I recognize your penchant for linguistics and you raise some interesting points..the Greek and Hebrew terms that were translated considered a place of punishment for the naughty, or a place and/or consciousness where both the naughty and the good go in darkness ...but the concept (not necessarily a literal place) of Hell as a not so nice place to go where for the naughty that really sucks, and which is indirectly referred to in the modern English Bible is what I think folks are referring to here....The King James bible also indirectly speaks of what we today consider to the concept of a soul--i.e. God breathing into man, giving him life and man becoming a living soul while other English bibles refer to a 'being' which is considered to be the same as soul...Nonetheless these are all concepts that have changed over time...
The Hebrew term translated "soul" is "Ne'phesh". The term simply meant a living, physical being, and was used to refer to animals as well as human beings in the Hebrew scriptures. It did not refer to any sort of immaterial being that inhabited fleshly bodies and survived death. Interestingly, it is used to refer to animals before humans (Genesis 1:20). A "ne'phesh can die (Ezekiel 18:4). At Ecclesiastes 9:5, the dead are said to be conscious of nothing at all.
I could write a book about this, but I doubt I'd be the first, and the Bible itself is of course sufficient for those with alot of free time. The Bible is alot like "Origin of the Species" by Charles Darwin; They are both very large and controversial books that nobody actually reads.
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I recognize your penchant for linguistics and you raise some interesting points..the Greek and Hebrew terms that were translated considered a place of punishment for the naughty, or a place and/or consciousness where both the naughty and the good go in darkness ...but the concept (not necessarily a literal place) of Hell as a not so nice place to go where for the naughty that really sucks, and which is indirectly referred to in the modern English Bible is what I think folks are referring to here....The King James bible also indirectly speaks of what we today consider to the concept of a soul--i.e. God breathing into man, giving him life and man becoming a living soul while other English bibles refer to a 'being' which is considered to be the same as soul...Nonetheless these are all concepts that have changed over time...
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The Hebrew term translated "soul" is "Ne'phesh". The term simply meant a living, physical being, and was used to refer to animals as well as human beings in the Hebrew scriptures. It did not refer to any sort of immaterial being that inhabited fleshly bodies and survived death. Interestingly, it is used to refer to animals before humans (Genesis 1:20). A "ne'phesh can die (Ezekiel 18:4). At Ecclesiastes 9:5, the dead are said to be conscious of nothing at all.
I could write a book about this, but I doubt I'd be the first, and the Bible itself is of course sufficient for those with alot of free time. The Bible is alot like "Origin of the Species" by Charles Darwin; They are both very large and controversial books that nobody actually reads.
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Seems like you know your stuff, which is refreshing :)