She likes to belittle me like that. I've been outside of the USA in my service in the USN. I've decided America itself is the best system. She just bitterly rejects any viewpoint other than her own. Not unlike most far leftists.
I, too, was stationed abroad while in the USN. During that time, I decided that, on balance, the positives of life in Britain outweighed the negatives of American culture and life in the USA, and I've never returned to the country of my birth.
While I was in the service, I met a lot of jingoistic, brainwashed, blinkered yahoos who were incapable of seeing the USA - and the role they played as a tiny cog in the American military machine - with any degree of objectivity.
I have no idea what criteria you've used to judge the America as "the best". If you believe that the percentage of citizens a country imprisons, the amount of waste a country produces per capita, the amount spent on the military, the value of weapon exports, the rate of neonatal fatalities, the cost of prescription drugs and the cost of medical care in general, the number of calories consumed per day per person and a high rate of income inequality are all a case of "the more, the better", then the USA is indeed the greatest country in the world.
Unlike the straw-man leftists you believe in, I can see positive things about the fundamental aspirational ideals of the USA that every American kid is taught in grade school, but any adult who believes America is a shining city on the hill is fucking delusional. Believing the USA has a God-given right and duty to use its economic and military might to force other countries to emulate its system is downright evil.
So how was brexit 2.0 working out for you? The average british person chose the values economic and cultural individualism?
America is in a very precarious position. Being the worlds only superpower brings responsibility as well as the power to bring nearly every country to its knees if we REALLY wanted to. Why dont we conquer the world? Cause it's easier to trade then to burn. Every country relies on trade to keep their coffers filled and the power on in the house. Oil is a precious resorce while the UK has its wind and nuclear options you still rely on oil to get you through winter months.
The reason why we are always going into the middle east is to keep that oil flowing to our allies. Because the next biggest seller of oil in the region is russia. We do not want our allies to be in a precarious situation due to not having an antiquite supply of instant energy.
Capitalism and free trade is what keeps nearly every goverment afloat now a days. America might not be the leading exporter anymore but we have the financial stability to keep our populace from starving to death and everyone has an equal opportunity to go up or down.
"Straw-man leftists you believe in". They exist. Anyway, all countries have the right to try to force their systems onto other countries; what do you think militaries are for? Also, the number of prisoners is irrelevant, and the amount of waste produced per capita is irrelevant. The reason our country is getting worse and worse is because of how massively unconstitutional the government is. That is why we of the Constitution Party are trying to get our candidates elected.
I'm always partly amused and partly dismayed by Americans who fetishise the American Constitution and insist that the originalist interpretation is the only valid one. Their wilful refusal to acknowledge that the world has moved on a teensy bit since 1787 is touching, in a look-at-the-poor-old-lady-talking-to-her-dog-who-died-forty-years-ago sort of way.
Still, since belief that the Constitution is a holy document is usually accompanied by an unshakeable belief that an iron-age collection of fables and fairy-tales is the literal Word of God - while the Constitution is the Holy Writ Made Political - it is at least a mindset that's consistent in its delusions.
And, no, countries do not have the right under any interpretation of international law to force their systems onto other countries. Doing that is called a war of aggression. In fact, ever since WWII, the USA has continually been waging aggressive wars, but you've got away with it mainly because of the economic and military power of the USA, and because it's rarely been done by means of open use of American military force, but rather more sneakily by the use of proxies, by covert subversion of highly dubious foreigners, and by the use of economic force.
Actually, it's highly ironic for anyone who believes in the glorious/mystical origins of the USA and American Exceptionalism to support such aggression, considering that the main stated justification for the Declaration of Independence was that a group of people felt another country shouldn't force them to comply with laws they deemed foreign. (The true, underlying motives were far less noble than that, but no need to go into those here.)
Forbes (hardly a bunch of fruitcake lefties) reported last year that the war in Afghanistan has so far cost the USA something like $1 Trillion dollars ($1,000,000,000,000). Such numbers are bandied about easily in discussions of governmental budgets, but to put that number in relatable terms, a stack of one trillion dollar bills would be nearly 68,000 miles high, or one quarter of the way to the moon. That's not to mention the 2,400 Americans killed and 20,000 Americans wounded in Afghanistan. Of course, many more locals than that were also killed and maimed, but most Americans give less than a shit about them.
In spite of this vast expenditure and all the misery created, the end result is that Afghanistan is not that much different than it was at the start of the mess.
Just possibly, a significant factor in many of America's problems is that its sense of self-belief is so strong that it refuses to acknowledge and deal with the problems at home and instead persists in shoving it's nose into every part of the globe due to an incurable urge to convert the whole damn world into an American empire.
The extent is to be discussed. Physically they are a small part of the left. Much like a cancer they are spreading bring malignant destruction along with them.
Do most Democrats hate America?
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I, too, was stationed abroad while in the USN. During that time, I decided that, on balance, the positives of life in Britain outweighed the negatives of American culture and life in the USA, and I've never returned to the country of my birth.
While I was in the service, I met a lot of jingoistic, brainwashed, blinkered yahoos who were incapable of seeing the USA - and the role they played as a tiny cog in the American military machine - with any degree of objectivity.
I have no idea what criteria you've used to judge the America as "the best". If you believe that the percentage of citizens a country imprisons, the amount of waste a country produces per capita, the amount spent on the military, the value of weapon exports, the rate of neonatal fatalities, the cost of prescription drugs and the cost of medical care in general, the number of calories consumed per day per person and a high rate of income inequality are all a case of "the more, the better", then the USA is indeed the greatest country in the world.
Unlike the straw-man leftists you believe in, I can see positive things about the fundamental aspirational ideals of the USA that every American kid is taught in grade school, but any adult who believes America is a shining city on the hill is fucking delusional. Believing the USA has a God-given right and duty to use its economic and military might to force other countries to emulate its system is downright evil.
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So how was brexit 2.0 working out for you? The average british person chose the values economic and cultural individualism?
America is in a very precarious position. Being the worlds only superpower brings responsibility as well as the power to bring nearly every country to its knees if we REALLY wanted to. Why dont we conquer the world? Cause it's easier to trade then to burn. Every country relies on trade to keep their coffers filled and the power on in the house. Oil is a precious resorce while the UK has its wind and nuclear options you still rely on oil to get you through winter months.
The reason why we are always going into the middle east is to keep that oil flowing to our allies. Because the next biggest seller of oil in the region is russia. We do not want our allies to be in a precarious situation due to not having an antiquite supply of instant energy.
Capitalism and free trade is what keeps nearly every goverment afloat now a days. America might not be the leading exporter anymore but we have the financial stability to keep our populace from starving to death and everyone has an equal opportunity to go up or down.
"Straw-man leftists you believe in". They exist. Anyway, all countries have the right to try to force their systems onto other countries; what do you think militaries are for? Also, the number of prisoners is irrelevant, and the amount of waste produced per capita is irrelevant. The reason our country is getting worse and worse is because of how massively unconstitutional the government is. That is why we of the Constitution Party are trying to get our candidates elected.
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I'm always partly amused and partly dismayed by Americans who fetishise the American Constitution and insist that the originalist interpretation is the only valid one. Their wilful refusal to acknowledge that the world has moved on a teensy bit since 1787 is touching, in a look-at-the-poor-old-lady-talking-to-her-dog-who-died-forty-years-ago sort of way.
Still, since belief that the Constitution is a holy document is usually accompanied by an unshakeable belief that an iron-age collection of fables and fairy-tales is the literal Word of God - while the Constitution is the Holy Writ Made Political - it is at least a mindset that's consistent in its delusions.
And, no, countries do not have the right under any interpretation of international law to force their systems onto other countries. Doing that is called a war of aggression. In fact, ever since WWII, the USA has continually been waging aggressive wars, but you've got away with it mainly because of the economic and military power of the USA, and because it's rarely been done by means of open use of American military force, but rather more sneakily by the use of proxies, by covert subversion of highly dubious foreigners, and by the use of economic force.
Actually, it's highly ironic for anyone who believes in the glorious/mystical origins of the USA and American Exceptionalism to support such aggression, considering that the main stated justification for the Declaration of Independence was that a group of people felt another country shouldn't force them to comply with laws they deemed foreign. (The true, underlying motives were far less noble than that, but no need to go into those here.)
Forbes (hardly a bunch of fruitcake lefties) reported last year that the war in Afghanistan has so far cost the USA something like $1 Trillion dollars ($1,000,000,000,000). Such numbers are bandied about easily in discussions of governmental budgets, but to put that number in relatable terms, a stack of one trillion dollar bills would be nearly 68,000 miles high, or one quarter of the way to the moon. That's not to mention the 2,400 Americans killed and 20,000 Americans wounded in Afghanistan. Of course, many more locals than that were also killed and maimed, but most Americans give less than a shit about them.
In spite of this vast expenditure and all the misery created, the end result is that Afghanistan is not that much different than it was at the start of the mess.
Just possibly, a significant factor in many of America's problems is that its sense of self-belief is so strong that it refuses to acknowledge and deal with the problems at home and instead persists in shoving it's nose into every part of the globe due to an incurable urge to convert the whole damn world into an American empire.
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You're in vintage form. Thanks for the masterpiece.
I would be interested to know which item in O.P's list is imaginary because they are all very real.
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The extent is to be discussed. Physically they are a small part of the left. Much like a cancer they are spreading bring malignant destruction along with them.