Christmas - excited, or full of hatred?

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  • Why are you celebrating the birth of a man who lived about 2,000 years ago, on the incorrect date?

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    • Because it's a tradition.

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      • It is true that many cultures traditionally celebrated the Winter Solstice in the Northern Hemisphere, in many different ways. It is also true that several religious organizations (principally the church in Rome) usurped, corrupted and distorted these traditions. It is also true that more recently, several corporations (notably Coca-Cola Inc., others followed later), also usurped, corrupted and distorted these traditions.
        I'm all for tradition. Perhaps we should bring back and celebrate the tradition of Nicholas of Myra. He was best known for being the patron of prostitutes and sailors, if you know what I mean. We could also celebrate the Austrian tradition of this person and season, and run around town, beating children.
        Perhaps, we could also revive other traditions, such as throwing beautiful young virgin females into volcanoes in order to appease the deities. We could also reinstate the tradition of enslaving persons from several different tribes and using them for forced labour and sometimes sexual gratification.

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        • I was taking the piss, dude. You take things too seriously.

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          • Everything I had said is true. Those people all took these traditions very seriously.
            It seems to me that you have bought into this corporate-religious tradition, hook, line and sinker. You might even continue to teach children and others to buy into this nonsense.
            I have no qualms if you wish to celebrate the Notthern Hemispheric Winter Solstice or the Southern Hemispheric Summer Solstice at the correct time (you can easily look this up). Same goes for New Years (which is really a meaningless date because of an error by Pope Gregory XIII).
            I also have no qualms, should you wish to celebrate the birth of Jesus of Nazareth, but to the best of our knowledge, this date is probably Sept.15th by the Gregorian Calendar.
            Perhaps you should not speak of serious issues in a haphazard way in future. We should all strive to become more knowledgeable on such things. These so-called traditions that you speak of, are perpetuated by persons like you. These practices contribute to an unsustainable future, which will cause harm to everyone. This should not be taken lightly.

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            • Sigh.

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            • It's a just a holiday. It's not some Christian conspiracy to convert "heretics destined for hell" to good, God fearing people.
              I cannot tell if you are trolling.

              Signed,
              Knight Nigel Wellington XXI

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              • You are incorrect. It is not a holy day. There are no important religious figures that were born or died on Dec. 25th. There were several religious or religiously based events on this day, but none of them had much to do with Jesus of Nazareth, except that some of them might have believed in his teachings, but that these would have already been twisted and corrupted.
                It is a conspiracy by some corporations to make people spend money on sometimes useless items and products that are often detrimental to a persons health and / or the health of the planet.
                It is also a conspiracy by some religious organizations to make people believe in things that are simply not true.
                Do you actually believe that Jesus of Nazareth will rise from the dead, and will assume the throne as King of the Roman Province of Judaea, smeared in oil? Because that is what you just said.
                Who is this deity that you speak of?
                Where exactly is this netherworld that you speak of?

                Signed,
                suckonthis9

                Post Script: I am neither a "troll", nor am I "trolling". These are all very important and pertinent issues. Please answer the questions that I have asked.

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