okay for dappled to post it but not me?"
I noticed all my other stories that day got approved or denied before your story, then there was a delay (like it was being talked about) and then finally it was denied.
Maybe it's just a point of principle now. If I leave it a few months and try again (when IIN users will have forgotten this), maybe it'll get through.
I hope so. This has really pissed me off. I don't even know why I did it. According to their test, anyone who prefers a museum over a party is somehow autistic. Well pardon fucking me for being curious about the world I live in.
I'm sure Professor Words, or whoever else came up with this piece of shit, is a real bon vivant, the life and soul of any party he attends, telling hilarious stories where he convinces people they have some kind of mental disability. I bet he'd even nod sagely and pretend to understand my "problem" little realising that he is the problem.
If he comes to any party of mine, I'll show him what a problem looks like. Not that this would ever happen. Because I don't hold parties. I'm autistic.
Okay, I'd better get back to drooling in the corner and avoiding eye-contact with people.
It honestly wasn't meant to be. It was meant to be sarcasm from someone who is now autistic. I kind of wanted to be on your side and point out how others view it. You're not the only person who questioned it, though. :)
Oh...I see.
Perhaps be a little more considerate of others next time, though.
One word of warning: an AQ test is NOT a substitute for professional diagnosis - as reads the disclaimer.
No, I don't think you are, either. Nor do I think a friend of mine is, yet he's been diagnosed anyway. Not by an online test but by a real-life, honest-to-God, professional mental health worker who... administered the test. Well, that's alright then.
Hahahaha I've taken that test many times, and have gotten the same results. I thought the museum vs. party thing was interesting. It portrays a view that, if you prefer to go to museums, you're a messed up person, lol. Which doesn't make sense at all. I agree, I think these tests are laden with loaded questions and bias!
Blah, I was so freaked out. I mean, I've got no problem with autistic people and it wouldn't bother me especially if I was autistic (and it would explain some things). It's just that I didn't think I was and here's this test scoring me right up towards the high end of the spectrum.
Glad to hear I'm not the only one who has been caught out by this. It's not often I have a major freak-out. Thanks, by the way.
Oh, and the questions were totally stupid. Like the museums versus party thing. I partied all the time and going to a museum was a rare thing, a treat, so obviously I'm going to pick museum. But it was "museum with a huge backdrop of socialising every other night" as opposed to "museum because I don't deal with with social situations". Stupid test. Grr!
Initially I was freaked out as well. And the test did prove to me that I may have SOME traits of Aspergers. However, I did not think I was a full blown Aspie, and that's where my questioning of the test began (after seeing the results).
I think most, maybe if not all questions have some sort of weight to each, and some sort of bias. It makes you choose this or that, and if you're 'this' you display a trait of Autism or Aspergers, what have you. There are so many conditions that go with having Autism/Aspergers that it isn't simply defined as a yes/no question.
And to be honest, I am beginning to believe what my friend had said about it: "I don't believe in Aspergers. I think it's made up. Each human being has their own quirks.'' While I believe him almost 100%, the IS a difference between having quirks to having Autism and such.
But if you feel that you're normal, and the test says otherwise, don't believe it man. I figure that if I really feel like I have something like that, a doctor/specialist would be a better person at diagnosing it, than some stupid test!
You know those online tests are hardly accurate right? Don't put this label on yourself if you feel it's restricting. There's no need to start doubting your social skills.
For example, A couple of years ago I was diagnosed with AS by a psychologist. I didn't mind it that much first, I was actually glad since I scored exceptionally well on my IQ test. but my school counselor kept treating me like some full-blown autistic who can't even tie his own shoelaces.
It was harsh, and for a time, I did start doubting my social skills. But truth is, they weren't that bad, and there are very little things in life you can't work on. I worked on it by going out and talking to a lot of people. At parties, at school, on train rides,...
I managed to make friends, keep friends and score dates. So even if you do have AS, don't think that it completely ruins your chances of having a normal life. It's likely you have some points you should work on, but everybody has those.
Plus, it's an online test, they're usually overly simplified.
1. Do you sometimes need some time on your own?
a. No, always partying. ALWAYS. I love standing in a crowded place with music so loud I can't hear what stupid thing that mediocre-looking drunk chick is yelling in my ear.
b. Five minutes to Wapner.
If you're really curious, go get psychoanalyzed by an actual psychologist. Though I have to warn you: there's a reason why I don't tell people I have AS irl. Asperger's has a really bad reputation.
Ahh, I know. There's a back-story to this involving friends out in real-life and, although I overreacted, there are reasons why I did. For once, it actually is too difficult to explain because it's a ten year story, but it bothered me quite a lot.
My non-verbal communication is bad. I can read what signals people are sending me but I just don't seem able to send the right signals back. I get misread a lot. People think I'm thinking something but I'm not. People often think I'm judging them when I'm not.
But then, more and more I notice social awkwardness in others and I'm the one who is keeping everyone buzzing and happy and together. I'm the first to notice if the mood is turning, and I'm the first person to do something about it and get everyone back on track. I almost seem to see social things before others do, and it seems at odds with Asperger's.
I do often prefer my own company, though, because it's just easier, and I have a huge awareness of pattern and order and number and I guess I don't like it if things move outside the pattern they're supposed to be in. I notice it quickly.
Hmm...I can't say for sure, but from what you've said about your ability to hold social situations together in the way that you described, it almost feels as though you're social glue!
Then again, not all Aspies are terrible at mixing with others, though - naturally there is that element of social confusion. For example, I didn't go to school as a child (my teacher mum handled my education) and I've always ended up dropping out from dance classes, group activities, and friendships - I've only had one proper friend, and she ended up being terrible; I'm not much cop at interpreting other people's intentions. That's why my husband, John, is awesome. He's so understanding and manages to make me feel sexy...although that could be something to do with his being sexy...
I also have little empathy for others (to be honest, I now have to fake any sort of care).
A general list of 'Asperger and Autism points' to look out for are things like these:
¤ Anger issues
¤ Limited or no empathy for those around you
¤ Hyper- or hyposensitivity (with hypersensitivity, you have an extreme ability to react strongly to certain textures, sounds, pressures, visuals or tastes - with hypo-, you have a lessened sensitivity than what is considered to be average for most neurotypicals - NTs -).
¤ Tendency to take things literally
¤ Obsessions with certain topics
¤ Impeccable memory for certain subjects (for instance I remember small details and almost all words I read)
¤ Interests which may seem trivial or strange to outsiders (I like to read and study dictionaries, and collect random items which I stick into a scrapbook I made).
¤ Tendency to 'slip up' or make social blunders
¤ Motor-skill deficiency (such as; I didn't learn to ride a bike until I was 7, have been pretty rubbish at slicing food and using cutlery, tying shoelaces and I still can't swim)
¤ Clumsiness or spacial awareness issues
¤ Likeness for patterns
¤ Excessive fantasy life (I have a melee of imaginary friends; I call the entire scenario my Double Life)
¤ Social awkwardness
¤ Inability or little skill for making and maintaining friendships
¤ The few relationships may be intense and you might be dependent
That's all I can think of off-hand - I'll include a link to Aspires; a website which gives you a detailed, helpful set of questions adapted from the 1995 Garnett & Attwood Scale for Asperger's Syndrome, edited especially for adults.
It's really useful - my mum and I checked it out, and it helped me to print out the questions and tick and make notes beside the questions.
Aspires: <a href="http://www.aspires-relationships.com/articles_adult_version_austrailian_scale_for_as.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.aspires-relationships.com/articles_a...</a>
I really hope that helps and gives you some insight, do get back to me and let me know how you're getting on!
Good luck!
xx
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With Autism, there is a speech delay in childhood (stammers, monogamous tone, heightened or softened pitch, volume or tone, affected foreign accent, etc), whereas with Aperger's Syndrome speech is so-called normal.
Yeah, they are. I really let it get to me and I'm surprised I did that. I guess if I start swearing in a post, I'm either rattled or doing it for comic effect. This time was "rattled". I feel a bit weak now, but I guess we all have our moments. :)
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Cheeseman's syndrome. Basically, you sit in a corner with enough cheese to sink a battleship and then you...
...sorry, making light of it. Depression. Tested multiple times for autism as well, but always beat that test. Actually, I've never taken an AQ test as an adult. I might go and see if I can find one online. If it comes back as autistic, I'll come back here and mention that too.
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I took the test and I'm a little disturbed by the results.
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23 - 31 = above average
32 - 50 is very high (most people with Asperger Syndrome or high-functioning autism score about 35)
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It would appear that I'm autistic just because I'm good at spotting patterns and remembering numbers. Stupid fucking test. I can't be autistic. I understand people well enough. This has really got to me.
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that test is about memory and patterns?
you should be proud, not disturbed :P
Those same things are tested in many IQ-tests :P
In my eyes, scoring high makes you smart, not autistic -_-
As for mental disorder? I'm sure i have issues if you asked some shrink(or whats the slang word for psychiatrist?), but i'm feeling fine.
I ain't need fixin'.
I'm bent and twisted, not broken. ^_^
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Yeah, some of it was. I kind of overreacted because it was saying that if you're good at certain things, you must therefore be diagnosed with a problem.
Stupidity on my part because I do exceptionally well on IQ tests and yet don't find that offensive. In actuality, I guess I was just shocked to find out how un-average my mind is and for it to be flagged up as a negative thing. :/
P.S. I posted your story yesterday. It didn't get past moderation, despite people like charli.m posting supportive messages. Least you know it's nothing personal, I suppose, if it didn't get through for me either. Like I said, though, I can be very determined. I'll try again one day. And I'll keep trying. :)
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ah, thanks for letting me know ^_^
I really wonder what's so "irritating" to Management in that post that they won't admit it. Really, i mean, like, i would like an explanation, just once :)
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Well, I think it might have been a problem if they'd let it through for me because then you could validly ask "Why is it okay for dappled to post it but not me?"
I noticed all my other stories that day got approved or denied before your story, then there was a delay (like it was being talked about) and then finally it was denied.
Maybe it's just a point of principle now. If I leave it a few months and try again (when IIN users will have forgotten this), maybe it'll get through.
Really, dappled? An online test? Those are almost as stupid as offline tests.
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I hope so. This has really pissed me off. I don't even know why I did it. According to their test, anyone who prefers a museum over a party is somehow autistic. Well pardon fucking me for being curious about the world I live in.
I'm sure Professor Words, or whoever else came up with this piece of shit, is a real bon vivant, the life and soul of any party he attends, telling hilarious stories where he convinces people they have some kind of mental disability. I bet he'd even nod sagely and pretend to understand my "problem" little realising that he is the problem.
If he comes to any party of mine, I'll show him what a problem looks like. Not that this would ever happen. Because I don't hold parties. I'm autistic.
Okay, I'd better get back to drooling in the corner and avoiding eye-contact with people.
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That last paragraph was SO DISRESPECTFUL to people with Autism and Asperger's. We aren't all stupid you know!
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It honestly wasn't meant to be. It was meant to be sarcasm from someone who is now autistic. I kind of wanted to be on your side and point out how others view it. You're not the only person who questioned it, though. :)
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Oh...I see.
Perhaps be a little more considerate of others next time, though.
One word of warning: an AQ test is NOT a substitute for professional diagnosis - as reads the disclaimer.
I took one of those tests. It told me I was austistic too. But I really don't think I am. Do you think I am?
OP - I'm not mental. I have good days and bad days.
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No, I don't think you are, either. Nor do I think a friend of mine is, yet he's been diagnosed anyway. Not by an online test but by a real-life, honest-to-God, professional mental health worker who... administered the test. Well, that's alright then.
Hahahaha I've taken that test many times, and have gotten the same results. I thought the museum vs. party thing was interesting. It portrays a view that, if you prefer to go to museums, you're a messed up person, lol. Which doesn't make sense at all. I agree, I think these tests are laden with loaded questions and bias!
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Blah, I was so freaked out. I mean, I've got no problem with autistic people and it wouldn't bother me especially if I was autistic (and it would explain some things). It's just that I didn't think I was and here's this test scoring me right up towards the high end of the spectrum.
Glad to hear I'm not the only one who has been caught out by this. It's not often I have a major freak-out. Thanks, by the way.
Oh, and the questions were totally stupid. Like the museums versus party thing. I partied all the time and going to a museum was a rare thing, a treat, so obviously I'm going to pick museum. But it was "museum with a huge backdrop of socialising every other night" as opposed to "museum because I don't deal with with social situations". Stupid test. Grr!
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Initially I was freaked out as well. And the test did prove to me that I may have SOME traits of Aspergers. However, I did not think I was a full blown Aspie, and that's where my questioning of the test began (after seeing the results).
I think most, maybe if not all questions have some sort of weight to each, and some sort of bias. It makes you choose this or that, and if you're 'this' you display a trait of Autism or Aspergers, what have you. There are so many conditions that go with having Autism/Aspergers that it isn't simply defined as a yes/no question.
And to be honest, I am beginning to believe what my friend had said about it: "I don't believe in Aspergers. I think it's made up. Each human being has their own quirks.'' While I believe him almost 100%, the IS a difference between having quirks to having Autism and such.
But if you feel that you're normal, and the test says otherwise, don't believe it man. I figure that if I really feel like I have something like that, a doctor/specialist would be a better person at diagnosing it, than some stupid test!
You should hold a party at a museum; his head would explode.
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If you can guarantee that, then I'll make the arrangements.
You know those online tests are hardly accurate right? Don't put this label on yourself if you feel it's restricting. There's no need to start doubting your social skills.
For example, A couple of years ago I was diagnosed with AS by a psychologist. I didn't mind it that much first, I was actually glad since I scored exceptionally well on my IQ test. but my school counselor kept treating me like some full-blown autistic who can't even tie his own shoelaces.
It was harsh, and for a time, I did start doubting my social skills. But truth is, they weren't that bad, and there are very little things in life you can't work on. I worked on it by going out and talking to a lot of people. At parties, at school, on train rides,...
I managed to make friends, keep friends and score dates. So even if you do have AS, don't think that it completely ruins your chances of having a normal life. It's likely you have some points you should work on, but everybody has those.
Plus, it's an online test, they're usually overly simplified.
1. Do you sometimes need some time on your own?
a. No, always partying. ALWAYS. I love standing in a crowded place with music so loud I can't hear what stupid thing that mediocre-looking drunk chick is yelling in my ear.
b. Five minutes to Wapner.
If you're really curious, go get psychoanalyzed by an actual psychologist. Though I have to warn you: there's a reason why I don't tell people I have AS irl. Asperger's has a really bad reputation.
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Ahh, I know. There's a back-story to this involving friends out in real-life and, although I overreacted, there are reasons why I did. For once, it actually is too difficult to explain because it's a ten year story, but it bothered me quite a lot.
But thank you. :)
I have Asperger's Syndrome and I usually score 32!
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Hmm, do you actually feel you have Asperger's, though? I have some symptoms but then lots of things which point away from it.
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What symptoms do you have?
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My non-verbal communication is bad. I can read what signals people are sending me but I just don't seem able to send the right signals back. I get misread a lot. People think I'm thinking something but I'm not. People often think I'm judging them when I'm not.
But then, more and more I notice social awkwardness in others and I'm the one who is keeping everyone buzzing and happy and together. I'm the first to notice if the mood is turning, and I'm the first person to do something about it and get everyone back on track. I almost seem to see social things before others do, and it seems at odds with Asperger's.
I do often prefer my own company, though, because it's just easier, and I have a huge awareness of pattern and order and number and I guess I don't like it if things move outside the pattern they're supposed to be in. I notice it quickly.
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Sorry to reply so late!
Hmm...I can't say for sure, but from what you've said about your ability to hold social situations together in the way that you described, it almost feels as though you're social glue!
Then again, not all Aspies are terrible at mixing with others, though - naturally there is that element of social confusion. For example, I didn't go to school as a child (my teacher mum handled my education) and I've always ended up dropping out from dance classes, group activities, and friendships - I've only had one proper friend, and she ended up being terrible; I'm not much cop at interpreting other people's intentions. That's why my husband, John, is awesome. He's so understanding and manages to make me feel sexy...although that could be something to do with his being sexy...
I also have little empathy for others (to be honest, I now have to fake any sort of care).
A general list of 'Asperger and Autism points' to look out for are things like these:
¤ Anger issues
¤ Limited or no empathy for those around you
¤ Hyper- or hyposensitivity (with hypersensitivity, you have an extreme ability to react strongly to certain textures, sounds, pressures, visuals or tastes - with hypo-, you have a lessened sensitivity than what is considered to be average for most neurotypicals - NTs -).
¤ Tendency to take things literally
¤ Obsessions with certain topics
¤ Impeccable memory for certain subjects (for instance I remember small details and almost all words I read)
¤ Interests which may seem trivial or strange to outsiders (I like to read and study dictionaries, and collect random items which I stick into a scrapbook I made).
¤ Tendency to 'slip up' or make social blunders
¤ Motor-skill deficiency (such as; I didn't learn to ride a bike until I was 7, have been pretty rubbish at slicing food and using cutlery, tying shoelaces and I still can't swim)
¤ Clumsiness or spacial awareness issues
¤ Likeness for patterns
¤ Excessive fantasy life (I have a melee of imaginary friends; I call the entire scenario my Double Life)
¤ Social awkwardness
¤ Inability or little skill for making and maintaining friendships
¤ The few relationships may be intense and you might be dependent
That's all I can think of off-hand - I'll include a link to Aspires; a website which gives you a detailed, helpful set of questions adapted from the 1995 Garnett & Attwood Scale for Asperger's Syndrome, edited especially for adults.
It's really useful - my mum and I checked it out, and it helped me to print out the questions and tick and make notes beside the questions.
Aspires: <a href="http://www.aspires-relationships.com/articles_adult_version_austrailian_scale_for_as.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.aspires-relationships.com/articles_a...</a>
I really hope that helps and gives you some insight, do get back to me and let me know how you're getting on!
Good luck!
xx
P.S.
With Autism, there is a speech delay in childhood (stammers, monogamous tone, heightened or softened pitch, volume or tone, affected foreign accent, etc), whereas with Aperger's Syndrome speech is so-called normal.
Awe. Don't let it get you down dappled. Those tests online are usually full of bologna anyway.
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Yeah, they are. I really let it get to me and I'm surprised I did that. I guess if I start swearing in a post, I'm either rattled or doing it for comic effect. This time was "rattled". I feel a bit weak now, but I guess we all have our moments. :)