But people are executed accidentally, even with video evidence. Imagine being accused of raping and murdering a child when you hadn't done it. Imagine being an atheist and knowing the only life you'll ever have is being terminated and nothing you say can stop it, even though you keep pleading your innocence. Imagine knowing that people aren't going to mourn your death because you're seen as evil when, really, you didn't do it, and they'll probably discover this at some point after your death. Some people haven't had to imagine this. Some people have lived it.
But taking the accidental factor away, have you ever made a mistake? And were you allowed a second chance? Do you think others shouldn't be allowed a chance? Paedophilia and child murder is an emotive one and I personally don't want anyone on the streets who is known to have done this and who may do it again. If one kid dies because someone hasn't been properly dealt with, then there's a failure in the system. But if the only way of dealing with people is to kill them, that's also a failure in the system.
i believe that anyone who can behave that way with an innocent child, regardless of the thoughts or feelings of that child does not deserve justice, and i believe that the government is totally justified in removing that persons life, just as that monster did to the child
the reason i believe this is that everyone has control over their own actions and can choose not to commit the crime and there fore serve the sentance, in other words if you do the crime then you do the time.
And if you're an Athiest, and belive this is your only life, then what about the person you raped and/or killed? You want people to hold your life more valuable than those you either ended or fucked up forever? That makes even less sense than a Christian that believes at least you're going to a pleasant afterlife after I fuck and kill you against your will.
OK, well if video evidence isn't enough, what about people who readily admit their crime? And I know, there's false confessions, but I'm talking about those who readily and credibly admit to it.
True but what about the people that don't care about the harm that they do and just enjoy raping and killing children? The type of people that do this more than twice...the type of people that don't learn and go right back to their old ways. I know of people like this and they are sick bastards who don't deserve to live in my eyes. You or others may even consider me a sick bastard for even thinking that death penalty should be allowed but for a lot of people, execution just has to be done.
I'd class people like that as mentally ill (although you have to be careful when judging that people are ill just because they don't match whatever version of society they were born into). But, as such, I'd think they need treatment. When we start killing people for being ill, it's a slippery slope as to what else we'll kill them for just because it's convenient.
Where do we draw the distinction between criminal tendencies, mental illness, or natural propensity to not care, though? Because it's such a difficult question, it doesn't have an easy answer. Probably why some people believe in the death penalty and some don't.
Hmm... you make a good point but I personally think the mental illness thing is used as an escape route. Some of these people don't need treatment and its not like they even have an OCD for killing - they just want to. And for that reason they should just die themselves. There are just some cruel sadistic people that hurt others but there is nothing seriously wrong with them - I think its just an excuse.
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But people are executed accidentally, even with video evidence. Imagine being accused of raping and murdering a child when you hadn't done it. Imagine being an atheist and knowing the only life you'll ever have is being terminated and nothing you say can stop it, even though you keep pleading your innocence. Imagine knowing that people aren't going to mourn your death because you're seen as evil when, really, you didn't do it, and they'll probably discover this at some point after your death. Some people haven't had to imagine this. Some people have lived it.
But taking the accidental factor away, have you ever made a mistake? And were you allowed a second chance? Do you think others shouldn't be allowed a chance? Paedophilia and child murder is an emotive one and I personally don't want anyone on the streets who is known to have done this and who may do it again. If one kid dies because someone hasn't been properly dealt with, then there's a failure in the system. But if the only way of dealing with people is to kill them, that's also a failure in the system.
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i believe that anyone who can behave that way with an innocent child, regardless of the thoughts or feelings of that child does not deserve justice, and i believe that the government is totally justified in removing that persons life, just as that monster did to the child
the reason i believe this is that everyone has control over their own actions and can choose not to commit the crime and there fore serve the sentance, in other words if you do the crime then you do the time.
And if you're an Athiest, and belive this is your only life, then what about the person you raped and/or killed? You want people to hold your life more valuable than those you either ended or fucked up forever? That makes even less sense than a Christian that believes at least you're going to a pleasant afterlife after I fuck and kill you against your will.
OK, well if video evidence isn't enough, what about people who readily admit their crime? And I know, there's false confessions, but I'm talking about those who readily and credibly admit to it.
True but what about the people that don't care about the harm that they do and just enjoy raping and killing children? The type of people that do this more than twice...the type of people that don't learn and go right back to their old ways. I know of people like this and they are sick bastards who don't deserve to live in my eyes. You or others may even consider me a sick bastard for even thinking that death penalty should be allowed but for a lot of people, execution just has to be done.
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I'd class people like that as mentally ill (although you have to be careful when judging that people are ill just because they don't match whatever version of society they were born into). But, as such, I'd think they need treatment. When we start killing people for being ill, it's a slippery slope as to what else we'll kill them for just because it's convenient.
Where do we draw the distinction between criminal tendencies, mental illness, or natural propensity to not care, though? Because it's such a difficult question, it doesn't have an easy answer. Probably why some people believe in the death penalty and some don't.
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Hmm... you make a good point but I personally think the mental illness thing is used as an escape route. Some of these people don't need treatment and its not like they even have an OCD for killing - they just want to. And for that reason they should just die themselves. There are just some cruel sadistic people that hurt others but there is nothing seriously wrong with them - I think its just an excuse.