Everything I had said is true. Those people all took these traditions very seriously.
It seems to me that you have bought into this corporate-religious tradition, hook, line and sinker. You might even continue to teach children and others to buy into this nonsense.
I have no qualms if you wish to celebrate the Notthern Hemispheric Winter Solstice or the Southern Hemispheric Summer Solstice at the correct time (you can easily look this up). Same goes for New Years (which is really a meaningless date because of an error by Pope Gregory XIII).
I also have no qualms, should you wish to celebrate the birth of Jesus of Nazareth, but to the best of our knowledge, this date is probably Sept.15th by the Gregorian Calendar.
Perhaps you should not speak of serious issues in a haphazard way in future. We should all strive to become more knowledgeable on such things. These so-called traditions that you speak of, are perpetuated by persons like you. These practices contribute to an unsustainable future, which will cause harm to everyone. This should not be taken lightly.
It's a just a holiday. It's not some Christian conspiracy to convert "heretics destined for hell" to good, God fearing people.
I cannot tell if you are trolling.
You are incorrect. It is not a holy day. There are no important religious figures that were born or died on Dec. 25th. There were several religious or religiously based events on this day, but none of them had much to do with Jesus of Nazareth, except that some of them might have believed in his teachings, but that these would have already been twisted and corrupted.
It is a conspiracy by some corporations to make people spend money on sometimes useless items and products that are often detrimental to a persons health and / or the health of the planet.
It is also a conspiracy by some religious organizations to make people believe in things that are simply not true.
Do you actually believe that Jesus of Nazareth will rise from the dead, and will assume the throne as King of the Roman Province of Judaea, smeared in oil? Because that is what you just said.
Who is this deity that you speak of?
Where exactly is this netherworld that you speak of?
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Post Script: I am neither a "troll", nor am I "trolling". These are all very important and pertinent issues. Please answer the questions that I have asked.
No I don't believe that because I am not Christian.
I just said it was a holiday. I did not mention anything about Jesus rising in oil and assuming the throne of anything. The deity YOU speak of is Jesus H. Christ.
I don't know where the netherworld is. Maybe you can ask God when you die.
I did not mention anywhere in my post that it was a "holy day". It's just a holiday, incorrect or not, that has been ingrained into our culture that is now tradition.
So you continue to support things you don't believe in, by repeating these willy-nilly, without understanding what they mean. At the same time, you are dividing yourself from some religious people and dividing them from other people who are religious or who are not religious.
Why are you creating division in society?
Holiday means Holy Day.
Holiday = Holy Day, understand?
Please use different terminology, especially if you don't believe in it (eg. vacation, celebration, etc,)
But that IS what you just said, and you repeated it again and again, and twisted, corrupted and distorted it further. Jesus of Nazareth (more properly, Jesua) did not have a middle name or surname. Many people would find your language offensive. Why are you offending people?
Jesus of Nazareth was a real person, and not a deity. I said no such thing.
You did mention Jesus of Nazareth rising from the dead, and becoming a King of the Roman Province of Judaea, smeared in oil, because that is what the surname that you affixed to him means.
Once again, you have used the generic Anglo-Germanic term for a deity. You did not answer my question. Who or what is this deity that you speak of?
I, at no time, stated that I believe or disbelieve in this deity. Please do not draw incorrect conclusions, of things that you do not know.
I may not believe in Christianity, but I do believe in the right of religious freedom. I am not creating a division in society. I doubt that what I said on a small website like this will cause large changes in society. If you are trying to "heal" those divisions (that I have yet to see) caused by ONE holiday, I think you should get off of this website and actually start healing society.
My "Jesus H. Christ" remark was a joke, but as charli.m said, "I forgot you don't have a sense of humor."
Christmas - excited, or full of hatred?
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I was taking the piss, dude. You take things too seriously.
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Everything I had said is true. Those people all took these traditions very seriously.
It seems to me that you have bought into this corporate-religious tradition, hook, line and sinker. You might even continue to teach children and others to buy into this nonsense.
I have no qualms if you wish to celebrate the Notthern Hemispheric Winter Solstice or the Southern Hemispheric Summer Solstice at the correct time (you can easily look this up). Same goes for New Years (which is really a meaningless date because of an error by Pope Gregory XIII).
I also have no qualms, should you wish to celebrate the birth of Jesus of Nazareth, but to the best of our knowledge, this date is probably Sept.15th by the Gregorian Calendar.
Perhaps you should not speak of serious issues in a haphazard way in future. We should all strive to become more knowledgeable on such things. These so-called traditions that you speak of, are perpetuated by persons like you. These practices contribute to an unsustainable future, which will cause harm to everyone. This should not be taken lightly.
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Sigh.
It's a just a holiday. It's not some Christian conspiracy to convert "heretics destined for hell" to good, God fearing people.
I cannot tell if you are trolling.
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You are incorrect. It is not a holy day. There are no important religious figures that were born or died on Dec. 25th. There were several religious or religiously based events on this day, but none of them had much to do with Jesus of Nazareth, except that some of them might have believed in his teachings, but that these would have already been twisted and corrupted.
It is a conspiracy by some corporations to make people spend money on sometimes useless items and products that are often detrimental to a persons health and / or the health of the planet.
It is also a conspiracy by some religious organizations to make people believe in things that are simply not true.
Do you actually believe that Jesus of Nazareth will rise from the dead, and will assume the throne as King of the Roman Province of Judaea, smeared in oil? Because that is what you just said.
Who is this deity that you speak of?
Where exactly is this netherworld that you speak of?
Signed,
suckonthis9
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No I don't believe that because I am not Christian.
I just said it was a holiday. I did not mention anything about Jesus rising in oil and assuming the throne of anything. The deity YOU speak of is Jesus H. Christ.
I don't know where the netherworld is. Maybe you can ask God when you die.
I did not mention anywhere in my post that it was a "holy day". It's just a holiday, incorrect or not, that has been ingrained into our culture that is now tradition.
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So you continue to support things you don't believe in, by repeating these willy-nilly, without understanding what they mean. At the same time, you are dividing yourself from some religious people and dividing them from other people who are religious or who are not religious.
Why are you creating division in society?
Holiday means Holy Day.
Holiday = Holy Day, understand?
Please use different terminology, especially if you don't believe in it (eg. vacation, celebration, etc,)
But that IS what you just said, and you repeated it again and again, and twisted, corrupted and distorted it further. Jesus of Nazareth (more properly, Jesua) did not have a middle name or surname. Many people would find your language offensive. Why are you offending people?
Jesus of Nazareth was a real person, and not a deity. I said no such thing.
You did mention Jesus of Nazareth rising from the dead, and becoming a King of the Roman Province of Judaea, smeared in oil, because that is what the surname that you affixed to him means.
Once again, you have used the generic Anglo-Germanic term for a deity. You did not answer my question. Who or what is this deity that you speak of?
I, at no time, stated that I believe or disbelieve in this deity. Please do not draw incorrect conclusions, of things that you do not know.
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I may not believe in Christianity, but I do believe in the right of religious freedom. I am not creating a division in society. I doubt that what I said on a small website like this will cause large changes in society. If you are trying to "heal" those divisions (that I have yet to see) caused by ONE holiday, I think you should get off of this website and actually start healing society.
My "Jesus H. Christ" remark was a joke, but as charli.m said, "I forgot you don't have a sense of humor."
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How does it totally fail to come to your attention that YOU are the one creating these so called 'divisions in society', at least on this site?
They have their beliefs, you have yours. You let them believe in their imaginary friends, they'll let you believe in yours.
You're either trolling or a total fruitcake. Or both.