Conspiracy theorists

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I know our government isn't totally reliable, especially under the unfortunate current administration, but do you think these coronavirus conspiracy theorists are going a bit too far? Unfortunately there are gullible people who buy into this bullshit and add to the fear. There always seem to be these nuts no matter what happens (Holocaust deniers, moon landing faked, Area 51, flat earthers, etc.) What do you think?

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  • howaminotmyself
    3 years ago

    The problem with extreme conspiracy is that you can't actually have a debate. Any disagreement devolves into accusations of being brainwashed or a sheep. Completely non productive.

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    • Tommythecaty
      3 years ago

      Very true. Also difficult because it tends to revolve around a topic that is difficult to prove either way.

      The moon landing, was I there? No, so how can I know what went down.

      Have I been to space to 100% confirm the earth is round? No.

      So they can just play that card while piling on huge jumps in logic.

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  • RoseIsabella
    3 years ago

    I don't know about all of that mess, I just hope the tigers at the Bronx zoo are doing okay, and I yes I'm dead serious, because there are big cats who have contracted the virus.

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    • [Old Memory]
      3 years ago

      Yes, that is very sad. I had been hoping animals would immune but I guess not. I hear they can get it but not pass it on.

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      • RoseIsabella
        3 years ago

        I guess I'm really worried, because I'm afraid that I will catch the virus, spread it to my elderly parents, and cat. I'm also afraid that the virus could mutate into Feline Infectious Peritonitis, but I had another cat, an older brother of his from a previous litter, who died of FIP.

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        • [Old Memory]
          3 years ago

          I'm a cat lover too but so far my Lilly and I are doing fine. She's the light of my life!

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          • RoseIsabella
            3 years ago

            Yes, my cat is my sunshine!

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  • Mammal-lover
    3 years ago

    Corona came around because we falsely let people beilive the earth is round. The ilumanti has joined forces with the kkk and the nazi extremists to pull it off

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    • bigbudchonga
      3 years ago

      Mammal-lover, NO! They'll come to your house and make you hang yourself! For the love of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, put on your tinfoil hat asap!

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      • Mammal-lover
        3 years ago

        But how else will I experibce the ultimate clown porn release?:

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    • Boojum
      3 years ago

      You forgot to mention the Freemasons, the Bilderberg Group and the Reptillians.

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      • Mammal-lover
        3 years ago

        Ah shit your right. I wouldnt even know how to combine them in as well. Ok and they are all led by trump. You perfect there we go

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      • [Old Memory]
        3 years ago

        And the young Earth creationists!

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        • Mammal-lover
          3 years ago

          The what now?

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          • [Old Memory]
            3 years ago

            People who believe the earth is only about 6,000 years old and believe we were created, not evolved. I guess that really doesn't fit in with conspiracies though.

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  • bigbudchonga
    3 years ago

    Yeah, it's kind of annoying. My mum heard a woman say it was released so businesses could rake in money, lol.

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  • Gabloo
    3 years ago

    Personally I think that all of the conspiracy theory is are false I know for a fact that the earth isn’t flat because I’ve been to the top of the earths atmosphere and see the curvature of the earth. However, I suspect that we can’t exactly gauge the coronavirus because we don’t know what’s going on quite yet it’s possible that some and created it like a 12 monkey situation but at the same time it’s probably unlikely and it was just an unfortunate events. The people who buy into all this Bullshit though are just uneducated and are likely getting their information from something they heard

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  • FromTheSouthWeirdMan
    3 years ago

    I agreed until you grouped moon landing people in with them. When I see the moon landing footage I cant help but giggle how fake it is. Go back and look at it. Its funny.

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    • JellyBeanBandit
      3 years ago

      But what other moon landing footage are you comparing it with to have that opinion?

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      • FromTheSouthWeirdMan
        3 years ago

        Just look at it lol

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      • SmokeEverything
        3 years ago

        Compare it to regular fake movies from the 60s haha. NASA is full of crap. Have you ever seen how fake those space station broadcasts look? Literally 100% of NASA media could be faked with existing film and image editing techniques. That's why people should be skeptical.

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        • JellyBeanBandit
          3 years ago

          I could but then what would that prove? I'm no expert, and neither are you. However hundreds of actual film experts have thoroughly analysed the moon landing footage frame-by-frame and concluded that they couldn't possibly have been faked using 1960s technology.

          And to believe that the space station has been faked is just a new level of ludicrous. There'd have to be a conspiracy involving about a million people. That would be impossible to achieve, so much so that they'd be a laughing stock for even attempting it. It'd be much easier to just fly up there and build the thing. Guided rockets have been around since WWII, it'd be odd if they didn't have a space station by now. In fact if they didn't, then no doubt the conspiracy would be that there is a secret space station and that we have gone to the moon. People are never happy with the truth, conspiracies are always so much more alluring.

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          • SmokeEverything
            3 years ago

            The whole issue is they couldn't have possibly went to the moon and back with 1960's technology. They can't do it now. Outside of the actors that claim to have went to space, nobody else would need to be in on the conspiracy. Look at Elizabeth Holmes's Theranos scam for what you can accomplish by rigidly compartmentalizing your employees, most of the people working for scam companies don't realize they're part of a scam, they're just showing up to work. The people working in factories don't see where the things they're building wind up.

            "It would be much easier to do it for real" only applies if they actually have the ability to do it for real in the first place. If they don't actually have the technology, which I don't believe they do, they wouldn't have any option other than to fake it. All the technology that would be needed to fake it exists, and is known in the open to exist.

            The walls are stained from food in the room on the fake station where they allegedly eat their meals. They've said this. Imagine how sick they could get if they inhaled some of the particles of rancid food that would need to be floating around in there to stain the walls. Imagine how sick they could get if they accidentally inhaled urine or feces particles that escaped the toilets (the toilet they show you could have been built by a 5th grader with construction paper and vacuum hoses) Why would space walks be necessary to change things like batteries on the outside of the ship when it would've made more sense to have them inside in the first place? They need shock absorbers on their exercise equipment so the vibration doesn't throw the space station out of orbit, but they can kick off the walls freely as much as they want. How does the space station compensate if it starts moving the wrong way? The amount of fuel required to bring fuel up there would be staggering since 95% of the weight of the rocket is fuel.

            Or they could hang in harnesses in front of a green screen, and green screen space behind a guy in a fake space suit floating in a pool. Which would be easier?

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            • JellyBeanBandit
              3 years ago

              Yes they could've done it with 1960s technology. The main thing required to get to the moon is massive rockets, and a massive budget to fund them (which they had). They didn't need a powerful computer on board, they had people flying the spaceship instead. That's not always the case for spaceships nowadays because a lot of them are unmanned. Besides, NASA have admitted to taking way more risk with their astronauts' lives back then than is acceptable (or even permitted) nowadays. There was a space race going on and they were losing, the reputation of the entire country was at stake. So given the fact that they had a way bigger budget back then (a decent size of the entire country's budget) and could cut corners on safety, it was totally possible.

              They could've definitely made a fake video that would've fooled any lay person like you or me, but would never have passed the tests of professional forensic video analysts.

              Oh yeah, there's also the actual undeniable evidence they went to the moon. Like the moon rocks they brought back with them and the reflector mirrors they left on the moon, which scientists all around the world use to this day to bounce lasers off.

              As for all those other space station arguments, like I said, I'm no expert so I can't answer that, but then neither are you. So please stop denouncing this stuff like you know anything about it, and spreading misunderstood misinformation around the internet. Why don't you seek out an expert who can actually answer these questions before you go using them as 'evidence'? (And please don't take some random stranger's inability to answer them as any validation for your argument, you may as well have asked my dog those questions)

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        • FromTheSouthWeirdMan
          3 years ago

          I wouldnt go as far to say 100% of nasa is fake. But definitely the moon landing is.

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          • [Old Memory]
            3 years ago

            I don't think so. Didn't you read the previous response from JellyBeanBandit?

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            • FromTheSouthWeirdMan
              3 years ago

              My dad is a local politician and very conservative guy. He loves Regan and Trump and laughs at any conspiracy theory. Me and my dad had this same discussion and he rolled his eyes. Then I forced him to sit and watch some of the footage from the moon landing and about 30 seconds later he laughed and looked and me and said "It does look pretty fake..."

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          • SmokeEverything
            3 years ago

            I think the majority of it is. The evidence to back up the space station is just as strong as the moon landing, or literally anything else they claim to have done. I mean the moon landing is comically fake, it's as obvious as Barney not being a real dinosaur or homer simpson not being a real human being. If you believe that crap is real you'd believe a guy with a picture of a tinfoil wrapped refrigirator box at a renaissance fair built a time machine. So if they faked that, why would they ever do it for real?

            I've watched HOURS of space station crap and it looks pretty fake man, literally every bit of it COULD have possibly been faked. There is literally zero actual proof that would satisfy a skeptic that anyone has ever been to space.

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    • [Old Memory]
      3 years ago

      I assume you're kidding. At least I hope so.

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      • FromTheSouthWeirdMan
        3 years ago

        take a look at the footage

        https://youtu.be/99UL4FokYQo

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        • leggs91200
          3 years ago

          I find it strange how they were supposedly able to do that in the 60's but never during the 80's. I mean technology had advanced several years so would such a trip had been easier?

          It's also kind of weird how the flag doesn't fall. Sure there is no atmosphere to blow it around but there is gravity.

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          • FromTheSouthWeirdMan
            3 years ago

            Yeah the whole thing is silly. Especially when u go back and watch the footage.

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        • litelander8
          3 years ago

          It looked like tellietubbies before all the acid.

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          • SmokeEverything
            3 years ago

            It's not even looking for proof that video is fake, it's asking if that is actually proof that somebody did something incredible.

            The argument that it would be more expensive to fake it than really do it is the funniest one. Seems it would be cheaper to fake some really low quality footage and shoot a rocket off into the bermuda triangle

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      • SmokeEverything
        3 years ago

        NASA started as a bunch of Nazi war criminals who got pardoned from war crimes because they said the missles they were working on could take people to space. Now in 2020 still zero people have been to space.

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  • Fugazi,again
    3 years ago

    I don't believe anything NASA says because they are nazis

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    • SmokeEverything
      3 years ago

      Operation Paperclip says you're correct.

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  • litelander8
    3 years ago

    It’s all about that 5g.

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  • Boojum
    3 years ago

    Half of the world has an IQ below 100, and the education system in most places is so borked that a lot of people with even average intelligence leave it knowing fuck-all about how the world works and completely lacking in any skills in logic or critical thinking.

    Virtually everyone who was born before the Enlightenment understood what happened in the world to be the result of the mysterious actions of an invisible God and Devil. Science has let us see that there are more logical explanations for what we see going on around us, but all that is too complex for a lot of people, so they revert to the primitive mindset. The only difference being that the role of the Devil is now played by invisible, malign conspiracies.

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    • SmokeEverything
      3 years ago

      Science is the exact same thing as religion. You're believing something because somebody smarter than you taught it to you.

      Most conspiracy theory is stupid and some of it is specifically designed to make questioning the official narrative look stupid. Like the CIA putting undercovers into the black panthers to radicalize them so they could be declared a terrorist organization. But Here we are after the enlightenment and you have people believing everything they see on TV without asking the question of "Why would people who are profiting from my labor possibly want to decieve me in any way"

      Questioning the official narrative IS logic and critical thinking. Believing what you're told is religion.

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      • Boojum
        3 years ago

        "Science is the exact same thing as religion."

        That's utter bullshit, and anyone who spews such crap is demonstrating that they know fuck-all about science. They're also proving that they're incurious and intellectually lazy, since they've clearly never bothered to study any branch of science beyond the dumbed-down stuff taught in primary school.

        We home educate our daughter, and at the moment we're working though chemistry, biology and physics at what would be high-school level in the USA. What's struck me again coming back to basic science is how it all hangs together and forms a coherent, consistent whole, with the same principles being seen at work in a range of settings. It's not a matter of belief, and it's only a matter of having to believe what experts tell you in a book if you can't be fucking bothered to get off your ass, do some experiments, take some measurements and confirm if what you perceive and measure is what the books say should happen.

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        • [Old Memory]
          3 years ago

          Science has proof to back it up and religion has none. Thanks Boojum. I wasn't quite sure how to respond to that statement that they are the same.

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          • SmokeEverything
            3 years ago

            Not everything in science has proof to back it up. It's not the same thing but most people into science believe what they're told. You can't prove gravity, or evolution, to yourself. NASA has zero proof of going to space that would satisfy even a mild skeptic. Considering NASA is not a credible source of information, the majority of what we think we know about the universe goes away. It's all pictures created by artists, basically all of astrophysics is completely theoretical.

            Congratulations on your daughter being smart and remembering facts she's told. This is all school is, the comparison to religion comes from the way you're assuming all the things in the books she's studying are correct. History is doctored and innaccurate, why should we trust other subjects to be correct? Math is literally just following directions. Basic anything will come together to form a coherent whole to people who don't question it too deeply.

            For example, there's NO experiment you can do that will show a rocket taking off, steering, and landing again. That's because it can't be done. But people watch SpaceX launches (or more commonly, just hear about them" and assume it's true because it's on the news. Do you honestly believe presidential elections are real? Are you studying all these subjects with the mindset that you should question literally everything? School isn't about making people smart. Livestock aren't allowed to learn the purpose of the farm they live on.

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            • KholatKhult
              3 years ago

              I’m not going to get into this cause I can accept that I know nothing about anything but your farming examples are always so funny lol

              Because as someone who deals with livestock everyday, those motherfuckers know exactly what’s going on lmfao you need to give barnyard animals more credit

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  • init4thelongrun
    3 years ago

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j98HZq4Lfvk
    That's how real NASA is🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

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  • init4thelongrun
    3 years ago

    Well if they feed you 60% truth and 40% bulshit it helps to keep things top secret. By putting up a smoke screen of false narrative it makes people question what they already know or maybe even seen. Doing it this way it makes it seem like more to the story. So now even if you come out with the truth at this point and tell the direct truth, that doubt that was installed from the false narrative that's enough to keep it from being fact. Mix that with the propaganda even if it was the absolute truth you still have questions. Even if you come out and have the truth or what you believe to be the truth.... now you be discredited and called a conspiracy nut job anti-government

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  • jethro
    3 years ago

    Here you have a virus with a survival rate of 98%. But they are treating it like it is the bubonic plague. More people are murdered each day in New York City than are supposedly dying of the COVID-19 virus. The news is showing Italian hospital photos and claiming it is in NYC. More lies. But Cuomo wont do anything about murders or the homeless. LA is the just same but with 65% of the nations homeless pooping on the sidewalks. There is something more nefarious afoot that the they wont share because it would most likely cause the populas to rise up and overthrow their governments and replace them with something better, once they find out what they have been up to.

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  • SmokeEverything
    3 years ago

    I'm not saying the earth is flat, but the earth being round doesn't mean they have technology to leave it. I don't believe the "earth" that we live on is exactly the way they portray it, it could be bigger, there could be more land, flat earth turns into a way for literal biblical creationists to hijack the argument. Look, I believe we live in a created place, I've done way too many psychedelic drugs to completely doubt that something exists that some misled people might have worshipped as "god" at some points in history. Flat earth is disinformation.

    It's not that I can't understand it, I've never seen, and nobody has ever been able to show me, undeniable proof that space travel isn't just a tax scam. Look up "Operation Mockingbird." The CIA has been planting propaganda in TV, radio, movies, and news media since the late 40's, both in the US and other countries. The astrophysicists, chemists, biologists, etc, are all compartmentalized in their own specific task and don't check with each other to see what's going on on a large scale. They're just people going to work and doing what they're told. The people building a rocket engine don't get to see where it goes and everything it does after it leaves the ground.

    I've gotten into heated arguments with some hardcore moon-believers about this. The thing is, none of them ever have real proof to show me. You're kind of showing the exact opposite of what you're calling me, "I understand precisely how it all works in theory, so that means it's totally possible, and works correctly in reality" Look up the diagram of how the queqiao satellite for china's moon rover orbits NOTHING out in space, and tell me this is how gravity works. It's ridiculous.

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  • Avocadopeople
    3 years ago

    You're all sheep for believing the Earth is round. When I look out my window it's a straight line. How is that even debatable? And the moon landing? We don't even have that technology to travel halfway there. Aliens are disguised as humans. When they're in sunlight you can see their reptilian eyes.

    I'm joking, relax.

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  • Inkmaster
    3 years ago

    I wouldn't say that all of them are true, but conspiracies do happen. If they didn't, there wouldn't be laws regarding them. I don't think covid-19 is created by cell towers or whatever, but the fact that the sight of the outbreak is right across the street from a pathogen lab is pretty suspect. I'm not saying it was intentional, or that it even necessarily happened, I'm just saying that it's too big of a coincidence to be ignored.

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  • Meowypowers
    3 years ago

    The alex jones types are definitely batshit (pun intended), but it would be ignorant to think governments were purely altruistic to their citizens.

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    • SmokeEverything
      3 years ago

      "conspiracy theorists" who have a really mainstream platform like that usually just make their own arguments look stupid.

      That guy from ancient aliens is supposed to look like a clown.

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  • SmokeEverything
    3 years ago

    I mean some guy in china ate a bat and now the whole world is sick is a pretty unlikely scenario

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  • KholatKhult
    3 years ago

    Holocaust.... deniers???
    What does that even mean?

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    • Boojum
      3 years ago

      I assume that's a genuine question.

      The answer is people who believe that the Third Reich didn't set out to exterminate Europe's Jews and didn't kill a few million of them. As far as they're concerned, the holocaust is a fiction invented by a Jewish conspiracy, the extermination camps were just ordinary prisons which unfortunately had a high death-rate due to lack of resources because of the war and the gas chambers really were just delousing showers.

      I'm sure there's a subset of that group who also believe that the Soviet Union didn't do much in WWII, and the war was won single-handed by the USA... with maybe a little assistance from the Brits.

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      • KholatKhult
        3 years ago

        It was genuine, I think this is the first time I’ve heard about this.
        That’s just nuts. I kinda hope it’s just a poor joke that’s gone too far. I mean, we have holocaust survivors and descendants of holocaust survivors living here, and I assume they live all over the world too.

        How could it even be faked?

        It isn’t considered ancient history, there’s too many people who were personally effected for it to just be made up. It’s not like tales of mythical beasts, it’s an event that happened less than a hundred years ago. Crazy...

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        • Boojum
          3 years ago

          It is bonkers, and yet it's not an uncommon delusion.

          Survey results are often questionable, but for what it's worth, a survey in the UK last year found that 5% of Brits (2.6 million people) don't believe the holocaust happened at all, and another 8% think the numbers killed have been exaggerated.

          I'm sure some of those people are neo-fascists, and there will also be some who have a crap level of historical knowledge and others who simply can't cope with the idea that people could behave that way. But covert antisemitism is a very real thing in the UK, and that attitude is found not only on the political right and amongst older people who grew up in more generally bigoted times, but also in young people on the political left who condemn or at least view with great suspicion all Jews because of what the Israeli government has done and is doing to the Palestinians.

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          • happypill
            3 years ago

            One does not forget the people who do not deny the Holocaust, but accuse the victorious powers of having reproduced the events in a different way, in order to damage the reputation of the participating countries in the long term and thus counteract a resurgence.
            These people also often ask how long Israel has existed, and some of the most level-headed among them have already been in a concentration camp and talked to Holocaust victims who have told completely different stories.

            I have had experience in one of these countries and I must say that I am not at all surprised that there are people who have their doubts. I wouldn't entirely doubt the Holocaust, but there are indications that make you think about it. Hope you don't misunderstand me the negative way.

            It's like the shootings in Hanau. Even the victims say the media is lying. It's only being swept under the table again because people prefer to believe that a lonely Central European man suffered from a psychosis and killed a few people on his own.

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            • SmokeEverything
              3 years ago

              Outside of the holocaust argument, if you have to make questioning a story illegal you're hiding something. WWII had a load of shady shit.

              Lots of american corporate interests at the time helped hitler out though, it's not like he came up with a bunch of metal and machinery out of nowhere.

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          • SmokeEverything
            3 years ago

            American banking interest's blatant financing of hitler's rise to power is definitely a WWII fact that gets forgotten though.

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