I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals. It's because I despise plants and want them all to die!
Okay, serious answer. Do I eat fish? Yes. Do I feel good about it? Not exactly. But this isn't a black or white issue. It's not about whether you eat meat or not. It's about what you are prepared to eat and what you are not prepared to eat. My line is just one bar lower than most people's. And it's one bar above vegans. I'm the middle child.
Vegetarians (or pescatarians in my case) don't go around hating meat eaters. I don't care what you do, just as you shouldn't care what I do. It's a personal decision. But if you've caught yourself feeling judged for eating meat, is it at all possible that it's because you feel guilty for doing it and would like something convenient to strike out at for making you feel this way?
Either way, don't look in my direction. I have my own problems to deal with because I eat fish.
I'm not much of a veggie person myself, but I LOVE fruit! So that's what I'll be having if I do become a vegetarian which I really want to. But my family literally is laughing in my face about it. I should them this video on youtube of what KFC does to there chicken and they were laughing, my dad said "Chicken's are stupid they deserve it!' I was pissed! Which made me even more disgusted (I'm a fairly stubborn person, if someone thinks I can't do something it makes me 10x more determined to do it!). But I know if I become a vegetarian I do need some source or protein, but I think it could possibly be hypocritical if I eat fish but I don't eat meat because fish are animals aswell. But they are a source of protein and like @KeyBoardSolo said they don't remember or even feel the pain. I think the longest memory spand they have is 3 seconds.
And I wouldn't try to pressure anyone into eating vegetarian, but laughing about these chickens being stomped on and chucked agaisnt a wall is horrible. I'm fine with people eating meat (I have my whole life) but when people just laugh about something so cruel it pisses me off. My dad said they were made to be killed, he might be right but were they ment to be stomped on and beaten and have there beaks cut off and every limb in there body broken, tortured but still alive and it horrible pain (my dad was raised on a farm where they killed the animals for food so he's been brought up this way, but it still annoys me when he talks this way, one time he told me (I was only 12 at the time) that he had a rabbit farm and his sister got really close with one of them and named him and everything. One night they were having rabbit and he just comes out and says 'Hey sis, were having you're little furry friend Brownie isn't he good?' stuff like that make me get really made at him).
It's horrible what they do in those factories, and my mom said 'Hahaha KFC Kuntucky Fired Cruelty! Hahaha' my brother said 'Hey want some KFC for supper tonight!' and my dad said 'Cruelty taste so damn good!'.
Well, I largely agree with you. I certainly don't think any animal has been put on this planet to die for our benefit. To think that way is arrogant beyond belief (sorry for insulting your family). It does sound like you have problems with your family and are choosing vegetarianism to prove a point to them. It really does need to be your own choice.
Next, yes, not eating meat means that you need to find things like protein, vitamin B, and iron in non-meat sources. It's really not difficult to do this and still avoid fish. I eat fish because I like it. The reason I have a problem with it is because I don't believe that fish are clueless amnesiac robots. In terms of its sense of the world, a shark has more ability to feel than a human, never mind a chicken. Although I'd never eat shark, a shark is a fish, and it's difficult to assume that nature has conspired to make all fish singularly unintelligent except one which has a quantum leap in the intelligence stakes. Evolution doesn't work that way.
I think it's great that you are thinking about vegetarianism. Food science has advanced to a point that we don't need to eat anything that has ever lived (including vegetables). Most things can be synthesised. But it would make for a hideously boring diet and I don't think anyone would go for it until that synthesis also makes food taste like bacon, chocolate, bread, etc.
One thing I should say - being a vegetarian can be hard work. It means a lifetime of studying food labels to see whether animal products are sneakily inserted into otherwise non-animal food. This is because our food industry is an absolute fucking shambles. If everyone simulataneously realised the truth about the food industry, we would riot. Things to look out for are cheese (rennet, from animal sources, is often used), jelly/jello (anything with gelatin is suspect), and anything containing white sugar (which may have been whitened using bones). Because of this, cakes and sweets can be difficult to prove vegetarian (which is why I bake so often myself).
Finally, vegetarianism comes with some health benefits. You're less likely to get some cancers, diabetes, heart disease, and Alzheimer's.
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I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals. It's because I despise plants and want them all to die!
Okay, serious answer. Do I eat fish? Yes. Do I feel good about it? Not exactly. But this isn't a black or white issue. It's not about whether you eat meat or not. It's about what you are prepared to eat and what you are not prepared to eat. My line is just one bar lower than most people's. And it's one bar above vegans. I'm the middle child.
Vegetarians (or pescatarians in my case) don't go around hating meat eaters. I don't care what you do, just as you shouldn't care what I do. It's a personal decision. But if you've caught yourself feeling judged for eating meat, is it at all possible that it's because you feel guilty for doing it and would like something convenient to strike out at for making you feel this way?
Either way, don't look in my direction. I have my own problems to deal with because I eat fish.
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I'm not much of a veggie person myself, but I LOVE fruit! So that's what I'll be having if I do become a vegetarian which I really want to. But my family literally is laughing in my face about it. I should them this video on youtube of what KFC does to there chicken and they were laughing, my dad said "Chicken's are stupid they deserve it!' I was pissed! Which made me even more disgusted (I'm a fairly stubborn person, if someone thinks I can't do something it makes me 10x more determined to do it!). But I know if I become a vegetarian I do need some source or protein, but I think it could possibly be hypocritical if I eat fish but I don't eat meat because fish are animals aswell. But they are a source of protein and like @KeyBoardSolo said they don't remember or even feel the pain. I think the longest memory spand they have is 3 seconds.
And I wouldn't try to pressure anyone into eating vegetarian, but laughing about these chickens being stomped on and chucked agaisnt a wall is horrible. I'm fine with people eating meat (I have my whole life) but when people just laugh about something so cruel it pisses me off. My dad said they were made to be killed, he might be right but were they ment to be stomped on and beaten and have there beaks cut off and every limb in there body broken, tortured but still alive and it horrible pain (my dad was raised on a farm where they killed the animals for food so he's been brought up this way, but it still annoys me when he talks this way, one time he told me (I was only 12 at the time) that he had a rabbit farm and his sister got really close with one of them and named him and everything. One night they were having rabbit and he just comes out and says 'Hey sis, were having you're little furry friend Brownie isn't he good?' stuff like that make me get really made at him).
It's horrible what they do in those factories, and my mom said 'Hahaha KFC Kuntucky Fired Cruelty! Hahaha' my brother said 'Hey want some KFC for supper tonight!' and my dad said 'Cruelty taste so damn good!'.
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Well, I largely agree with you. I certainly don't think any animal has been put on this planet to die for our benefit. To think that way is arrogant beyond belief (sorry for insulting your family). It does sound like you have problems with your family and are choosing vegetarianism to prove a point to them. It really does need to be your own choice.
Next, yes, not eating meat means that you need to find things like protein, vitamin B, and iron in non-meat sources. It's really not difficult to do this and still avoid fish. I eat fish because I like it. The reason I have a problem with it is because I don't believe that fish are clueless amnesiac robots. In terms of its sense of the world, a shark has more ability to feel than a human, never mind a chicken. Although I'd never eat shark, a shark is a fish, and it's difficult to assume that nature has conspired to make all fish singularly unintelligent except one which has a quantum leap in the intelligence stakes. Evolution doesn't work that way.
I think it's great that you are thinking about vegetarianism. Food science has advanced to a point that we don't need to eat anything that has ever lived (including vegetables). Most things can be synthesised. But it would make for a hideously boring diet and I don't think anyone would go for it until that synthesis also makes food taste like bacon, chocolate, bread, etc.
One thing I should say - being a vegetarian can be hard work. It means a lifetime of studying food labels to see whether animal products are sneakily inserted into otherwise non-animal food. This is because our food industry is an absolute fucking shambles. If everyone simulataneously realised the truth about the food industry, we would riot. Things to look out for are cheese (rennet, from animal sources, is often used), jelly/jello (anything with gelatin is suspect), and anything containing white sugar (which may have been whitened using bones). Because of this, cakes and sweets can be difficult to prove vegetarian (which is why I bake so often myself).
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I like what you wrote, I feel the same way about the food industry and everything!
sorry for the long write up :(