If you mean Kate thats my girlfriend and she found me and saved my life.
Anyone else I have no clue.
This thread isn't about me tho, I merely commented on the dangers of this type of thing.
While I have enjoyed group sex in the past it is a dark world and can lead to horrifc things.
I'm now in a committed relationship and won't return to that world. I still have urges tho and we deal with them as a couple, through discussion, sometimes roleplay but mostly discussion.
I think O.P here has said a few alarming things that leads me to believe he gets off on abusing women. I doubt he ever has but fantasing about it is sick i it's own right.
My childhood led me to believe abuse and submission to men like that was normal. It is very much NOT normal. I used to get off on it, and mentally i still get aroused but i am learning about it's psychosis.
It's been a while. Good to see you back. And sorry about whatever happened to you. You do sound a little more poised and staid than the Nikki we used to know. But I'm glad you powered through and came back in one piece.
Re: your last statement, I don't think you having enjoyed submission in the past means you were psychotic or ill, or else most people would be psychotic, since we all have those kinds of desires to one extent or another.
Whatever happened to you in those group sessions is exactly why I've been advocating from my very first comment for any woman to engage in them UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF A MAN SHE TRUSTS and who obviously also happens to be into this. There needs to be a capable guy to provide some structure under which all of this can happen; and by "capable" I mean someone who can plan the whole thing, vet new guys properly, give them the right instructions, kick out those who won't abide, and keep things from getting out of hand.
You're seeing my enjoying to dominate as abusive, etc. But there's a difference between dominating some chick I don't care about, and giving it rough to my girl whom I look after and take care of in many other ways. When a guy cares about you, when he's YOUR guy, his rough ways are closer to a display of unbridled passion and attachment towards his girl, an expression of his ownership of hers, than to gratuitous abuse, even though the two can look fairly similar to an outsider unfamiliar with the dynamic in that couple.
When you say you getting off on being submissive to men as a sign of psychosis... It all depends on which men. If it's just gratuitous abuse from any man, then yes, that's problematic and pathological. But if it's from a guy who cares about you, supports you, provides you structure and boundaries in life, then submitting to him and him having some authority over you is as natural as it gets. Especially if you can trust him dealing with things, taking care of business, and giving you security.
But you need to find the right guy first. If group sex and having several partners satisfies you sexually, then look for a guy who's into that, like a hotwifer for example, but who also has the other mentioned qualities. Once you find him, and you trust he cares about what's best for you and can handle himself in the world and also you, then submit to him, and to whatever he has you do (have you gain some weight, get gangbanged, rent you out, whatever), because you'll know he knows best. That's the best way of achieving two of the things we desire most in life: sexual satisfaction + security.
As you are posting anon I don't who you are but thanks for the kind words.
I think everyone has a right to experience whatever they desire sexually as long as it doesn't hurt others.
This behavior/activity is one I've enjoyed in the past however there is a razor edge everyone walks when doing it, and thats why I no longer participate. The line behind healthy fun amd psychotic behavior is blurred in my opinion.
3 things you stated raised my hackles, which is why I stated what I did. The first is your repeatwd use of the term "used" and "use her". These terms mean deception.
The second:
"Every girl needs this because when she gets subdued like that by this much maleness around her, only then will she be able to feel truly female, and fulfilled."
No, women do not need men to subdue them to feel female. That's absurd and it's abusive.
The third:
"submit to him, and to whatever he has you do (have you gain some weight, get gangbanged, rent you out, whatever)"
This. Ownership of another human being and renting them out is psychosis plain and simple. There is no other word for it other than delusional and fucking sick.
Sorry, you can speak well, you can attempt to say its all with respect and love, or whatever you would need to rationalize the behavior, but those words and thoughts are disgusting.
And yes, I use to role play as a slave girl and do these things. I've also been sold. It was wrong.
It led me to suicide. It won't lead everyone there but as I said in my first response. Buyer beware.
Listen, you can diss these things however you like, but the truth remains that they bring sexual satisfaction to all parties involved. Now, that's life, and sometimes you trade some of this for some of that.
Human beings generally want three main things: emotional satisfaction, sexual satisfaction, and security. If you place a premium on ensuring #1 and #3, then you most likely won't get #2, or not as much as you'd like to. You want to go all dignity this, psychosis that, fine, but you're gonna have to do without a sexually fulfilling life. That's the usual trade-off. It'll just be good old missionary three days a week with a nice guy, and making love, feeling equal, and that's that. And if you're fine with that, then that's fine.
By the way, "use" wasn't referring to deception, but to physical use, as in using her body like a piece of meat, having full control over it, something like that. And you can claim women don't need to be subdued and dominated to truly feel female, but you know that's BS. That's what the female truly craves sexually, a dominant force that overpowers her in one way or another. Again, you may lead a nice little pretty Mitt Romney / feminist / gender studies life without it, but you'll never be as sexually satisfied, feeling that ecstasy, that release, as when you experience and feel that.
My solution is as closest as you can get to obtaining all three, i.e. by having a man you can trust providing security and emotional connection, while at the same time having authority over you to also provide sexual fulfillment. And there's no razor edge when I'm around to handle things, because I know exactly what I want to do and what to expect from the experience, and my girls knows that. You don't want the authority part? You want to take the self-respect and dignity and equality and sexual morality route? Okay. But do know that all this does is lull the sexual beast in you into a temporary slumber. And the the beast won't go away, it'll keep lurking beneath the surface, still wanting craving being made to submit, and wanting to feel the superior power and authority over you. And it won't be satisfied with dialogue with an equal lackluster significant other, perhaps not even role-playing. It just wants to be used, made to, and done to, preferably by a man who can also make her feel secure and cherished.
Did you ever get gangbanged?
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I didnt pretend anything hun. I was hospitalized for over a month.
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If you mean Kate thats my girlfriend and she found me and saved my life.
Anyone else I have no clue.
This thread isn't about me tho, I merely commented on the dangers of this type of thing.
While I have enjoyed group sex in the past it is a dark world and can lead to horrifc things.
I'm now in a committed relationship and won't return to that world. I still have urges tho and we deal with them as a couple, through discussion, sometimes roleplay but mostly discussion.
I think O.P here has said a few alarming things that leads me to believe he gets off on abusing women. I doubt he ever has but fantasing about it is sick i it's own right.
My childhood led me to believe abuse and submission to men like that was normal. It is very much NOT normal. I used to get off on it, and mentally i still get aroused but i am learning about it's psychosis.
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Hey Nikki,
It's been a while. Good to see you back. And sorry about whatever happened to you. You do sound a little more poised and staid than the Nikki we used to know. But I'm glad you powered through and came back in one piece.
Re: your last statement, I don't think you having enjoyed submission in the past means you were psychotic or ill, or else most people would be psychotic, since we all have those kinds of desires to one extent or another.
Whatever happened to you in those group sessions is exactly why I've been advocating from my very first comment for any woman to engage in them UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF A MAN SHE TRUSTS and who obviously also happens to be into this. There needs to be a capable guy to provide some structure under which all of this can happen; and by "capable" I mean someone who can plan the whole thing, vet new guys properly, give them the right instructions, kick out those who won't abide, and keep things from getting out of hand.
You're seeing my enjoying to dominate as abusive, etc. But there's a difference between dominating some chick I don't care about, and giving it rough to my girl whom I look after and take care of in many other ways. When a guy cares about you, when he's YOUR guy, his rough ways are closer to a display of unbridled passion and attachment towards his girl, an expression of his ownership of hers, than to gratuitous abuse, even though the two can look fairly similar to an outsider unfamiliar with the dynamic in that couple.
When you say you getting off on being submissive to men as a sign of psychosis... It all depends on which men. If it's just gratuitous abuse from any man, then yes, that's problematic and pathological. But if it's from a guy who cares about you, supports you, provides you structure and boundaries in life, then submitting to him and him having some authority over you is as natural as it gets. Especially if you can trust him dealing with things, taking care of business, and giving you security.
But you need to find the right guy first. If group sex and having several partners satisfies you sexually, then look for a guy who's into that, like a hotwifer for example, but who also has the other mentioned qualities. Once you find him, and you trust he cares about what's best for you and can handle himself in the world and also you, then submit to him, and to whatever he has you do (have you gain some weight, get gangbanged, rent you out, whatever), because you'll know he knows best. That's the best way of achieving two of the things we desire most in life: sexual satisfaction + security.
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As you are posting anon I don't who you are but thanks for the kind words.
I think everyone has a right to experience whatever they desire sexually as long as it doesn't hurt others.
This behavior/activity is one I've enjoyed in the past however there is a razor edge everyone walks when doing it, and thats why I no longer participate. The line behind healthy fun amd psychotic behavior is blurred in my opinion.
3 things you stated raised my hackles, which is why I stated what I did. The first is your repeatwd use of the term "used" and "use her". These terms mean deception.
The second:
"Every girl needs this because when she gets subdued like that by this much maleness around her, only then will she be able to feel truly female, and fulfilled."
No, women do not need men to subdue them to feel female. That's absurd and it's abusive.
The third:
"submit to him, and to whatever he has you do (have you gain some weight, get gangbanged, rent you out, whatever)"
This. Ownership of another human being and renting them out is psychosis plain and simple. There is no other word for it other than delusional and fucking sick.
Sorry, you can speak well, you can attempt to say its all with respect and love, or whatever you would need to rationalize the behavior, but those words and thoughts are disgusting.
And yes, I use to role play as a slave girl and do these things. I've also been sold. It was wrong.
It led me to suicide. It won't lead everyone there but as I said in my first response. Buyer beware.
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Listen, you can diss these things however you like, but the truth remains that they bring sexual satisfaction to all parties involved. Now, that's life, and sometimes you trade some of this for some of that.
Human beings generally want three main things: emotional satisfaction, sexual satisfaction, and security. If you place a premium on ensuring #1 and #3, then you most likely won't get #2, or not as much as you'd like to. You want to go all dignity this, psychosis that, fine, but you're gonna have to do without a sexually fulfilling life. That's the usual trade-off. It'll just be good old missionary three days a week with a nice guy, and making love, feeling equal, and that's that. And if you're fine with that, then that's fine.
By the way, "use" wasn't referring to deception, but to physical use, as in using her body like a piece of meat, having full control over it, something like that. And you can claim women don't need to be subdued and dominated to truly feel female, but you know that's BS. That's what the female truly craves sexually, a dominant force that overpowers her in one way or another. Again, you may lead a nice little pretty Mitt Romney / feminist / gender studies life without it, but you'll never be as sexually satisfied, feeling that ecstasy, that release, as when you experience and feel that.
My solution is as closest as you can get to obtaining all three, i.e. by having a man you can trust providing security and emotional connection, while at the same time having authority over you to also provide sexual fulfillment. And there's no razor edge when I'm around to handle things, because I know exactly what I want to do and what to expect from the experience, and my girls knows that. You don't want the authority part? You want to take the self-respect and dignity and equality and sexual morality route? Okay. But do know that all this does is lull the sexual beast in you into a temporary slumber. And the the beast won't go away, it'll keep lurking beneath the surface, still wanting craving being made to submit, and wanting to feel the superior power and authority over you. And it won't be satisfied with dialogue with an equal lackluster significant other, perhaps not even role-playing. It just wants to be used, made to, and done to, preferably by a man who can also make her feel secure and cherished.
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Or I can have wild fullfilling monkey sex with my girlfriend.
To each his own.
Hi Nikki. Glad to see you are ok.
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Hi sweety, how are u?
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