The thing is there can't be evidence for atheism. You cannot prove that something doesn't exist. You can't prove that there isn't an invisible microscopic space alien living in your bloodstream.
Why would you believe in something (god) without enough evidence? Atheism should be the default. We are all born atheists.
We make and believe in many decisions (both meaningful and insignificant choices) on a hourly and daily basis without any or sufficient evidence. Some people attribute these decisions to gut instincts/purely us/physiology, and some people think its divine intervention... (the choice to eat a certain food believing it will taste good, or it will be good for us; the choice to walk down a certain street or drive down a certain road believing it will just get us where we need to go or that it will safe; the choice to say or do something cruel to someone believing it won't hurt them, purposely hurting them, or that we are justified in saying whatever the fuck we want when we want and who gives a shit about the other person's feelings; the choice to to defend yourself in a physical attack instinctually believing we should protect ourselves at all costs or believing we even have a chance at surviving the attack because we are being looked after/watched ....we make 100s of decisions each day without any evidence or sufficient evidence either way, and our choices change on a daily/weekly basis)...
The difference is that all of these things are safely assumed based on past experience. I have had many hamburgers in the past and can safely assume I would like one again today. I will take the same road home today because it also led home yesterday.
All of your examples are based on logic and experience. All of these things are absent in the case of God.
I sure haven't met him or had any reliable results from prayer in my life.
I respectfully disagree. I think it can go either way and there really is no guarantee of a safe/correct assumption with any decision/belief whatever that decision is based on. Nothing is really conclusive. Not all decisions are based on past experience (yes some are)… oftentimes people take chances on new choices/ideas without prior experiences—you could argue that half the time we are pulling shit out of our asses and hoping for the best based on what we think we know, what we've experienced, and what science tells us to believe, and the other half we are throwing shit up to the wind and leaving it up to some external entity to decide again hoping for the best). I think my examples (although simple ones) can be based on either divine intervention or logic and experience, and this can go back and forth on a daily basis, that is the honesty that I am trying to convey...I can honestly say I go back and forth on this particular topic...and I don't think I am alone here....everything is in a constant state of flux....scientific theory changes over time...religious beliefs change and adapt over time...nothing, science/logic and religion both, is conclusive or set in stone...I prefer to recognize the value of and enjoy the journey in working towards a synthesis of ideas…however long that take...in the end everybody on this board is just trying to make sense of and/or define their purpose in and alleviate the uncertainty of life while we still have life...
Do you believe in god? Where are you on the 7 point belief scale?
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The thing is there can't be evidence for atheism. You cannot prove that something doesn't exist. You can't prove that there isn't an invisible microscopic space alien living in your bloodstream.
Why would you believe in something (god) without enough evidence? Atheism should be the default. We are all born atheists.
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We make and believe in many decisions (both meaningful and insignificant choices) on a hourly and daily basis without any or sufficient evidence. Some people attribute these decisions to gut instincts/purely us/physiology, and some people think its divine intervention... (the choice to eat a certain food believing it will taste good, or it will be good for us; the choice to walk down a certain street or drive down a certain road believing it will just get us where we need to go or that it will safe; the choice to say or do something cruel to someone believing it won't hurt them, purposely hurting them, or that we are justified in saying whatever the fuck we want when we want and who gives a shit about the other person's feelings; the choice to to defend yourself in a physical attack instinctually believing we should protect ourselves at all costs or believing we even have a chance at surviving the attack because we are being looked after/watched ....we make 100s of decisions each day without any evidence or sufficient evidence either way, and our choices change on a daily/weekly basis)...
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The difference is that all of these things are safely assumed based on past experience. I have had many hamburgers in the past and can safely assume I would like one again today. I will take the same road home today because it also led home yesterday.
All of your examples are based on logic and experience. All of these things are absent in the case of God.
I sure haven't met him or had any reliable results from prayer in my life.
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I respectfully disagree. I think it can go either way and there really is no guarantee of a safe/correct assumption with any decision/belief whatever that decision is based on. Nothing is really conclusive. Not all decisions are based on past experience (yes some are)… oftentimes people take chances on new choices/ideas without prior experiences—you could argue that half the time we are pulling shit out of our asses and hoping for the best based on what we think we know, what we've experienced, and what science tells us to believe, and the other half we are throwing shit up to the wind and leaving it up to some external entity to decide again hoping for the best). I think my examples (although simple ones) can be based on either divine intervention or logic and experience, and this can go back and forth on a daily basis, that is the honesty that I am trying to convey...I can honestly say I go back and forth on this particular topic...and I don't think I am alone here....everything is in a constant state of flux....scientific theory changes over time...religious beliefs change and adapt over time...nothing, science/logic and religion both, is conclusive or set in stone...I prefer to recognize the value of and enjoy the journey in working towards a synthesis of ideas…however long that take...in the end everybody on this board is just trying to make sense of and/or define their purpose in and alleviate the uncertainty of life while we still have life...