"Freedom of Speech", is essentially correct, BUT only if that speech is correct, and is not intentionally false, misleading or deceptive (including half-truths or partial truths).
Please try to use correct / incorrect, rather than right / wrong.
We have only one Universal 'right', in reality; we have 'a right to die'.
Many 'morals' are founded in archaic thought / stories, and are no longer pertinent in the present-day era.
What makes you think that you are 'entitled' to anything, whether or not this has been made 'legal'?
Nature does not recognise whether or not something has been made 'legal' by humans.
Because nature isn't guided by a moral code, doesn't mean we shouldn't be. Our (natural) instinct is to form society, and in order to preserve society, we develop and promote a shared moral code. That makes morality an aspect of human nature, which is an aspect of wider nature. Nothing wrong with that... Oh sorry... Nothing INCORRECT with that.
I think I am entitled to certain moral rights because I was born and participate in a society which is founded upon moral rights and the preservation of said rights is necessary for the continuation of said society.
Humans (Homo sapiens sapiens) are not the only creatures [extant to Planet Earth] that form societies.
The other creatures which do normally form societies, in fact, do follow 'ethical' behaviour patterns, although these are sometimes purely or partly instinctive (especially among creatures which are not Sentient or not Sentient and Ethical).
'Morals' are peculiar to humans, 'ethics' are not.
Which 'rights' do you feel 'entitled' to?
Why do you stubbornly cling on to Archaic ideologies, and hence contribute to the stagnation of the development of civilisation and of advanced society?
We need to transform our society away from what is 'morally correct' to what is 'ethically correct'.
This will, in turn, change what is determined to be a 'legal entitlement'.
Our current civilisation is on a path to extinction. We must change, or face extinction.
What is 'moral', and what is 'ethical', is NOT exclusively synonymous.
Synonym discussion: moral ethical virtuous righteous noble mean conforming to a standard of what is right and good. moral implies conformity to established sanctioned codes or accepted notions of right and wrong <the basic moral values of a community>. ethical may suggest the involvement of more difficult or subtle questions of rightness, fairness, or equity <committed to the highest ethical principles>. virtuous implies moral excellence in character <not a religious person, but virtuous nevertheless>. righteous stresses guiltlessness or blamelessness and often suggests the sanctimonious <wished to be righteous before [one or more deities] and the world>. noble implies moral eminence and freedom from anything petty, mean, or dubious in conduct and character <had the noblest of reasons for seeking office>.
The definitions between these two terms have become blurred by some individuals, for usually either religious / political reasons, or through ignorance / laziness (generalization).
As I had stated previously; we must transform from what is deemed to be right / wrong, to what is actually correct / incorrect. Also, since we were ALL incorrect in our fundamental understanding of the Universe (whether we were / are religious or whether we were / are not religious), we need to re-think Philosophy as a whole. This is the true meaning and intent of 'ethics', whereas 'morals' are often (but not always) based in religious thought.
'Rights' are earned through responsible behaviour. Quite often, many of these so-called 'rights', which are automatically granted, are the incorrect behaviour(s).
You have chosen complacency. You have chosen a path to extinction.
Complacency is no longer an option.
I didn't say they were synonymous, dumdum, I said ethics are based upon morals. In the same way a word is based upon language.
I don't see a reason to continue this. You make mistakes and don't acknowledge them, you don't read responses properly, you're still deluded and think you know some 'universal truth' the superior alien beings informed you of. This undermines any credibility you otherwise might have as someone seeking a fundamental understanding of the universe.
You sound like a preacher delivering a street-side sermon to whomever might pass by, but your congregation of 'people who happen to be outside' simply see a crazy man warning of impending doom.
PLEASE refrain from incorrectly 'correcting' me. In fact, please refrain from speaking to me altogether. I gain nothing from it.
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"Freedom of Speech", is essentially correct, BUT only if that speech is correct, and is not intentionally false, misleading or deceptive (including half-truths or partial truths).
Please try to use correct / incorrect, rather than right / wrong.
We have only one Universal 'right', in reality; we have 'a right to die'.
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I used to miss your inane and incessant 'corrections'. Now I just wish you'd stay quiet :/
You need to brush up on your English. Here, I'll give you the Oxford Dictionary definition of the noun 'right':
noun
1 that which is morally correct, just, or honourable
2 a moral or legal entitlement to have or do something
3 (the right) the right-hand part, side, or direction
4 (often the Right) [treated as singular or plural] a group or party favouring conservative views and supporting capitalist principles
You see the 2nd definition there? A moral or legal entitlement. That is the 'right' I was using. NOT the adjective as you took it.
Did you know there are words called homonyms? Right is a homonym. Multiple definitions, but the same spelling and pronunciation.
So no, I won't use correct / incorrect when I mean a moral or legal entitlement. Idiot.
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Many 'morals' are founded in archaic thought / stories, and are no longer pertinent in the present-day era.
What makes you think that you are 'entitled' to anything, whether or not this has been made 'legal'?
Nature does not recognise whether or not something has been made 'legal' by humans.
You have 'a right to die'.
Please use correct / incorrect.
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Because nature isn't guided by a moral code, doesn't mean we shouldn't be. Our (natural) instinct is to form society, and in order to preserve society, we develop and promote a shared moral code. That makes morality an aspect of human nature, which is an aspect of wider nature. Nothing wrong with that... Oh sorry... Nothing INCORRECT with that.
I think I am entitled to certain moral rights because I was born and participate in a society which is founded upon moral rights and the preservation of said rights is necessary for the continuation of said society.
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Humans (Homo sapiens sapiens) are not the only creatures [extant to Planet Earth] that form societies.
The other creatures which do normally form societies, in fact, do follow 'ethical' behaviour patterns, although these are sometimes purely or partly instinctive (especially among creatures which are not Sentient or not Sentient and Ethical).
'Morals' are peculiar to humans, 'ethics' are not.
Which 'rights' do you feel 'entitled' to?
Why do you stubbornly cling on to Archaic ideologies, and hence contribute to the stagnation of the development of civilisation and of advanced society?
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There's no point discussing anything with you. Please don't speak to me.
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Lol :D
We need to transform our society away from what is 'morally correct' to what is 'ethically correct'.
This will, in turn, change what is determined to be a 'legal entitlement'.
Our current civilisation is on a path to extinction. We must change, or face extinction.
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But what is 'ethically correct' is based entirely on what is 'morally correct'.
You cannot have ethics without morals.
And I disagree with you. I don't think we are necessarily on any such path. Ism, ist, ism, ist, right, wrong, white, wong.
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Incorrect.
What is 'moral', and what is 'ethical', is NOT exclusively synonymous.
Synonym discussion: moral ethical virtuous righteous noble mean conforming to a standard of what is right and good. moral implies conformity to established sanctioned codes or accepted notions of right and wrong <the basic moral values of a community>. ethical may suggest the involvement of more difficult or subtle questions of rightness, fairness, or equity <committed to the highest ethical principles>. virtuous implies moral excellence in character <not a religious person, but virtuous nevertheless>. righteous stresses guiltlessness or blamelessness and often suggests the sanctimonious <wished to be righteous before [one or more deities] and the world>. noble implies moral eminence and freedom from anything petty, mean, or dubious in conduct and character <had the noblest of reasons for seeking office>.
The definitions between these two terms have become blurred by some individuals, for usually either religious / political reasons, or through ignorance / laziness (generalization).
As I had stated previously; we must transform from what is deemed to be right / wrong, to what is actually correct / incorrect. Also, since we were ALL incorrect in our fundamental understanding of the Universe (whether we were / are religious or whether we were / are not religious), we need to re-think Philosophy as a whole. This is the true meaning and intent of 'ethics', whereas 'morals' are often (but not always) based in religious thought.
'Rights' are earned through responsible behaviour. Quite often, many of these so-called 'rights', which are automatically granted, are the incorrect behaviour(s).
You have chosen complacency. You have chosen a path to extinction.
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Incorrect.
I didn't say they were synonymous, dumdum, I said ethics are based upon morals. In the same way a word is based upon language.
I don't see a reason to continue this. You make mistakes and don't acknowledge them, you don't read responses properly, you're still deluded and think you know some 'universal truth' the superior alien beings informed you of. This undermines any credibility you otherwise might have as someone seeking a fundamental understanding of the universe.
You sound like a preacher delivering a street-side sermon to whomever might pass by, but your congregation of 'people who happen to be outside' simply see a crazy man warning of impending doom.
PLEASE refrain from incorrectly 'correcting' me. In fact, please refrain from speaking to me altogether. I gain nothing from it.