ding an sich vs. cogito ergo sum

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  • People in Somalia could think the same thing about us.

    But I have no idea where Somalia is or any knowledge, so in my perception of reality it doesn't exist; if I visit it in 5 years and see that it exists then it becomes a part of my version of reality. But it was obviously there before I visited it.

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    • But you're doing it again - "see that it exists", "obviously there". What part of it is obvious? Does seeing something prove it exists? If I see a ghost, does it exist?

      I'm trying to argue that sensory phenomena does not necessarily equal reality; you are assuming that it does and using that as proof. "Reality is definite because I can see it" isn't a rational argument to me.

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      • I see what you mean, and know I'm confused about what to believeD:!! Especially with the ghost thing. Have you decided what you believe yet? I won't be able to help with this one:L

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